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RE: Fox gets OSU vs Michigan and other marquee matchups
(05-15-2017 10:28 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  So ESPN gets
2nd pick of Big 10 games (fox)
That does read as if ESPN gets the 2nd pick of games every week, rather than Fox getting first pick of which WEEK it wants to get first pick, then ESPN picking its week to pick first, then Fox, then ESPN, etc.
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(05-16-2017 02:52 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(05-15-2017 10:28 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  So ESPN gets
2nd pick of Big 10 games (fox)
That does read as if ESPN gets the 2nd pick of games every week, rather than Fox getting first pick of which WEEK it wants to get first pick, then ESPN picking its week to pick first, then Fox, then ESPN, etc.

That is definitely not what it is though. FOX pays morr and gets to choose its first week 1st, but ESPN chooses a week they get to pick first after that. Based on what we see so far, my guess is that the order went something like this.

Week of: (they are actually choosing weeks and not games, but are often picking for these specific games)
Ohio State vs. Michigan (FOX)
Penn State vs. Michigan (ESPN)
Ohio State vs. Penn State (FOX)
Ohio State vs Oklahmona (ESPN)
Michigan State vs. Notre Dame (FOX)

Maybe reverse order of ESPNs picks or possible FOX's 2nd two
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RE: Fox gets OSU vs Michigan and other marquee matchups
so lets look at the 2 packages based on these 1st 5 weeks....

Fox gets-
Ohio St/Michigan
Ohio St/Penn St
Michigan St/Notre Dame
Pittsburgh/Penn St
Iowa/Northwestern

ESPN gets
Penn St/Michigan
Ohio St/Oklahoma
Penn St/Iowa
Michigan St/Northwestern
Iowa/Nebraska

ESPN also gets next 1st choice and I would assume would take Michigan/Michigan St. Fox would get Wisconsin/Nebraska.

All in all, the packages are really close.
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RE: Fox gets OSU vs Michigan and other marquee matchups
(05-16-2017 08:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so lets look at the 2 packages based on these 1st 5 weeks....

Fox gets-
Ohio St/Michigan
Ohio St/Penn St
Michigan St/Notre Dame
Pittsburgh/Penn St
Iowa/Northwestern

ESPN gets
Penn St/Michigan
Ohio St/Oklahoma
Penn St/Iowa
Michigan St/Northwestern
Iowa/Nebraska

ESPN also gets next 1st choice and I would assume would take Michigan/Michigan St. Fox would get Wisconsin/Nebraska.

All in all, the packages are really close.

It took me a little time to understand this. At first I thought that Fox had picked Iowa/NW as 1 of their top games, which did not make sense.

Now I realize this is a combination of 1st and 2nd choices for each werk. For example, the week when ESPN picked Mich/PSU as the first choice, Fox was left with Iowa/NW as the 2nd choice that week.
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(05-15-2017 10:30 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  You seem really excited by this

Nothing to get exited about? Read the responses to what I wrote trying to correct me, saying the article is wrong that, "it reads" like ESPN gets it worse than they really did. I hate espn; I'm happy to admit that...they've attempted and almost succeeded in destroying my school by minimizing us with a fake non-official label. (non-BCS, G5) Are you going to bust the ESPN lovers chops too? Are you an espn lover now that TCU is in the espn big boy club?
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we're not trying to correct you. We ARE correcting you. Your chart was wrong, wrong, dead ******* wrong.

ESPN gets this year-
Big Ten- 6 weeks with the #1 choice, 7 weeks with #2 choice
Big 12- #1 choice each week
Pac 12- 50% choices
SEC- #2 game
ACC- all games

far better than your chart was.
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(05-16-2017 08:33 AM)stever20 Wrote:  we're not trying to correct you. We ARE correcting you. Your chart was wrong, wrong, dead ******* wrong.

ESPN gets this year-
Big Ten- 6 weeks with the #1 choice, 7 weeks with #2 choice
Big 12- #1 choice each week
Pac 12- 50% choices
SEC- #2 game
ACC- all games

far better than your chart was.

Ok, you corrected me. I read the article, which is shown to be misleading by all of you, maybe out right wrong. ESPN is King, but I will never never neal to them.
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(05-16-2017 08:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so lets look at the 2 packages based on these 1st 5 weeks....

Fox gets-
Ohio St/Michigan
Ohio St/Penn St
Michigan St/Notre Dame
Pittsburgh/Penn St
Iowa/Northwestern

ESPN gets
Penn St/Michigan
Ohio St/Oklahoma
Penn St/Iowa
Michigan St/Northwestern
Iowa/Nebraska

ESPN also gets next 1st choice and I would assume would take Michigan/Michigan St. Fox would get Wisconsin/Nebraska.

All in all, the packages are really close.

The packages are pretty close. The price difference between the Fox and ESPN packages is largely driven by Fox always getting the Big Ten Championship Game rights and there's quite a bit of value in getting the #1 game pick overall (as Ohio State - Michigan got a rating on par with the CFP semifinals last year).
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(05-16-2017 09:03 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 08:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so lets look at the 2 packages based on these 1st 5 weeks....

Fox gets-
Ohio St/Michigan
Ohio St/Penn St
Michigan St/Notre Dame
Pittsburgh/Penn St
Iowa/Northwestern

ESPN gets
Penn St/Michigan
Ohio St/Oklahoma
Penn St/Iowa
Michigan St/Northwestern
Iowa/Nebraska

ESPN also gets next 1st choice and I would assume would take Michigan/Michigan St. Fox would get Wisconsin/Nebraska.

All in all, the packages are really close.

The packages are pretty close. The price difference between the Fox and ESPN packages is largely driven by Fox always getting the Big Ten Championship Game rights and there's quite a bit of value in getting the #1 game pick overall (as Ohio State - Michigan got a rating on par with the CFP semifinals last year).

The only question with that is would Ohio St/Michigan get that type of rating if the teams aren't in the top 5, and it's a de facto playoff play-in game?

What the chart shows is that it's definitely not a tier 1/tier 2 type of situation. ESPN will be getting good to very good Big Ten games.
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(05-16-2017 09:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 09:03 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 08:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  so lets look at the 2 packages based on these 1st 5 weeks....

Fox gets-
Ohio St/Michigan
Ohio St/Penn St
Michigan St/Notre Dame
Pittsburgh/Penn St
Iowa/Northwestern

ESPN gets
Penn St/Michigan
Ohio St/Oklahoma
Penn St/Iowa
Michigan St/Northwestern
Iowa/Nebraska

ESPN also gets next 1st choice and I would assume would take Michigan/Michigan St. Fox would get Wisconsin/Nebraska.

All in all, the packages are really close.

The packages are pretty close. The price difference between the Fox and ESPN packages is largely driven by Fox always getting the Big Ten Championship Game rights and there's quite a bit of value in getting the #1 game pick overall (as Ohio State - Michigan got a rating on par with the CFP semifinals last year).

The only question with that is would Ohio St/Michigan get that type of rating if the teams aren't in the top 5, and it's a de facto playoff play-in game?

What the chart shows is that it's definitely not a tier 1/tier 2 type of situation. ESPN will be getting good to very good Big Ten games.

Well no, OSU-Michigan won't get that rating every single year, but it's probably the most consistently watched game of any college football rivalry from year-to-year regardless of how they're playing. It has the highest "floor" rating of any game and viewership goes into the stratosphere when both teams are contending, so that's worth a fairly large premium.
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