AAC is P6 and I am king of the world. One statement is just as true as the other. Now...everyone walk two paces behind me....

(05-19-2017 02:11 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 02:07 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Any reason to expect anything from the divisions other than Mobile and everyone west of that and Troy and everyone east of that?

Makes the most sense but if USA & Troy are to have a permanent cross division game I think they should assign everyone a permanent cross division rival so that it will make scheduling easier.

Troy - USA
GS - ULL
GSU - Texas ST
CCU - ULM
App - stAte

I fully support this.

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt.

What does the AAC do for the SBC or vice versa? I truly don't understand this statement.

(05-19-2017 03:17 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt.

What does the AAC do for the SBC or vice versa? I truly don't understand this statement.

What he's saying is that the SBC would benefit much more because of boosting a teams SOS and conference strength..whereas, it would lower the AAC teams SOS...at least, I think that's what his theory is

(05-19-2017 04:43 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 03:17 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt.

What does the AAC do for the SBC or vice versa? I truly don't understand this statement.

What he's saying is that the SBC would benefit much more because of boosting a teams SOS and conference strength..whereas, it would lower the AAC teams SOS...at least, I think that's what his theory is

Could be. OTOH, he may be alluding to the fact AAC teams are easy W's in the bowls and help leagues such as the Belt to earn more CFP money?

(05-19-2017 05:04 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 04:43 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 03:17 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt.

What does the AAC do for the SBC or vice versa? I truly don't understand this statement.

What he's saying is that the SBC would benefit much more because of boosting a teams SOS and conference strength..whereas, it would lower the AAC teams SOS...at least, I think that's what his theory is

Could be. OTOH, he may be alluding to the fact AAC teams are easy W's in the bowls and help leagues such as the Belt to earn more CFP money?

Lol... they haven't fared very well against the rest of the "G4", have they? Lol

(05-19-2017 03:13 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 02:11 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 02:07 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Any reason to expect anything from the divisions other than Mobile and everyone west of that and Troy and everyone east of that?

Makes the most sense but if USA & Troy are to have a permanent cross division game I think they should assign everyone a permanent cross division rival so that it will make scheduling easier.

Troy - USA
GS - ULL
GSU - Texas ST
CCU - ULM
App - stAte

I fully support this.

Agreed

(05-19-2017 02:17 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  If I were King Karl...

-Troy/USA (Obvious)

-Georgia State/Texas State (Both teams are 2-2 since their first match up in 2013 and with the exception of 2015 the games have been pretty entertaining between the 'Cats and Panthers)

-Arkansas State/App State (Both gave the other embarrassing losses at the other's home stadiums in their first two meetings and with both finishing as co champs in 2016, I think it further makes a permanent match up all the more intriguing for both fan bases).

-Georgia Southern/La-Lafayette (They've only played one game so far but with both having a boisterous fan base, this has all the potential to turn into a fun rivalry)

-Coastal C/ULM (There had to be some type of "random" match up and that falls to the birds)

Yeah, but Appys win in Jonesboro was a fluke.

(05-19-2017 06:23 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 02:17 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  If I were King Karl...

-Troy/USA (Obvious)

-Georgia State/Texas State (Both teams are 2-2 since their first match up in 2013 and with the exception of 2015 the games have been pretty entertaining between the 'Cats and Panthers)

-Arkansas State/App State (Both gave the other embarrassing losses at the other's home stadiums in their first two meetings and with both finishing as co champs in 2016, I think it further makes a permanent match up all the more intriguing for both fan bases).

-Georgia Southern/La-Lafayette (They've only played one game so far but with both having a boisterous fan base, this has all the potential to turn into a fun rivalry)

-Coastal C/ULM (There had to be some type of "random" match up and that falls to the birds)

Yeah, but Appys win in Jonesboro was a fluke.

Yeah, I know.

In the App at stAte game in 2014, in a 33-minute span from the 7:10 mark of the second quarter until Appalachian took a 37-20 lead with 4:10 left in the game, App outgained stAte 400 to 43.

The fluke was special teams imploding and making the final score closer than it really was.

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

A little honesty will go a long way.

Like there is no such thing as P6.

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

Keep trying brother. As far as the rest of the world is concerned we're all G5. Your marketing is just for you. The rest know the truth.

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

Yes I will agree with you that most college football sports writers list the AAC as the 6th best FBS football conference but all that says is that the AAC is the best non-Autonomous college football conference. Yes when it comes to FBS football the SunBelt is equal to the ACC. Yes the AAC has one 2 NY6 bowls in the last 4 years but after the NY6 bowl games 4 years ago the AAC lost there autobid to automatically sent there conference champion to a NY6 Bowl game. Since then only 1 AAC team has made a NY6 Bowl game which is the same number as the MAC and MW.
Yes i will agree that the AAC has the 6th best attendance in FBS, and that the AAC has the 6th best TV contract in FBS.
But when it comes to FBS football the gap between the top 5 conferences and the 6th best conference (AAC) is over 300% larger than the difference between the 6th best FBS conference and the 10th best FBS conference.

(05-19-2017 09:18 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

Yes I will agree with you that most college football sports writers list the AAC as the 6th best FBS football conference but all that says is that the AAC is the best non-Autonomous college football conference. Yes when it comes to FBS football the SunBelt is equal to the ACC. Yes the AAC has one 2 NY6 bowls in the last 4 years but after the NY6 bowl games 4 years ago the AAC lost there autobid to automatically sent there conference champion to a NY6 Bowl game. Since then only 1 AAC team has made a NY6 Bowl game which is the same number as the MAC and MW.
Yes i will agree that the AAC has the 6th best attendance in FBS, and that the AAC has the 6th best TV contract in FBS.
But when it comes to FBS football the gap between the top 5 conferences and the 6th best conference (AAC) is over 300% larger than the difference between the 6th best FBS conference and the 10th best FBS conference.

So what he said is what I said. All your posturing is for your own benefit. Sure, you may have more resources than the rest of the G5, but you're still G5. Stings worse when it's true, doesn't it?

(05-19-2017 09:28 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:18 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

Yes I will agree with you that most college football sports writers list the AAC as the 6th best FBS football conference but all that says is that the AAC is the best non-Autonomous college football conference. Yes when it comes to FBS football the SunBelt is equal to the ACC. Yes the AAC has one 2 NY6 bowls in the last 4 years but after the NY6 bowl games 4 years ago the AAC lost there autobid to automatically sent there conference champion to a NY6 Bowl game. Since then only 1 AAC team has made a NY6 Bowl game which is the same number as the MAC and MW.
Yes i will agree that the AAC has the 6th best attendance in FBS, and that the AAC has the 6th best TV contract in FBS.
But when it comes to FBS football the gap between the top 5 conferences and the 6th best conference (AAC) is over 300% larger than the difference between the 6th best FBS conference and the 10th best FBS conference.

So what he said is what I said. All your posturing is for your own benefit. Sure, you may have more resources than the rest of the G5, but you're still G5. Stings worse when it's true, doesn't it?

That it does.

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

#6 and being P6 aren't the same thing.
The first just denotes spot in quality. The second denotes special status in CFP access and revenue.

(05-19-2017 09:18 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:46 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:36 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 01:19 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  From the Horses Mouth....."There is NO Power 6."

Sun Belt needs AAC more than AAC needs Sun Belt. Of course Sun Belt Commish is going to be upset that AAC is trying to campaign for a different designation. AAC has no incentive to set its oars in the waters with the other 4.

See here's the thing schools (and fans of schools) in the so called P5 see the American and the Sun Belt and all of the other G5 conferences as being on the same level which is below them. Ask a casual fan of Clemson football about playing Temple, LA Tech, Bowling Green or Arkansas St and you probably get the same response...who?

I understand the American wants to be seen as on the same level as the P5 but Karl's response is the one we all should be using which is there is no P5 only FBS because in reality we are all on the same level they just have more resources.

If you are honest with yourself, you know in your heart of hearts that this is not true. Every, and I mean EVERY article ever written at this time, lists the AAC as the #6 conference out there. I am NOT saying the AAC has achieved it's Power 6 status yet...it hasn't. But there is not one person on the planet who believes the AAC and Sun Belt are pure equals. In every single measure the AAC is better. Let's look at some real quick. The AAC has won 2 NY6 bowls in 4 years and a men's national championship in basketball. The AAC has much larger fan bases. The AAC has a much better TV contract. I could go on, but I won't bother. I am OK with playing the Sun Belt in bowls...y'all could easily be the #7 or 8 conference, but let's not get crazy here. A little honesty will go a long way.

Yes I will agree with you that most college football sports writers list the AAC as the 6th best FBS football conference but all that says is that the AAC is the best non-Autonomous college football conference. Yes when it comes to FBS football the SunBelt is equal to the ACC. Yes the AAC has one 2 NY6 bowls in the last 4 years but after the NY6 bowl games 4 years ago the AAC lost there autobid to automatically sent there conference champion to a NY6 Bowl game. Since then only 1 AAC team has made a NY6 Bowl game which is the same number as the MAC and MW.
Yes i will agree that the AAC has the 6th best attendance in FBS, and that the AAC has the 6th best TV contract in FBS.
But when it comes to FBS football the gap between the top 5 conferences and the 6th best conference (AAC) is over 300% larger than the difference between the 6th best FBS conference and the 10th best FBS conference.

It's like a guy with $100 million in Omaha sneering to a guy with $90 million that the $90 million guy isn't one of the two richest people in town and declaring he is a financial peer to Warren Buffet and his $73 billion.

Basically the AAC prefers to be called the smallest giant instead of the tallest dwarf even though there is no difference in height/money.

I will say, I would love to see CUSA or SB make the CFP this year. Just to make it four different G5 champs. If not them, routing for MWC to go as the second G5 conference to return. :)

(05-19-2017 06:31 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  In the App at stAte game in 2014, in a 33-minute span from the 7:10 mark of the second quarter until Appalachian took a 37-20 lead with 4:10 left in the game, App outgained stAte 400 to 43.

The fluke was special teams imploding and making the final score closer than it really was.

And we dropped a ball late that would have probably won it for us.

I remember it well, I started to walk out, and ended up freezing right next to the gate because we were rallying and it would be bad luck to return to my seats and bad luck to leave.