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(05-14-2017 01:17 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Well Harbaugh makes 2.5 x as much as Delany's base pay every year and Harbaugh gets bonuses. I think 20 million for Delany in a year where the Big 10 Network lost 39.2% of its value is a bit steep. The average share in the Big 10 Network decreased from 113.5 million in 2015 to 81.5 million in 2016. If each school loses 32 million each in equity in the Big 10 Network why does Delany deserve 20 million in bonuses for a 6 year deal with FOX and ESPN?

But if the player is upset that Delany gets 20 million as a bonus and makes 2 million a year as a base salary then why does he play for a guy who earns 2.5 times what Delany makes in base pay and still gets bonuses too? I think he should be upset about both.

Anyway 20 million looks like a golden parachute to me for years of really stellar service.

Your valuation isn't worth the paper it was written on, but your sentiment is true/valid. Jim is wildly over-paid. He didn't bring in $22 million last year, which is a HUGE problem, given that the B1G member are almost entirely public, and many of the B1G states are broke. He's taking money from Midwestern taxpayers.

And before some B1G homer gets cute and starts babbling on about the financial policy at some cherry picked B1G school, money is fungible.
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He could have gone to the MAC, I'm sure the MAC commissioner isn't getting anywhere near that much money.
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(05-14-2017 09:34 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-14-2017 09:28 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(05-14-2017 07:09 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  Not a smart move by B1G to announce a huge bonus to its executive. I think he's earned $20M, but to announce it like this sounds like a one time payment when it's supposedly going to be paid out over numerous years.

Student-athletes should be pissed.

If they want to start a rallying call, this is it.

Student athletes should be pissed?? How about regular students who have to take out loans to subsidize this ****?! Don't feel to bad for the athletes. My daughter between stipend payments and housing checks left college with 10K in the bank. Meanwhile many fellow students left with 100K in loans. If athletes manage money well they can leave with a nice bit of cash. My guess is the player complaining is one of the many football players that blow their money.

I understand this, but total amount isn't relevant. It's about whether you are getting paid in accordance with your market value. LeBron James might make over $20 million per year, but he's actually underpaid (as he would be making even more in a non-salary cap system), whereas there can be people making minimum wage that are overpaid relative to their market value. There are studies showing that the value of a 5-star recruit is close to $500,000 per year for a school, yet they're clearly not getting paid anywhere near that amount (at least above the board). The reason why shady boosters that pay players under the table exist is because everyone knows the true market value of these those players (and it exceeds the value of their scholarships).

Link for that study?
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(05-14-2017 09:28 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  
(05-14-2017 07:09 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  Not a smart move by B1G to announce a huge bonus to its executive. I think he's earned $20M, but to announce it like this sounds like a one time payment when it's supposedly going to be paid out over numerous years.

Student-athletes should be pissed.

If they want to start a rallying call, this is it.

Student athletes should be pissed?? How about regular students who have to take out loans to subsidize this ****?! Don't feel to bad for the athletes. My daughter between stipend payments and housing checks left college with 10K in the bank. Meanwhile many fellow students left with 100K in loans. If athletes manage money well they can leave with a nice bit of cash. My guess is the player complaining is one of the many football players that blow their money.
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The fact of the matter is the current package college football players get overpays some of them and underpays others. The "easiest" solution (none are truly easy or they'd be done by now) would to be to let players capitalize on their image. This would lead to a much larger payday for the QB at Notre Dame than the backup punter at Coastal Carolina, and rightfully so.
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(05-14-2017 04:46 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-14-2017 10:34 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  what did all the players that were not drafted and that were not signed as free agents outside the draft get for their skills?

oh they got exactly what he market said their football skills were worth and that was ZERO

you seem to believe that the vast majority of D1-A players or even D1-AA players get drafted to the pros or ever spend a day in the pros much less the reality that the VAST majority never spend a day in the pros

Your comment is based on the assumption that if college athletes could be paid, all of them would be paid the same amount. That's how it is now (i.e., none of them are paid at all, at least legally), but there's no reason it has to be that way.

The most valuable athletes, or those most in demand, could and should be paid more. The compensation for Myles Garrett or Leonard Fournette doesn't have to be the same as that of every other player in FBS. The most sought-after players drive the W-L records, the titles, the attendance, the media money, all of that. Schools don't pay every coach, or every athletic director, or every university president, the same amount of money, and there's no reason to pay every athlete the same amount, either.

and your assumption is that when it is all said and done and you are paying those very few players "what they are worth" (after years of a massive investment in time and effort into their coaching and training) that there will be enough money to pay players like khalid hill that have a market value of ZERO to the pros

because the reality is whether they have any use for it or not they are getting about $100,000 to $200,000 (possibly higher at MU) in tuition, housing. food, clothing and the like for playing and that is probably not totally counting the cost of coaches and trainers and facilities to coach and train them

and I am sure your argument will be "well then some programs can break off and go semi-pro" or "well them some players might not get to play college ball"

and the results of that (which I would not mind at all) would be a "league" of about 10 schools all beating up on each others and massive fan disinterest until it all fell apart and about 90% of the football athletes on college campuses would never set foot on a college campus and they would never come close to sniffing a college degree

but hey "major win" because a few knuckleheads that have no business con a college campus are now getting paid a lot of money to waste space on that campus until it all falls apart in a few years

plus if you are going to demand that the college level be a semi pro league then surely you are in favor of semi pro players paying their "teams" as they exit to move up to the big leagues and the result of that will be a lot of players cutting million dollar plus checks and that is one less million they have of a very short pro career to blow before they end up out of the pros and massively in debt and with little skills and no education of meaning

I would much prefer that these athlete athletes sue the NFL and the NBA for the right to take their ignorance and stupidity and their lack of use for a college degree directly to the pros and then they no longer infest the college game and drive up the cost of the college game for those that actually place a value on the education, housing, food, clothing and training that they get for free in exchange for playing a sport that they have no real pro value after college

or better yet we can simply start requiring all paid players to pay full tuition, books, food, housing and even training facilities fees and they can also pay "players taxes" in the cities and towns they play in and when 99% of then have someone that can do math explain the math to them they will realize they are going to get paid perhaps $45,000 in real dollars and they are going to owe $125,000 in tuition, taxes, training cost, food, clothing and housing

then of course those same morons and their idiotic advocates will be crying that "youth" no longer have access to a college education because they have been priced out of the ability to pay to play.....then we ca point to the few fools making a lot more money and say "take it up with them" or "ask your homie for a loan" and laugh at their financial and economic ignorance and then tell them to make it a double and hurry up the line at the drive thru is backing up

there was a comment on the A&M fan forum about dopie noil not getting taken by Green Bay and not making the free agent list and they said that 1/3 of the players that leave school early do not end up drafted

so they go from free food, tuition, housing, clothing, training ect worth about $200,000+ a year at an SEC SEC SEC type program to NOTHING and they have no degree as well......why would anyone want to pay these people to litter a college campus in the first place whe they belong in Arena ball or somewhere like that where they can play football and be stupid and it will not come at the expense of other college students on campus to actually PAY to get a degree
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(05-14-2017 07:08 PM)Chappy Wrote:  The fact of the matter is the current package college football players get overpays some of them and underpays others. The "easiest" solution (none are truly easy or they'd be done by now) would to be to let players capitalize on their image. This would lead to a much larger payday for the QB at Notre Dame than the backup punter at Coastal Carolina, and rightfully so.

no the easiest and best solution is to keep those that have no use for a college education off of college campuses and make them someone else's problem

or those that think they are worth more than the value of a college education and all the other associated cost can find someone that wants to foot the bill for that.....like a minor league system

these "playas" need to go after the NFL and the NBA and stop trying to ruin college football even more than they have

and of anyone thinks that schools even like Michigan or Texas (or possibly even Alabama) are just waiting to go to a pay players model they are sadly mistaken they are waiting for it all to blow up like the rest of us
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You can't blame the players for the NFL's and NBA's lack of a minor league system. You can fault the universities for admitting players that shouldn't qualify though.

And I'm not suggesting the schools pay the players any more than they are now. I'm suggesting they allow the players for make money off their own likeness. Like video games, jersey sales, bobble heads, local commercials, speaking engagements, etc.
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(05-14-2017 09:20 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  If the player has such a problem with the current system, transfer to a D2 school. Problem solved. Nobody is forcing him to play there and be "broke". I'm sure 1000s would gladly be taken advantage of in his place.

COMPLETELY agree.

If he has that much talent, it won't matter which program he's at, the pros will find him.
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I don't see any value in the kid's comment.

Is NCAAF big business for the schools? Yes.

Are kids getting phenomenal opportunities to play the game and, if they want it, an education? Yes.

Its a question of equity and this is the wrong place to stand to make such an argument.
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