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RE: ACC Network- Forbes Article Suggests ESPN Can Be Profitable With The ACCN
I just want to point something out for those who think the ACC or SEC "own" any shares of the conference network. ESPN will own the ACC network 100%, just like ESPN owns 100% of the SEC network. ESPN does a (rumored) 70/30 revenue split with the SEC, but it's ESPN's network.
PAC 12 Network: Owned 100% by PAC 12.
Big 10 Network: Owned 49% by Big 10, 51% by Fox.
SEC Network: Owned 100% by ESPN. SEC receives 30% of the revenues (rumored)
ACC Network: Will be owned 100% by ESPN. Revenue splits are unknown.
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(05-15-2017 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I just want to point something out for those who think the ACC or SEC "own" any shares of the conference network. ESPN will own the ACC network 100%, just like ESPN owns 100% of the SEC network. ESPN does a (rumored) 70/30 revenue split with the SEC, but it's ESPN's network.
PAC 12 Network: Owned 100% by PAC 12.
Big 10 Network: Owned 49% by Big 10, 51% by Fox.
SEC Network: Owned 100% by ESPN. SEC receives 30% of the revenues (rumored)
ACC Network: Will be owned 100% by ESPN. Revenue splits are unknown.

That 100% ownership sounds like it would be awesome when it comes to revenue. But, the problem is--without a well connected network partner that can apply leverage to cable carriers--its a lot harder to get carriage---which negatively affects the number of subscribers and ultimately---revenue. If they stick with it, I think the Pac-12 100% ownership model will outperform the others---its just going to take significantly more time to build the subscriber base.
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(05-15-2017 02:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-15-2017 01:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I just want to point something out for those who think the ACC or SEC "own" any shares of the conference network. ESPN will own the ACC network 100%, just like ESPN owns 100% of the SEC network. ESPN does a (rumored) 70/30 revenue split with the SEC, but it's ESPN's network.
PAC 12 Network: Owned 100% by PAC 12.
Big 10 Network: Owned 49% by Big 10, 51% by Fox.
SEC Network: Owned 100% by ESPN. SEC receives 30% of the revenues (rumored)
ACC Network: Will be owned 100% by ESPN. Revenue splits are unknown.

That 100% ownership sounds like it would be awesome when it comes to revenue. But, the problem is--without a well connected network partner that can apply leverage to cable carriers--its a lot harder to get carriage---which negatively affects the number of subscribers and ultimately---revenue.

Agreed.

And that's why the B1G is in the catbird seat. They own half (almost) of their network so they receive the revenues and have Fox as a partner to apply the leverage.
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It is hard to say, I like the B10 model best. Still the SEC doesn't seem to be hurting.
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The benefits of all conference networks are regulatory grossly overstated. But so too are the risks w/ regards to cable declining.

The same is true w/ bundling.
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(05-15-2017 08:36 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Interesting graphic from the article.

[Image: CoFo-TV-viewership-1.jpg?width=960]


Somebody have been cooking the books for the ACC schools. I have seen ratings for Miami Florida games, and they were like .500 and below on several times. Only one or two above 1.5 rating.

Cord cutting is on the way if ESPN would be forcing this network on us consumers. They are not learning.

The only way to save a bunch of money is fold all the networks into one big one as an all college sports Network which includes all the G5 and D1 schools and the top D2 programs to show college football games and all that. When D1 do not play on a Thursday or Friday night games? There are D2, D3 and NAIA games going that they could show on that Network. I just don't see why each conference wants their own network. It should be paid by the number of viewers for each schools than an equal share. Boise State is more popular to watch than many of the P5 schools.
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What often gets missed in these discussions is population density. The reality is less than 20% of the country's population live in the Mountain and Pacific time zones while 47% live in the Eastern time zone alone. It's a simple numbers game with the PAC vs ACC or SEC numbers. There are simply not enough eyeballs in the West to matter.
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(05-16-2017 05:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  What often gets missed in these discussions is population density. The reality is less than 20% of the country's population live in the Mountain and Pacific time zones while 47% live in the Eastern time zone alone. It's a simple numbers game with the PAC vs ACC or SEC numbers. There are simply not enough eyeballs in the West to matter.
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Nobody cares about schools who keeps breaking the NCAA rules and get away with it like Miami Florida have since the 1980s. People are tired of cheaters which Miami is. They seemed to be the number 1 team that breaks the rules over the other schools for all sports.
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(05-15-2017 07:50 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  It is going to cover the most heavily populated region of the country – the East Coast. If it doesn't significantly out-perform the Pac-12 Network it will be a massive disappointment. It's going to end up right where everyone thinks it's going to end up: just below the Big Ten Network and SEC Network and clearly above everyone else.

You would think that when you build a conference in the most populated region of the country, you would somehow manage to include a school that has a footprint in the most populated segment of that region, the Baltimore to NYC corridor.
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(05-16-2017 05:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The reality is less than 20% of the country's population live in the Mountain and Pacific time zones

23.3% FTR
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