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trying to understand if the 2018 schedule gets them up to snuff of FBS

I was under the belief that they needed to have a minimum of 5 home games

or 2018 the first transitional year

which would explain NMSU twice coinciding with them no longer Sun Belt
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(05-14-2017 09:58 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  trying to understand if the 2018 schedule gets them up to snuff of FBS

I was under the belief that they needed to have a minimum of 5 home games

or 2018 the first transitional year

which would explain NMSU twice coinciding with them no longer Sun Belt

2018 they need 3 fbs home games 5 every year after that
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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-14-2017 10:18 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(05-14-2017 09:58 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  trying to understand if the 2018 schedule gets them up to snuff of FBS

I was under the belief that they needed to have a minimum of 5 home games

or 2018 the first transitional year

which would explain NMSU twice coinciding with them no longer Sun Belt

2018 they need 3 fbs home games 5 every year after that

That is correct. They are considered an FBS in 2018, the count as FBS for opponents but not eligible for a bowl game. In theory, if Liberty goes 6-6 in 2018 they would be the last bowl available team before a 5-7 team may be picked. The same goes CCU this season. Hoping both hit 6-6 their transitional years.
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RE: Liberty FBS
Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/
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(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.
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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

Does Ga State have that many openings for their schedule? and go 2 for 1? It should be a 1-1 or 2-2.
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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

In this case, it's not really accurate to call it a 2-1.

Liberty would be purchasing each of their two home games (assuredly at a massive price tag) and on top of that, they're giving G State a home game.

A 2-1 with a P5 is completely different. You play twice at the P5 just for the "gift" of them playing one game at your home field. That's not the case here.

Lib fans will try and spin it that way, but based on this article, that's not what's being discussed.
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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 07:48 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

In this case, it's not really accurate to call it a 2-1.

Liberty would be purchasing each of their two home games (assuredly at a massive price tag) and on top of that, they're giving G State a home game.

A 2-1 with a P5 is completely different. You play twice at the P5 just for the "gift" of them playing one game at your home field. That's not the case here.

Lib fans will try and spin it that way, but based on this article, that's not what's being discussed.
Even so it will look to everyone else like a 2-1 no matter the terms.

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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 07:54 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:48 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

In this case, it's not really accurate to call it a 2-1.

Liberty would be purchasing each of their two home games (assuredly at a massive price tag) and on top of that, they're giving G State a home game.

A 2-1 with a P5 is completely different. You play twice at the P5 just for the "gift" of them playing one game at your home field. That's not the case here.

Lib fans will try and spin it that way, but based on this article, that's not what's being discussed.
Even so it will look to everyone else like a 2-1 no matter the terms.

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You're right and I see your point. But if this even happens (who knows if it will), everyone should remember when the flood of 2 or 3 Lib fans start posting over here about the "2-1 against a sun belt team" that this is not really a 2-1 at all. It's just more of Liberty buying games at an exorbinate price tag.

Just more of exactly what most of us expected.
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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

the problem is they can pay like a P5
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(05-21-2017 08:16 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

the problem is they can pay like a P5

P5's don't really have to pay for 2-1's in a normal situation. That 1 home game is enough for a G5 to be willing to play them twice at their place.

That is not the case here. Liberty will be backing up a fleet a dump trucks full of bundled hundred dollar stacks on G States campus to get two home games against them.
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(05-21-2017 07:47 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

Does Ga State have that many openings for their schedule? and go 2 for 1? It should be a 1-1 or 2-2.
We have 1 away game opening from here to 2022.

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(05-21-2017 08:16 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

the problem is they can pay like a P5
Well yeah they are Devry with football. If you have 15k residential students but 100k online students and no wish to be a research institution you can basically create a chute from the registrar office to athletics funding.

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(05-21-2017 08:24 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 08:16 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

the problem is they can pay like a P5

P5's don't really have to pay for 2-1's in a normal situation. That 1 home game is enough for a G5 to be willing to play them twice at their place.

That is not the case here. Liberty will be backing up a fleet a dump trucks full of bundled hundred dollar stacks on G States campus to get two home games against them.
Assuming it's even true.

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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 08:24 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 08:16 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.

Quote:Liberty and Georgia State have had extensive communications with the the possibility of a home and home or even a 2-for-1 deal with Georgia State making two trips to Lynchburg and the Flames making just one trip to Atlanta. Each of the Panthers’ trips to Lynchburg would be accompanied by a financial guarantee from Liberty in the 2-for-1 situation.

http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

the problem is they can pay like a P5

P5's don't really have to pay for 2-1's in a normal situation. That 1 home game is enough for a G5 to be willing to play them twice at their place.

That is not the case here. Liberty will be backing up a fleet a dump trucks full of bundled hundred dollar stacks on G States campus to get two home games against them.


Nope

in a typical 2-1 you still get paid
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Well this is a little upsetting but upon further review not so much. Here's the thing, we are going to have 2 Home games, and 2 Away every year. Those away games should have a least one tied to a 6 to 7 figure paycheck for our trip. Last I checked Liberty was in the state of Virginia and they trade in the US Dollar. I'd just as soon play in a 25k seat stadium of Independent Liberty and get the chance of leaving with a Million bucks and a Win than another 95K seat SEC bloodbath against Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee that we are accustomed to scheduling.
We have a Home opening in 2020. We also need a money game in 2022, and aside from Vandy (SEC) coming in, we are open for takers in 2024. I say accept the cash.

2020
09/12 - at Alabama
09/19 - Savannah State
09/26 - at Charlotte

2022
09/10 - North Carolina
09/17 - Charlotte
10/01 - at Army

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09/28 - Vanderbilt
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RE: Liberty FBS
(05-21-2017 09:10 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 08:24 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 08:16 AM)Tealblood Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:31 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 07:27 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  Georgia State is said to be considering a 2-1 deal with Liberty .... two games in Lynchberg and 1 in Atlanta.


http://www.aseaofred.com/whos-had-conver...cheduling/

Oh hell no I don't care how much Liberty is paying no Sun Belt team should ever agree to a 2-1 with a non P-5 level school.

the problem is they can pay like a P5

P5's don't really have to pay for 2-1's in a normal situation. That 1 home game is enough for a G5 to be willing to play them twice at their place.

That is not the case here. Liberty will be backing up a fleet a dump trucks full of bundled hundred dollar stacks on G States campus to get two home games against them.


Nope

in a typical 2-1 you still get paid

In a normal 2 for 1, you're telling me a P5 normally pays a fee for each home game, and then also gives a return trip on top of that?

No. That's not standard procedure.
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(05-21-2017 09:20 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  Well this is a little upsetting but upon further review not so much. Here's the thing, we are going to have 2 Home games, and 2 Away every year. Those away games should have a least one tied to a 6 to 7 figure paycheck for our trip. Last I checked Liberty was in the state of Virginia and they trade in the US Dollar. I'd just as soon play in a 25k seat stadium of Independent Liberty and get the chance of leaving with a Million bucks and a Win than another 95K seat SEC bloodbath against Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee that we are accustomed to scheduling.
We have a Home opening in 2020. We also need a money game in 2022, and aside from Vandy (SEC) coming in, we are open for takers in 2024. I say accept the cash.

2020
09/12 - at Alabama
09/19 - Savannah State
09/26 - at Charlotte

2022
09/10 - North Carolina
09/17 - Charlotte
10/01 - at Army

2024
09/28 - Vanderbilt
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A Liberty game in Atlanta will draw flies. We have been there done that. And maybe 20 people trek to Lynchburg. At least you get a check I guess. If this is the scehduling philosophy we can stop at Phase I with this stadium.

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(05-21-2017 09:50 AM)panama Wrote:  
(05-21-2017 09:20 AM)ChooChoo Wrote:  Well this is a little upsetting but upon further review not so much. Here's the thing, we are going to have 2 Home games, and 2 Away every year. Those away games should have a least one tied to a 6 to 7 figure paycheck for our trip. Last I checked Liberty was in the state of Virginia and they trade in the US Dollar. I'd just as soon play in a 25k seat stadium of Independent Liberty and get the chance of leaving with a Million bucks and a Win than another 95K seat SEC bloodbath against Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee that we are accustomed to scheduling.
We have a Home opening in 2020. We also need a money game in 2022, and aside from Vandy (SEC) coming in, we are open for takers in 2024. I say accept the cash.

2020
09/12 - at Alabama
09/19 - Savannah State
09/26 - at Charlotte

2022
09/10 - North Carolina
09/17 - Charlotte
10/01 - at Army

2024
09/28 - Vanderbilt
I love playing Curb Your Enthusiasm

A Liberty game in Atlanta will draw flies. We have been there done that. And maybe 20 people trek to Lynchburg. At least you get a check I guess. If this is the scehduling philosophy we can stop at Phase I with this stadium.

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You know your "flies" reference begs to have those in the know (GaSt fans, LU fans and SBC opposing team fans), to state the facts when LU played GaSt at the Georgia Dome regarding attendance. Do you really want to go there?
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