NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

(05-14-2017 03:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 02:10 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 01:32 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 01:22 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 10:43 AM)Tiger65 Wrote:  In two years a #5 class is gone. Tubby's is wiser than the nay say posters on this board. Read as follows:

JaQuan Lyle
With Lyle's decision to quit the team, there are no remaining members of Ohio State's five-man 2015 recruiting class, which was ranked No. 1 in the Big Ten and fifth nationally, according to 247Sports' composite rankings. JaQuan Lyle is a former four-star, top-50 recruit.

Lots of bandwagon fans here that can't see the program beyond Calipari's years & despite their denials will not be able to be real fans of the program unless Calipari level success is the routine. Memphis is a top 25-30 program, not the top program in the country & although real fans have hopes we win the national title every year, we don't denigrate the program & everything about it endlessly when we don't. Just remember if we are a top 25 program on average over the last 70 years, it means (for those who love to quote stats) we will have periods that are not top 25 & years when we exceed our avg. Point is, I'm a Memphis fan in the good years & the bad. I've been a season ticket holder for many years in FB & BB - and as such, find the constant criticism of the program & the administration not an attribute becoming of real fans. Sure, I'm critical at times & I have communicated that to the university presidents, the ADs & the head coaches (FB & BB). I am confident that such an approach is much more productive & less detrimental to the Memphis athletic programs than a constant barrage of public criticism on forums such as this. If you want recruits to come to our program, encourage them & promote the program. If not, just keep up the constant criticism.

There are a couple of statements that just really irk me... The whole "Cal year" crap is one of them. For someone who claims to be a fan of the program you do realize we have had success when Cal was NOT here as well? That is such a terrible argument. Anyone I talk to on a regular basis, and even see on this message board pretty much claim to have the same expectations which generally falls into "a Sweet 16 run" every 3-5 years. So when people start that "if we don't win championships every year" I know they are full of hyperbole and just trying to stir the pot.

Just so you know, Memphis has history without the Calipari years. That might be shocking to you. Calipari wasn't the only coach to take Memphis to a championship game. Calipari wasn't the only coach to take Memphis to a Final Four. Calipari was not the only coach to take Memphis to an Elite Eight. Calipari wasn't the only coach to take Memphis to a Sweet 16. So on and so forth. If you want to defend Tubby, go for it, but don't act like Memphis was and is crap without Calipari.

We've never had success like those years, and will likely never again. It was an amazing run, no doubt about it. Now we're just seen as a non power 5 school in an average basketball conference. We've lost our luster. When we are forced to hire a parent to land local kids, there is a problem.

We've got some great things going for us. We do have history, have great facilities and play in an NBA arena. But, most of these kids were about 10 years old the last time we made a serious run.

While I'd like to see us turn it around in a big way, I am also realistic. I think we needed a program reboot, and we'll see if Tubby can turn it around. I'm looking to the 2018 class. If he swings and misses, it's probably time to start looking at replacements. His buyout would be more reasonable.

Some of you people see us as Tubby lovers. That's not the case. But he is our coach for the foreseeable future and his success (or lack of success) directly correlates into the success of my favorite team. A school I actually graduated from (not just decided to be a bandwagon fan). If Tubby can't get it done, I hope they find the money to replace him. I hope that's not the case.

In the meantime, I'm not going to demean Memphis recruits. They do read these boards, and I'm not sure I'd want to come here either after reading some of these posts. But it's a free country so if that's your thing, go for it.

Yes and no we can have those first five years again. But we will never see the last four again. Cal only won 2 out of every 3 games his first five years.

Too many look at his final four years and superimpose it onto his entire time here. Before the prep school squad we really were not making a lot of noise nationally under Cal.

And if the NBA had not decided on the rule about a player being aged 19 years old, or one year removed from college...then Cal might never have snagged the level of recruits that he was able to get to come here.

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

y'all would have run off Larry after going 18-12 and 17-15...no Elite Eight or Sweet 16

(05-14-2017 05:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

y'all would have run off Larry after going 18-12 and 17-15...no Elite Eight or Sweet 16

If that is true, where does that put Tubby. He wasn't ineligible, he just didn't make it to post season. Then throw in Larry had signed Penny Hardaway who had to sit out a year for academics, so that gave him leeway. Where is Tubby's Penny?

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

Historically, Tubby has acheived the 60% NCAA mark.

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(05-14-2017 05:42 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

Historically, Tubby has acheived the 60% NCAA mark.

Sent from my LG-H811 using CSNbbs mobile app

10 years of Finch compared to the last 10 years of Tubby... hrm.

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

I love Larry. I miss my friend.

(05-14-2017 05:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 05:05 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  NCAA ineligeble
NCAA 2nd round
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
NIT 2nd
NCAA Elite 8
NCAA 1st
----
NCAA Sweet 16
NCAA 1st
NIT 1st
Fired.

That was Larry Finch, can Tubby match it?

y'all would have run off Larry after going 18-12 and 17-15...no Elite Eight or Sweet 16

They did run him off midway through the 1996-97 season. One year after being in the top 5 in the early season. You must be a young whippersnapper?

Yes he is.

Yes, in Narcissist's final four years here we were one of the top five programs in the country, earning two 2 seeds and two one seeds. All four years at least to the sweet 16, three times to the elite eight and once to the final...losing, sigh, in overtime.

But...the five year run under Dana Kirk was also a top ten caliber run. Earned seeds of 2, 4, 6, 2 and 3. All five years saw advancement in the tourney, four times to the sweet 16 with a final four run. Would likely have been at minimum one more sweet 16 if not having to play a road game at LSU, although we did have a home game against a better seeded Purdue in 1984.

Those two extended runs count though, so overall, historically, throwing in Larry's six tourneys with an Elite Eight and Sweet 16, the fabulous 1973 team, and even Pastner's four consecutive tourneys with two advancements, and yes, top 20-25 nationally is about right.

Get it Tubby.

(05-14-2017 08:31 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Yes, in Narcissist's final four years here we were one of the top five programs in the country, earning two 2 seeds and two one seeds. All four years at least to the sweet 16, three times to the elite eight and once to the final...losing, sigh, in overtime.

But...the five year run under Dana Kirk was also a top ten caliber run. Earned seeds of 2, 4, 6, 2 and 3. All five years saw advancement in the tourney, four times to the sweet 16 with a final four run. Would likely have been at minimum one more sweet 16 if not having to play a road game at LSU, although we did have a home game against a better seeded Purdue in 1984.

Those two extended runs count though, so overall, historically, throwing in Larry's six tourneys with an Elite Eight and Sweet 16, the fabulous 1973 team, and even Pastner's four consecutive tourneys with two advancements, and yes, top 20-25 nationally is about right.

Get it Tubby.

It took Bartow 3 years. It took Kirk 3 years. It took Calipari 6 years. It may take Tubby that long as well. Gotta have patience folks.

(05-14-2017 08:45 PM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:31 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Yes, in Narcissist's final four years here we were one of the top five programs in the country, earning two 2 seeds and two one seeds. All four years at least to the sweet 16, three times to the elite eight and once to the final...losing, sigh, in overtime.

But...the five year run under Dana Kirk was also a top ten caliber run. Earned seeds of 2, 4, 6, 2 and 3. All five years saw advancement in the tourney, four times to the sweet 16 with a final four run. Would likely have been at minimum one more sweet 16 if not having to play a road game at LSU, although we did have a home game against a better seeded Purdue in 1984.

Those two extended runs count though, so overall, historically, throwing in Larry's six tourneys with an Elite Eight and Sweet 16, the fabulous 1973 team, and even Pastner's four consecutive tourneys with two advancements, and yes, top 20-25 nationally is about right.

Get it Tubby.

It took Bartow 3 years. It took Kirk 3 years. It took Calipari 6 years. It may take Tubby that long as well. Gotta have patience folks.

Bartow was 18-8 his first year with a shot at the conference title.

(05-14-2017 09:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:45 PM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:31 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Yes, in Narcissist's final four years here we were one of the top five programs in the country, earning two 2 seeds and two one seeds. All four years at least to the sweet 16, three times to the elite eight and once to the final...losing, sigh, in overtime.

But...the five year run under Dana Kirk was also a top ten caliber run. Earned seeds of 2, 4, 6, 2 and 3. All five years saw advancement in the tourney, four times to the sweet 16 with a final four run. Would likely have been at minimum one more sweet 16 if not having to play a road game at LSU, although we did have a home game against a better seeded Purdue in 1984.

Those two extended runs count though, so overall, historically, throwing in Larry's six tourneys with an Elite Eight and Sweet 16, the fabulous 1973 team, and even Pastner's four consecutive tourneys with two advancements, and yes, top 20-25 nationally is about right.

Get it Tubby.

It took Bartow 3 years. It took Kirk 3 years. It took Calipari 6 years. It may take Tubby that long as well. Gotta have patience folks.

Bartow was 18-8 his first year with a shot at the conference title.

Bartow had Finch and Robinson from the start. He didn't get to the dance until he got Larry K.

(05-14-2017 09:05 PM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:45 PM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:31 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Yes, in Narcissist's final four years here we were one of the top five programs in the country, earning two 2 seeds and two one seeds. All four years at least to the sweet 16, three times to the elite eight and once to the final...losing, sigh, in overtime.

But...the five year run under Dana Kirk was also a top ten caliber run. Earned seeds of 2, 4, 6, 2 and 3. All five years saw advancement in the tourney, four times to the sweet 16 with a final four run. Would likely have been at minimum one more sweet 16 if not having to play a road game at LSU, although we did have a home game against a better seeded Purdue in 1984.

Those two extended runs count though, so overall, historically, throwing in Larry's six tourneys with an Elite Eight and Sweet 16, the fabulous 1973 team, and even Pastner's four consecutive tourneys with two advancements, and yes, top 20-25 nationally is about right.

Get it Tubby.

It took Bartow 3 years. It took Kirk 3 years. It took Calipari 6 years. It may take Tubby that long as well. Gotta have patience folks.

Bartow was 18-8 his first year with a shot at the conference title.

Bartow had Finch and Robinson from the start. He didn't get to the dance until he got Larry K.

There were less teams getting in the dance. You had to win your conference to get in.

We shared the conference title with Louisville Bartow's second year and although we had beaten the twice we had to play a third game to decide who went to the tournament. We lost in Nashville.

Keep in mind also that Finch and Robinson were unproved first year players Bartow's first year.

He's definitely wiser than some. He got 'em to pay him the big bucks and hired his son. Plus we seem to be in some sort of open-ended contract that he doesn't have to sign for it to be valid. shrug. I don't know exactly how an unsigned contract works, but it is interesting.

Facts are Facts.

(05-14-2017 09:09 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:05 PM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 09:03 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:45 PM)Tiger57 Wrote:  

(05-14-2017 08:31 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Yes, in Narcissist's final four years here we were one of the top five programs in the country, earning two 2 seeds and two one seeds. All four years at least to the sweet 16, three times to the elite eight and once to the final...losing, sigh, in overtime.

But...the five year run under Dana Kirk was also a top ten caliber run. Earned seeds of 2, 4, 6, 2 and 3. All five years saw advancement in the tourney, four times to the sweet 16 with a final four run. Would likely have been at minimum one more sweet 16 if not having to play a road game at LSU, although we did have a home game against a better seeded Purdue in 1984.

Those two extended runs count though, so overall, historically, throwing in Larry's six tourneys with an Elite Eight and Sweet 16, the fabulous 1973 team, and even Pastner's four consecutive tourneys with two advancements, and yes, top 20-25 nationally is about right.

Get it Tubby.

It took Bartow 3 years. It took Kirk 3 years. It took Calipari 6 years. It may take Tubby that long as well. Gotta have patience folks.

Bartow was 18-8 his first year with a shot at the conference title.

Bartow had Finch and Robinson from the start. He didn't get to the dance until he got Larry K.

There were less teams getting in the dance. You had to win your conference to get in.

We shared the conference title with Louisville Bartow's second year and although we had beaten the twice we had to play a third game to decide who went to the tournament. We lost in Nashville.

Stop ruining their narrative with facts. Most of these Bozos think it's been a 64/68 team tournament forever.

*****, *****, *****. You malcontents always whistle the same tune and sound to like you're in need a hot oil enema. I believe I'll shut down and come back in two or three weeks to see if things have changed. However I doubt anything will change, constipation will still rule. If anyone were to pull the plug from your a$$ there would be a $hit storm blowing across Memphis.

(05-14-2017 09:42 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  He's definitely wiser than some. He got 'em to pay him the big bucks and hired his son. Plus we seem to be in some sort of open-ended contract that he doesn't have to sign for it to be valid. shrug. I don't know exactly how an unsigned contract works, but it is interesting.

Facts are Facts.

They haven't signed the actual contract but they have signed an agreement that the contract is valid and there are some details to be worked out. What they have signed is legally binding for both parties.

(05-14-2017 08:30 PM)TG4 Wrote:  Yes he is.

not near as young as I used to be, though...