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RE: Chicago State To Add Football?!
(Today 11:51 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(Today 04:41 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:58 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  No, it really wouldn't, though. Club teams vary on funding sources, and those levels can range from some institutional commitments (like student activity fees) to donations or other funding sources (anything from a local school donating old equipment to some alumni buying the stuff).

Pioneer programs are funded in every respect by the school; there just aren't scholarships added to the structure. Clubs aren't staffed the same way, either. More like volunteers and stipends (if that).

The difference between moving up from one to the other is at least the high-end of the hundreds of thousands, but more likely low millions.

Oh, and where are they going to play?

Milwaukee played in Shorewood Stadium before they dropped football back in 1973. It is home of the Shorewood High School. The club team now uses it for their games. Other schools used to have football may still have their own stadium that they used for other sports like track, Soccer, field hockey, rugby, and so forth.

Does their club team fly to California? Florida? New York? North Carolina?

And who's picking up the tab if they do?

Even if you have a program that's comfortable playing in a venue that isn't their own, you can't ignore the operation costs.

Bringing this back to Chicago State, they can't pay their athletic staffers now. How do you take on more staff?!

How is this place still open in any form?


NCFA have these teams.

Clarkson in New York
Columbus State
Coppin State
Eastern Michigan
Eastern Connecticut State
Florida
Fort Lauderdale (varsity turned into club)
George Mason
Hartford
Lander University
Longwood
Loyola-Chicago
Miami, Ohio
Michigan State
Middle Georgia State
North Carolina
Oakland
Ohio State
Pittsburgh
Robert Morris-Peoria
Sacred Heart
Michigan-Flint
North Carolina-Greensboro
Vermont
Wright State
Metro State
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RE: Chicago State To Add Football?!
(Today 11:51 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(Today 04:41 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:58 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  No, it really wouldn't, though. Club teams vary on funding sources, and those levels can range from some institutional commitments (like student activity fees) to donations or other funding sources (anything from a local school donating old equipment to some alumni buying the stuff).

Pioneer programs are funded in every respect by the school; there just aren't scholarships added to the structure. Clubs aren't staffed the same way, either. More like volunteers and stipends (if that).

The difference between moving up from one to the other is at least the high-end of the hundreds of thousands, but more likely low millions.

Oh, and where are they going to play?

Milwaukee played in Shorewood Stadium before they dropped football back in 1973. It is home of the Shorewood High School. The club team now uses it for their games. Other schools used to have football may still have their own stadium that they used for other sports like track, Soccer, field hockey, rugby, and so forth.

Does their club team fly to California? Florida? New York? North Carolina?

And who's picking up the tab if they do?

Even if you have a program that's comfortable playing in a venue that isn't their own, you can't ignore the operation costs.

Bringing this back to Chicago State, they can't pay their athletic staffers now. How do you take on more staff?!

How is this place still open in any form?


NCFA have these teams.

Clarkson in New York
Columbus State
Coppin State
Eastern Michigan
Eastern Connecticut State
Florida
Fort Lauderdale (varsity turned into club)
George Mason
Hartford
Lander University
Longwood
Loyola-Chicago
Miami, Ohio
Michigan State
Middle Georgia State
North Carolina
Oakland
Ohio State
Pittsburgh
Robert Morris-Peoria
Sacred Heart
Michigan-Flint
North Carolina-Greensboro
Vermont
Wright State
Metro State

So What? They are CLUBS. Just like all other clubs and organizations on campus they are run by students, not the school.
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RE: Chicago State To Add Football?!
(Today 11:51 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(Today 04:41 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:58 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  
(Yesterday 04:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:29 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  No, it really wouldn't, though. Club teams vary on funding sources, and those levels can range from some institutional commitments (like student activity fees) to donations or other funding sources (anything from a local school donating old equipment to some alumni buying the stuff).

Pioneer programs are funded in every respect by the school; there just aren't scholarships added to the structure. Clubs aren't staffed the same way, either. More like volunteers and stipends (if that).

The difference between moving up from one to the other is at least the high-end of the hundreds of thousands, but more likely low millions.

Oh, and where are they going to play?

Milwaukee played in Shorewood Stadium before they dropped football back in 1973. It is home of the Shorewood High School. The club team now uses it for their games. Other schools used to have football may still have their own stadium that they used for other sports like track, Soccer, field hockey, rugby, and so forth.

Does their club team fly to California? Florida? New York? North Carolina?

And who's picking up the tab if they do?

Even if you have a program that's comfortable playing in a venue that isn't their own, you can't ignore the operation costs.

Bringing this back to Chicago State, they can't pay their athletic staffers now. How do you take on more staff?!

How is this place still open in any form?


NCFA have these teams.

Clarkson in New York
Columbus State
Coppin State
Eastern Michigan
Eastern Connecticut State
Florida
Fort Lauderdale (varsity turned into club)
George Mason
Hartford
Lander University
Longwood
Loyola-Chicago
Miami, Ohio
Michigan State
Middle Georgia State
North Carolina
Oakland
Ohio State
Pittsburgh
Robert Morris-Peoria
Sacred Heart
Michigan-Flint
North Carolina-Greensboro
Vermont
Wright State
Metro State

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RE: Chicago State To Add Football?!
(05-23-2017 05:02 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 04:44 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  If NIU was proposed in Rockford then the city plus Winnebago County probably would've had to shell out a lot to put it there; if the University of Illinois at Rockford was proposed, the state probably would've had more financial responsibility over its foundation.

There are lots and lots of stories, mostly urban legends about why and where universities are located in Illinois. Some fun detail here: http://csnbbs.com/thread-287234.html

For instance, (much like the other post of WA locations for school, jail and capital) there are stories that there was a committee to place the University of Illinois in either Kankakee, or Champaign:

Quote:the rumor was always the the City of Kankakee was give a choice by the State of Illinois if the city wanted a college, or a mental health facility. Being as far back in time as it was when this decision was made, the town elders thought that higher education would never catch on and that big money could be made housing the insane. The named their new money wagon the Illinois Eastern Hospital for the Insane.......

Well we know how well that turned out, considering the cities of Champaign and Urbana snapped up the new University of Illinois and the city of Kankakee now has nothing but the ruins of Shapiro Developmental Center. http://www.rootsweb.com/~asylums/kankakee_il/index.html

Then, other posters chime in:

Quote:When I went to high school, I heard that exact same rumor, only it was Elgin choosing the mental hospital over a university. Funny how these stories get around

Quote:hahaha I heard the same deal with Joliet. We took a prison

Who knows? Fun to chat about, regardless.

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