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Quote:How many assistants, recruiters and other staff does each school employ? CBS Sports obtained that information from the NCAA, and I've included the ACC, SEC and Big Ten here:

ACC Staff
Ga Tech 19
Pitt 24
Wake Forest 25
Boston College 26
Va Tech 26
Virginia 28
Miami 29
Duke 30
UNC 31
NC State 32
Louisville 33
FSU 33
Clemson 35
Syracuse 37

SEC Staff
Tennessee 18
Vanderbilt 25
Kentucky 26
LSU 27
Alabama 31
Missouri 31
Ole Miss 31
Mississippi St 32
Florida 33
S Carolina 34
Texas AM 34
Arkansas 36
Auburn 41
Georgia 42

B1G Staff
Minnesota 22
Wisconsin 28
Penn State 28
Nebraska 29
Indiana 32
Purdue 32
Iowa 32
Northwestern 32
Ohio State 32
Mich State 33
Illinois 34
Rutgers 34
Maryland 35
Michigan 40

source: http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...-Sizes.pdf

OBSERVATIONS: No surprise that Ga Tech is trying to go cheap, but shocked that Syracuse had so many on staff!

A few schools do seem to be abusing this - notably Michigan, which seems to be abusing every rule they can these days.

Look for the NCAA to put a cap on the number of staff for football in the near future - it will probably be in the high 30's, though.

I've been told already that these numbers are way short of reality and that the true numbers may be DOUBLE or TRIPLE what's being reported here.
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RE: Coaching Staff Sizes
(05-16-2017 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Coaching Staff sizes

Quote:How many assistants, recruiters and other staff does each school employ? CBS Sports obtained that information from the NCAA, and I've included the ACC, SEC and Big Ten here:

ACC Staff
Ga Tech 19
Pitt 24
Wake Forest 25
Boston College 26
Va Tech 26
Virginia 28
Miami 29
Duke 30
UNC 31
NC State 32
Louisville 33
FSU 33
Clemson 35
Syracuse 37

SEC Staff
Tennessee 18
Vanderbilt 25
Kentucky 26
LSU 27
Alabama 31
Missouri 31
Ole Miss 31
Mississippi St 32
Florida 33
S Carolina 34
Texas AM 34
Arkansas 36
Auburn 41
Georgia 42

B1G Staff
Minnesota 22
Wisconsin 28
Penn State 28
Nebraska 29
Indiana 32
Purdue 32
Iowa 32
Northwestern 32
Ohio State 32
Mich State 33
Illinois 34
Rutgers 34
Maryland 35
Michigan 40

source: http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...-Sizes.pdf

OBSERVATIONS: No surprise that Ga Tech is trying to go cheap, but shocked that Syracuse had so many on staff!

A few schools do seem to be abusing this - notably Michigan, which seems to be abusing every rule they can these days.

Look for the NCAA to put a cap on the number of staff for football in the near future - it will probably be in the high 30's, though.

I've been told already that these numbers are way short of reality and that the true numbers may be DOUBLE or TRIPLE what's being reported here.

Syracuse has a larger football staff than Alabama? These numbers are meaningless because the schools aren't reporting their staffs in a uniform way.
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RE: Coaching Staff Sizes
(05-16-2017 02:14 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Coaching Staff sizes

Quote:How many assistants, recruiters and other staff does each school employ? CBS Sports obtained that information from the NCAA, and I've included the ACC, SEC and Big Ten here:

ACC Staff
Ga Tech 19
Pitt 24
Wake Forest 25
Boston College 26
Va Tech 26
Virginia 28
Miami 29
Duke 30
UNC 31
NC State 32
Louisville 33
FSU 33
Clemson 35
Syracuse 37

SEC Staff
Tennessee 18
Vanderbilt 25
Kentucky 26
LSU 27
Alabama 31
Missouri 31
Ole Miss 31
Mississippi St 32
Florida 33
S Carolina 34
Texas AM 34
Arkansas 36
Auburn 41
Georgia 42

B1G Staff
Minnesota 22
Wisconsin 28
Penn State 28
Nebraska 29
Indiana 32
Purdue 32
Iowa 32
Northwestern 32
Ohio State 32
Mich State 33
Illinois 34
Rutgers 34
Maryland 35
Michigan 40

source: http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...-Sizes.pdf

OBSERVATIONS: No surprise that Ga Tech is trying to go cheap, but shocked that Syracuse had so many on staff!

A few schools do seem to be abusing this - notably Michigan, which seems to be abusing every rule they can these days.

Look for the NCAA to put a cap on the number of staff for football in the near future - it will probably be in the high 30's, though.

I've been told already that these numbers are way short of reality and that the true numbers may be DOUBLE or TRIPLE what's being reported here.

Syracuse has a larger football staff than Alabama? These numbers are meaningless because the schools aren't reporting their staffs in a uniform way.

Your post has to be correct about the programs not reporting staffs in a uniform way. I dont believe for a second that Syracuse coaching staff is that large. I specifically remember reading an article where coach Dino Babers commented specifically about the large size of Clemson's coaching staff. I think it was FSU that he also mentioned as having a lot of coaches. He wanted more coaches and they went out and hired 2 more coaches this off season. So if SU had more coaches than Clemson or FSU, the coach certainly would not have been impressed at the large number of coaches that those 2 programs had.
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RE: Coaching Staff Sizes
(05-16-2017 02:27 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 02:14 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Coaching Staff sizes

Quote:How many assistants, recruiters and other staff does each school employ? CBS Sports obtained that information from the NCAA, and I've included the ACC, SEC and Big Ten here:

ACC Staff
Ga Tech 19
Pitt 24
Wake Forest 25
Boston College 26
Va Tech 26
Virginia 28
Miami 29
Duke 30
UNC 31
NC State 32
Louisville 33
FSU 33
Clemson 35
Syracuse 37

SEC Staff
Tennessee 18
Vanderbilt 25
Kentucky 26
LSU 27
Alabama 31
Missouri 31
Ole Miss 31
Mississippi St 32
Florida 33
S Carolina 34
Texas AM 34
Arkansas 36
Auburn 41
Georgia 42

B1G Staff
Minnesota 22
Wisconsin 28
Penn State 28
Nebraska 29
Indiana 32
Purdue 32
Iowa 32
Northwestern 32
Ohio State 32
Mich State 33
Illinois 34
Rutgers 34
Maryland 35
Michigan 40

source: http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...-Sizes.pdf

OBSERVATIONS: No surprise that Ga Tech is trying to go cheap, but shocked that Syracuse had so many on staff!

A few schools do seem to be abusing this - notably Michigan, which seems to be abusing every rule they can these days.

Look for the NCAA to put a cap on the number of staff for football in the near future - it will probably be in the high 30's, though.

I've been told already that these numbers are way short of reality and that the true numbers may be DOUBLE or TRIPLE what's being reported here.

Syracuse has a larger football staff than Alabama? These numbers are meaningless because the schools aren't reporting their staffs in a uniform way.

Your post has to be correct about the programs not reporting staffs in a uniform way. I dont believe for a second that Syracuse coaching staff is that large. I specifically remember reading an article where coach Dino Babers commented specifically about the large size of Clemson's coaching staff. I think it was FSU that he also mentioned as having a lot of coaches. He wanted more coaches and they went out and hired 2 more coaches this off season. So if SU had more coaches than Clemson or FSU, the coach certainly would not have been impressed at the large number of coaches that those 2 programs had.

Coaching staff size is regulated by the NCAA. Non-coaching staff size isn't. The coaching staffs aren't growing. It's the non-coaching staffs that are exploding.
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RE: Coaching Staff Sizes
(05-16-2017 03:35 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 02:27 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 02:14 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 01:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Coaching Staff sizes

Quote:How many assistants, recruiters and other staff does each school employ? CBS Sports obtained that information from the NCAA, and I've included the ACC, SEC and Big Ten here:

ACC Staff
Ga Tech 19
Pitt 24
Wake Forest 25
Boston College 26
Va Tech 26
Virginia 28
Miami 29
Duke 30
UNC 31
NC State 32
Louisville 33
FSU 33
Clemson 35
Syracuse 37

SEC Staff
Tennessee 18
Vanderbilt 25
Kentucky 26
LSU 27
Alabama 31
Missouri 31
Ole Miss 31
Mississippi St 32
Florida 33
S Carolina 34
Texas AM 34
Arkansas 36
Auburn 41
Georgia 42

B1G Staff
Minnesota 22
Wisconsin 28
Penn State 28
Nebraska 29
Indiana 32
Purdue 32
Iowa 32
Northwestern 32
Ohio State 32
Mich State 33
Illinois 34
Rutgers 34
Maryland 35
Michigan 40

source: http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...-Sizes.pdf

OBSERVATIONS: No surprise that Ga Tech is trying to go cheap, but shocked that Syracuse had so many on staff!

A few schools do seem to be abusing this - notably Michigan, which seems to be abusing every rule they can these days.

Look for the NCAA to put a cap on the number of staff for football in the near future - it will probably be in the high 30's, though.

I've been told already that these numbers are way short of reality and that the true numbers may be DOUBLE or TRIPLE what's being reported here.

Syracuse has a larger football staff than Alabama? These numbers are meaningless because the schools aren't reporting their staffs in a uniform way.

Your post has to be correct about the programs not reporting staffs in a uniform way. I dont believe for a second that Syracuse coaching staff is that large. I specifically remember reading an article where coach Dino Babers commented specifically about the large size of Clemson's coaching staff. I think it was FSU that he also mentioned as having a lot of coaches. He wanted more coaches and they went out and hired 2 more coaches this off season. So if SU had more coaches than Clemson or FSU, the coach certainly would not have been impressed at the large number of coaches that those 2 programs had.

Coaching staff size is regulated by the NCAA. Non-coaching staff size isn't. The coaching staffs aren't growing. It's the non-coaching staffs that are exploding.



Correct! And the NCAA has zero control.
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http://theclemsoninsider.com/2017/05/17/...ort-staff/

Quote:When Dabo Swinney became Clemson’s full-time head coach in 2009, he had only one person working as the program’s support staff. That was former Clemson women’s tennis coach Andy Johnston, who held the same job for Tommy Bowden.

“We have grown a support staff,” Swinney said from the ACC Spring Meetings at the Ritz-Carlton in Amelia Island, Fla. “We have been able to promote from within when we have had opportunities. We have been able to create career paths for coaches, administrators, create positions for former players to come back.

“For me, it has been very good for college football.”

Since those early days, Swinney’s football operations and off-field / recruiting staff has grown substantially over time. Going by last year’s media guide, Clemson has 46 staffers overall on the team, that includes assistant coaches, analysis coaches, graduate assistant coaches, strength and continuing coaches, football operations and off-field / recruiting staff.

Once a job that was run by one man now has more than 20 people running the everyday operations of the Clemson football program.

Quote:Swinney doesn’t understand why it is even being brought up.

“At the end of the day, the rules are who can coach on the field and in the weight room,” he said. “That is what everybody should stick to. At the end of the day, you are never going to run Nike the same as you do Mom & Pop shoe shop. There is always going to be differences from that standpoint. When you have a 100,000 seat stadium vs. 30,000 seat stadium, there are just differences that come with that. Too each his own in that regard.”

It comes down to what the individual schools can and / or want to invest in their programs. Eight years ago, when he had one person on his support staff, Swinney went to Clemson with his vision for the program, which included growing his support staff. Eight years later he was hoisting the College Football Playoff National Championship Trophy on a stage in Tampa, Fla.

“Obviously, we have grown our program in eight years, but we have always taken what we have had and made the best of it. We have not always been where we are right now,” Swinney said.
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