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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
(05-16-2017 01:23 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 12:32 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 12:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 11:18 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 11:11 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Here is an idea of something they can "try". Splitting the men's and women's tournaments so that the women's tournament no longer holds the conference back. They could also "try" letting the higher seed host until the semifinals, that would generate some fans at games, and would be slightly less bush league than playing BooPlex style in a football practice facility, in a town that doesn't have a home team.

There are a number of things they can "try" that would be less embarrassing, and present a much better chance for success, they just have to give up on this whole two tournaments, one town nonsense.


Do you know what the financials are and how they compare with the different options available? What about having 2 games at one time in one large stadium makes it embarrassing? How many other people are "embarrassed?"

This is not one "large" stadium. I seats 12,000 people. And what is wrong is the optics of having some AAU style garbage going on in the conference show case. As to financials, what would make them look good is filling stadiums. This won't do that.

Is 12,000 seating capacity the right number? Isn't this considered large compared to what we see?

Why do you believe AAU style is "garbage?"

There are a lot more components to financials than filing up a stadium.

Because AAU is as amateur as it gets
12,000 for both venues? Not much.

Amateur in what way? You are expressing a lot of frustration without actually providing material to be frustrated about.
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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
(05-16-2017 02:14 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Amateur in what way? You are expressing a lot of frustration without actually providing material to be frustrated about.

You do know "AAU" stands for Amateur Athletic Union, right?

I'm pretty sure MonarchBlue is pointing out that, just like at the AAU Boo Williams event, the CUSA Tournament in Frisco will be played simultaneously in the same location. That is the reference towards the tournament appearing amateurish. Not saying I agree or disagree but it really isn't that hard to comprehend.

Seriously, do you post with substance? A high portion of your replies are back handed questions in which you seem to think no one will answer.
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Also, why are you asking him to "provide material" about his frustration? It was an opinion, not a statement of fact.
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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
(05-16-2017 04:43 PM)Jackie Moon Wrote:  Also, why are you asking him to "provide material" about his frustration? It was an opinion, not a statement of fact.

If I was to complain about something, i would explain what my complaint is instead of vague insults and offer a reasonable and logical solution. Get all the facts and have a counter argument, then complain.

College basketball is amateur, correct? Since you wanted to open that can of worms.
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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
(05-16-2017 07:35 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 04:43 PM)Jackie Moon Wrote:  Also, why are you asking him to "provide material" about his frustration? It was an opinion, not a statement of fact.

If I was to complain about something, i would explain what my complaint is instead of vague insults and offer a reasonable and logical solution. Get all the facts and have a counter argument, then complain.

College basketball is amateur, correct? Since you wanted to open that can of worms.

FIFY.
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(05-16-2017 07:35 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  If I was to complain about something, i would explain what my complaint is instead of vague insults and offer a reasonable and logical solution. Get all the facts and have a counter argument, then complain.

College basketball is amateur, correct? Since you wanted to open that can of works.

#1. Show me anywhere in this statement where an insult was made. I'll wait.
Quote:Here is an idea of something they can "try". Splitting the men's and women's tournaments so that the women's tournament no longer holds the conference back. They could also "try" letting the higher seed host until the semifinals, that would generate some fans at games, and would be slightly less bush league than playing BooPlex style in a football practice facility, in a town that doesn't have a home team.

There are a number of things they can "try" that would be less embarrassing, and present a much better chance for success, they just have to give up on this whole two tournaments, one town nonsense.

#2. Get all the facts? WTF does that even have to do with the discussion? MonarchBlue gave his/her opinion on making the CUSA Tournament better. It is an opinion. Nothing more.

#3. MonarchBlue gave you a solution. Just because you choose to disagree with it doesn't make it unreasonable or illogical.

I'm really not sure why I am even wasting time on a post I didn't even make but your protection over ANY criticism regarding ODU is hilarious. I mean you have over 6,000 posts on this site so it is quite obvious that every single piece of criticism gets a response from you. No doubt that some on here fall on the extreme side of negativity (we know the culprits) but don't let that mask the real concerns that are valid.

I'm sure you will probably work up some backhanded way of asking a question in response to even this.
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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
What I am wondering is why in the hell did the Pilot feel the need to show Gil Brandt's view on this? He is a 84 year old former NFL VP of Player Personnel for the Cowboys. He has zero affiliation with college basketball today.

Shocking. Of course he is going to think it is a smart move. It's a smart move for the Cowboys because they are going to make money off of CUSA in March while the facility is not in use by the Cowboys. It is a win-win for them.
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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
(05-16-2017 09:58 PM)Jackie Moon Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 07:35 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  If I was to complain about something, i would explain what my complaint is instead of vague insults and offer a reasonable and logical solution. Get all the facts and have a counter argument, then complain.

College basketball is amateur, correct? Since you wanted to open that can of works.

#1. Show me anywhere in this statement where an insult was made. I'll wait.
Quote:Here is an idea of something they can "try". Splitting the men's and women's tournaments so that the women's tournament no longer holds the conference back. They could also "try" letting the higher seed host until the semifinals, that would generate some fans at games, and would be slightly less bush league than playing BooPlex style in a football practice facility, in a town that doesn't have a home team.

There are a number of things they can "try" that would be less embarrassing, and present a much better chance for success, they just have to give up on this whole two tournaments, one town nonsense.

#2. Get all the facts? WTF does that even have to do with the discussion? MonarchBlue gave his/her opinion on making the CUSA Tournament better. It is an opinion. Nothing more.

#3. MonarchBlue gave you a solution. Just because you choose to disagree with it doesn't make it unreasonable or illogical.

I'm really not sure why I am even wasting time on a post I didn't even make but your protection over ANY criticism regarding ODU is hilarious. I mean you have over 6,000 posts on this site so it is quite obvious that every single piece of criticism gets a response from you. No doubt that some on here fall on the extreme side of negativity (we know the culprits) but don't let that mask the real concerns that are valid.

I'm sure you will probably work up some backhanded way of asking a question in response to even this.

This isnt true. With the amount of whining on here, I would have way more posts. Luckily Ive blocked a few so I dont respond.

The conference is trying something and it is in an area with a ton of alumni. They had to move away from the current setup, which was a nightmare. The "criticism" seems focused on the tourney being held in the practice faciliy and the ability to hold multiple games at a time. You can post a criticism without hyperbole and with actual support.

I wish if was in Nashville. But Im not niave enough to cry bc my "option" wasnt used.
05-16-2017 10:42 PM
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RE: CUSA Basketball Tournament to Dallas, well, Frisco, Texas
How JJ sees it.

@ODUMBB coach Jeff Jones in favor of move to Frisco. "Might as well try it. It's not like anything else has been overwhelmingly positive."

You gotta admit -- he has a point.
05-17-2017 01:32 PM
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Wow, I'm amazed at the brutal honesty of that response. And he's right, you just expect something a little more PC from a conference member.
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