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With another discussion of ND joining the ACC the fallout of that move would change the landscape of college football. Mike Valenti made good points yesterday that are hard to refute: The addition of a 15th ACC team would preclude bringing on a 16th team such as UConn. From here the dominoes may begin to fall. 1 mega conference would begin a formation of 4, 16-team conferences. This could set up an 8 team playoff. Should this happen he suggested the B1G make a move for Texas & Oklahoma, this would offset the current B1G east power. The PAC12 & SEC would gut the rest of the Big12.

Where does this leave the group of 5 and independents? The power conferences would be very unlikely to share anything come postseason revenue. As I had suggested to much ridicule the G5 should build their own playoff system. The writing has been on the wall for years. For those who thought we were a few players away, look at the reality of recruiting, pipelines, coaching, TV money and resources. There is a large disparity and a further division of power will drive a wedge. For those who think relegating ourselves to a lesser playoff structure is bad for Western, it may already be happening. I see nothing wrong with more postseason opportunities vs competitive teams.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-804944.html

(05-16-2017 01:13 PM)WMUlaxer97 Wrote:  http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...cc-rumors/

With another discussion of ND joining the ACC the fallout of that move would change the landscape of college football. Mike Valenti made good points yesterday that are hard to refute: The addition of a 15th ACC team would preclude bringing on a 16th team such as UConn. From here the dominoes may begin to fall. 1 mega conference would begin a formation of 4, 16-team conferences. This could set up an 8 team playoff. Should this happen he suggested the B1G make a move for Texas & Oklahoma, this would offset the current B1G east power. The PAC12 & SEC would gut the rest of the Big12.

Where does this leave the group of 5 and independents? The power conferences would be very unlikely to share anything come postseason revenue. As I had suggested to much ridicule the G5 should build their own playoff system. The writing has been on the wall for years. For those who thought we were a few players away, look at the reality of recruiting, pipelines, coaching, TV money and resources. There is a large disparity and a further division of power will drive a wedge. For those who think relegating ourselves to a lesser playoff structure is bad for Western, it may already be happening. I see nothing wrong with more postseason opportunities vs competitive teams.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-804944.html

Interesting article.

Thanks for posting.

D-I men's basketball and football are giant money snowballs rolling recklessly down a hill, getting larger and larger, sucking-up anything in their way.

But like a runaway snowball, they can't stop themselves...and won't end well. Can't possibly end well.

That day is coming.

Pleased and proud to be a fan of the Mid-American Conference.

Notre Dame is not joining a conference.

(05-16-2017 01:59 PM)bronconick Wrote:  Notre Dame is not joining a conference.

Ok, a statement/prediction. Why wouldn't they join the ACC? Already there for 1/2 conference season and in basketball. For the sake of this discussion then, what if West Virginia & UConn went to the ACC? A 64 team 4 mega conference system and ND would remain independent? I don't think so. They would take the best deal and jump on board. Can't go to B1G that ship already sailed. Play out west with PAC, no. Become 2nd tier SEC? Negative.

Conferences are made by universities looking out for themselves #1. Then, the conferences are looking out for themselves first. No one is going to make a pretty 64 team NCAA football league.

(05-16-2017 10:37 PM)bronconick Wrote:  Conferences are made by universities looking out for themselves #1. Then, the conferences are looking out for themselves first. No one is going to make a pretty 64 team NCAA football league.

If the TV money is enough, they will.

(05-17-2017 11:33 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  

(05-16-2017 10:37 PM)bronconick Wrote:  Conferences are made by universities looking out for themselves #1. Then, the conferences are looking out for themselves first. No one is going to make a pretty 64 team NCAA football league.

If the TV money is enough, they will.

Interesting you bring that up. Obviously the TV revenue is a huge catalyst. This piece was written a year ago and addresses that. We've seen that the big money deals from ESPN have come back to hurt them. gone are the days of picking cable bundle A B or C. People are finding different ways to get their sports content.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ame-051616

(05-17-2017 11:41 AM)WMUlaxer97 Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 11:33 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  [quote='bronconick' pid='14341260' dateline='1494992228']
Conferences are made by universities looking out for themselves #1. Then, the conferences are looking out for themselves first. No one is going to make a pretty 64 team NCAA football league.

If the TV money is enough, they will.

Interesting you bring that up. Obviously the TV revenue is a huge catalyst. This piece was written a year ago and addresses that. We've seen that the big money deals from ESPN have come back to hurt them. gone are the days of picking cable bundle A B or C. People are finding different ways to get their sports content.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ame-051616
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EVERY N.D. football game on N.B.C. I think their t.v. $$$ has been set for a long time.

ND was pressed to join the ACC -- and that Is their conference, but in football they're independent. If they join it in football, it doesn't Necessarily mean they'll get their NBC deal nixed, right? The ACC will have to give them the leeway on that... and with most teams being from the ACC if they join (already they had to make adjustments to play many ACC teams every year already), it helps the ACC in some regard, too.

I think the main thing is ND not wanting to do it due their Schedule.

If they have to play 9 conf-games, then what -- 3 OOC will be: USC, Stanford, UM/MSU/Purdue?

Right now, their OOC schedule is (notice a MAC East team in there):

- Temple, Georgia, @MSU, Miami-OH, USC, Navy, @Stanford

So their OOC schedule would go from 7 to 3. I think that's the Yuge part of it -- not being In the ACC conference in and of itself, where they are in all the other sports + 5-games-a-season in football as it is. That's what's really holding them back, IMO.

They'll be getting a full share of the ACC network when it starts in 2019, despite not being a football member. Why would they join full time?

In what way would ND benefit. Right now there isn't enough need to do it.

I swear I heard that ND is costing themselves money by NOT joining the BIG. They would make more in TV, revenue sharing, etc, than going it alone. But, they would lose a lot of control. I think eventually the $$$ will win out...

It was some gloomy afternoon in 1993 or 94 when the balance tipped in South Bend, and it became more about wrangling and dangling and scheming and angling, and less about football. A great loss for them.

(05-22-2017 08:57 PM)Bronco XXVIII Wrote:  I swear I heard that ND is costing themselves money by NOT joining the BIG. They would make more in TV, revenue sharing, etc, than going it alone. But, they would lose a lot of control. I think eventually the $$$ will win out...

ND schedule would become significantly easier it if were to move to the Pig10.