(05-17-2017 10:49 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  but if all that happens to Trump is that he steps down, progressives will hail it as "thwarting Armageddon".


Please Mr. Trump, do the right thing: step down. Cut a deal so you can avoid charges, and step down.

you and your crazy ilk need help ...

LOST CAUSE

(05-17-2017 07:51 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 06:50 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Even if Trump were 100% guilty and the memo proved it he'd be pardoned immediately by Pence. Trump is playing chess while his opponents are playing tiddlywinks. I'm more in awe of the master manipulation he's pulling off on both sides everyday.

There is no 8-D underwater quantum chess. There is only Trump. And as the so-called law of the lid states in business, the upper limit of a president’s competence can never be superseded by that of his subordinates. And Trump’s competence is tied directly to his character defects.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...arm-agenda

Oh I think there's plenty of accurate things about Trump's personality and flaws in there, but Trump's greatest strength is the ability to manipulate people to get what he wants. What he's done is brilliant. He's got the left so blindly angry at him that they are not even attempting to remain consistent on anything. Trump could come out tomorrow and say he supports planned parenthood and they'd all take the opposite stance just because Trump supported it. On the other side he's got his supporters to at this point only believe the things that come either directly from him or from a source he approves of. Anything even remotely critical of him is now "fake news" and there's probably no amount of evidence that could change their opinions because they'll believe it was all made up by people out to get him. So he's got the left making complete arses out of themselves and the right willing to not just ignore things he does wrong but believe they are a conspiracy made up by the left. It's amazing to watch if you take a step back.

(05-17-2017 10:54 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 07:51 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 06:50 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Even if Trump were 100% guilty and the memo proved it he'd be pardoned immediately by Pence. Trump is playing chess while his opponents are playing tiddlywinks. I'm more in awe of the master manipulation he's pulling off on both sides everyday.

There is no 8-D underwater quantum chess. There is only Trump. And as the so-called law of the lid states in business, the upper limit of a president’s competence can never be superseded by that of his subordinates. And Trump’s competence is tied directly to his character defects.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...arm-agenda

Oh I think there's plenty of accurate things about Trump's personality and flaws in there, but Trump's greatest strength is the ability to manipulate people to get what he wants. What he's done is brilliant. He's got the left so blindly angry at him that they are not even attempting to remain consistent on anything. Trump could come out tomorrow and say he supports planned parenthood and they'd all take the opposite stance just because Trump supported it. On the other side he's got his supporters to at this point only believe the things that come either directly from him or from a source he approves of. Anything even remotely critical of him is now "fake news" and there's probably no amount of evidence that could change their opinions because they'll believe it was all made up by people out to get him. So he's got the left making complete arses out of themselves and the right willing to not just ignore things he does wrong but believe they are a conspiracy made up by the left. It's amazing to watch if you take a step back.

#measuretwice

#cutonce

(05-17-2017 09:22 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 09:19 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 10:37 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If James Comey testifies that he did in fact have a conversation with the president where the president asked him not to pursue Flynn, then Comey is guilty of a crime for not immediately reporting it to the department of justice.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

So, either the memo doesnt exist, or Comey is going to jail.

Take your pick.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/1...owder.html


#CheckmateMotherf*ckers

Now, about that memo.

So you think there was obstruction of justice?

Right now, there's not even a real memo.

If a real memo exists depicting exactly what the whores at WaPo says it says, then James Comey is going to prison.

So, James Comey will say there was no obstruction of justice. Because if James comey says otherwise, James Comey is going to prison.

I know someone that stated he needed to keep his yammer shut a week ago...he's ****** either way

(05-17-2017 10:54 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Oh I think there's plenty of accurate things about Trump's personality and flaws in there, but Trump's greatest strength is the ability to manipulate people to get what he wants. What he's done is brilliant.

What you say seems like it could be right ... but if you ever watch behind the scenes shots of Trump during the election, where he basically gives the impression that "I can't believe this is working, ho ho!" ... you know he's not at the controls of anything.

The bottom line on Trump: people have given him everything he has. He just gets out of their way.

(05-17-2017 10:49 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Please Mr. Trump, do the right thing: step down. Cut a deal so you can avoid charges, and step down.

Enjoy President Pence.


Trump's a northeastern RINO at best.
Pence is an Indiana conservative true believer.

I'm more than fine with a President Pence.

(05-17-2017 11:10 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I'm more than fine with a President Pence.

You, sure. MplsBison ... notsomuch ...

No one is going to prison....period.

I do get what you're saying Sica.

But it still doesn't sit right with me, regardless of the pragmatism, for him (Trump) being such a fraud and acting so un-presidential. I doubt that Pence would use a personal Twitter account.

(05-17-2017 11:05 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:54 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Oh I think there's plenty of accurate things about Trump's personality and flaws in there, but Trump's greatest strength is the ability to manipulate people to get what he wants. What he's done is brilliant.

What you say seems like it could be right ... but if you ever watch behind the scenes shots of Trump during the election, where he basically gives the impression that "I can't believe this is working, ho ho!" ... you know he's not at the controls of anything.

The bottom line on Trump: people have given him everything he has. He just gets out of their way.

I don't think he's at the controls of any single policy decisions, but he is working and manipulating both sides at a level that is beautiful to watch. He's so good at it that neither side realizes it, much like a truly great message board troll who is so good at it that people don't even realize he's doing it. If the left doesn't stop making mountains out of every single mole hill he creates (some I believe are intentional and some not) he's going to get a second term.

(05-17-2017 10:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  David Frum, a Republican and former GWB speech writer speculated last night that the Nunes midnight run to the white house was about the WH investigating the FBI more than the crap he pulled with the house committee. Had not heard this before, but he must have some sources telling him this as I don't see him just making this up.

Stay tuned.

But I find it hilarious that the conts seem wanting to jail the guy reporting the possible crime(s) more than the one who actually may have done it. You can't make this stuff up. This is pretty fun watching the right twist themselves into knots trying to defend the indefensible.

I suggest you follow the No Bull path and get out from in front of the careening train now before it's too late. This is not going to end well for orange ape.

I was lead to believe that regressives did not allow the word ape and a human be used in the same sentence.

(05-17-2017 11:20 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's so good at it that neither side realizes it

More like: he's so "good" at it, that even he doesn't realize it.

Again, I just don't see how you're justifying giving him any kind of credit for being purposeful.


How can you possible watch the TV interview where he inadvertently, knee-jerk admits that he was responsible for firing Comey, because Comey was investigating him, and conclude that is a master stroke of genius??? That was literally the only thing he couldn't say.

Step back from your own conspiracy theories for a moment and allow the possibility that Trump doesn't think he did anything worth being investigated for....

I'm not saying he did or didn't... I'm saying he is actually convinced 100% that he didn't.

If you were someone's boss and they were spending all sorts of resources on something that you KNEW to be 'untrue', despite your admonitions, wouldn't you fire that person? Of course you would.

You guys act like he fired someone because he was getting close... which makes no legal or logical sense whatsoever... and whatever you think of Trump, he's obviously not kept himself out of jail over the decades or been able to hide his Russia dealings from the FBI, CIA, Press and Democrats because he's 'stupid'....
and ignore the very real probability that he fired him because he felt (his opinion) he was either acting politically OR engaging in pointless investigations for other 'personal' reasons.

That sort of process which is BY FAR the most likely scenario has never once crossed any of your minds (at least not in public).

(05-17-2017 11:23 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:20 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  He's so good at it that neither side realizes it

More like: he's so "good" at it, that even he doesn't realize it.

Again, I just don't see how you're justifying giving him any kind of credit for being purposeful.


How can you possible watch the TV interview where he inadvertently, knee-jerk admits that he was responsible for firing Comey, because Comey was investigating him, and conclude that is a master stroke of genius??? That was literally the only thing he couldn't say.

I agree. What Trump has been doing isn't brilliant as much as it is being in a bubble were he has always been able to do whatever he wants and cannot fathom any consequences for his actions.

You don't make comments like " I just grab them by the *****" unless you have grown up getting whatever you want for your entire life.

(05-17-2017 11:07 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:49 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Please Mr. Trump, do the right thing: step down. Cut a deal so you can avoid charges, and step down.

Enjoy President Pence.


Trump's a northeastern RINO at best.
Pence is an Indiana conservative true believer.

At this point, it's about country. We can't have a president who doesn't know the basics. What he did, reportedly to Israel with his handing over sensitive intel to the Russians, could have ramifications for years.

(05-17-2017 11:16 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  No one is going to prison....period.

Right.

Comey won't because he's already out of office and they're not going to prosecute him for not "immediately" reporting trump's malfeasance even if he didn't.

And Trump will quit before he would ever be impeached. Another lie from him in that he never settles and always wins.

(05-17-2017 11:32 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Step back from your own conspiracy theories for a moment and allow the possibility that Trump doesn't think he did anything worth being investigated for....

I'm not saying he did or didn't... I'm saying he is actually convinced 100% that he didn't.

If you were someone's boss and they were spending all sorts of resources on something that you KNEW to be 'untrue', despite your admonitions, wouldn't you fire that person? Of course you would.

You guys act like he fired someone because he was getting close... which makes no legal or logical sense whatsoever... and whatever you think of Trump, he's obviously not kept himself out of jail over the decades or been able to hide his Russia dealings from the FBI, CIA, Press and Democrats because he's 'stupid'....
and ignore the very real probability that he fired him because he felt (his opinion) he was either acting politically OR engaging in pointless investigations for other 'personal' reasons.

That sort of process which is BY FAR the most likely scenario has never once crossed any of your minds (at least not in public).

If we were psychiatrists sitting around a room, trying to hypothesize why Trump might be so lax about confessing that he fired Comey, because Comey was investigating him, then I think your hypothesis makes perfect sense.

That could the exact truth of Trump's mindset on the matter: Trump thought that since the Russia investigation was "made-up", he was in the right to fire Comey for participating in it, and that's the end of it.


But that's not the end of it. To think so was a fatal mistake. What he did was illegal.

(05-17-2017 07:21 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 12:36 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  If Comey goes to prison...so does Trump.

And so does Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, John Podesta and many more!

Ad a massive round up of protesters on film destroying property. Could be the largest roundup in history

(05-17-2017 11:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:07 AM)The Sicatoka Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 10:49 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Please Mr. Trump, do the right thing: step down. Cut a deal so you can avoid charges, and step down.

Enjoy President Pence.


Trump's a northeastern RINO at best.
Pence is an Indiana conservative true believer.

At this point, it's about country.

and for your team, that country just happens to be Russia.