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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
ACC 16th first choice Texas, failing that West Virginia.

The whole West Virginia, Louisville sweepstakes for the Big XII, followed by the Louisville, Cincinnati and Connecticut tothe ACC clearly showed a pecking order

1. West Virginia
2. Louisville
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3 & Cincy & UConn

The Big XII if it loses Texas, OU, probably KU and perhaps a 4th as a Texas partner (unless that is West Virginia in the SEC), would go back to that list and at the top is West Virginia - and it's not really close.
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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
Some ND alumni reaction (Lol, maybe reactionary, given the Board). None like the idea at all.

http://ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?...0416;d=all
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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
I'm not an Irish fan, and I don't like the idea either. They really don;t need it from a schedule or access POV - 5 ACC games, plus Stanford, USC and Navy gives them a core 8 games, and there is no shortage of schools that want to play the Irish and will even bend their schedules to take them in October or November. But the reality is the ACCN potential is something they need to get a piece of.
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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
(05-13-2017 03:39 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  When does ND's contract with NBC run out?



2025. It was just recently renewed for ten years.
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(05-13-2017 06:36 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I'm not an Irish fan, and I don't like the idea either. They really don;t need it from a schedule or access POV - 5 ACC games, plus Stanford, USC and Navy gives them a core 8 games, and there is no shortage of schools that want to play the Irish and will even bend their schedules to take them in October or November. But the reality is the ACCN potential is something they need to get a piece of.



ND already contractually is set to get a full share of any ACC Network distributions, just like every other ACC school.

The latest deal signed last July guarantees ND this WITHOUT having to join in football through 2036.

That is why you just saw ND and the ACC announce those games through 2037.



One day after the ACC and ND announce scheduled games through 2037, Brando tells us otherwise.

He said the same thing back before the ACC Network and the new GOR was announced.

If this was in the works (as Brando says), why did ND and the ACC agree to the contractual provision that says that ND doesn't have to join in football through 2036, but gets a full ACC Network share?

That is a lot of effort and negotiations for...nothing?

Why not announce ND to the ACC at the same time as the ACC Network announcement last year?

What a big splash that would have made! That would have been big news indeed.

Didn't happen.

Why go to the bother of making the schedule announcement if it is "fake news" and was never meant by either side?

It just doesn't make "walking around sense".

Brando has always been a blowhard. He lives in Shreveport, is an SEC honk and has no ties to ND.
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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
(05-13-2017 06:30 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Some ND alumni reaction (Lol, maybe reactionary, given the Board). None like the idea at all.

http://ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?...0416;d=all

Rock's House is the most radical of all of the ND message boards.
Those guys bash everything.....Swarbrick, Kelly, 1 loss seasons. It's the most reactionary bunch on the internet. What they want is Knute......Ara wasn't good enough...he was a Presbyterian....Holtz...maybe. A truly delusional bunch.
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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
(05-13-2017 06:29 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  ACC 16th first choice Texas, failing that West Virginia.

The whole West Virginia, Louisville sweepstakes for the Big XII, followed by the Louisville, Cincinnati and Connecticut tothe ACC clearly showed a pecking order

1. West Virginia
2. Louisville
gap
3 & Cincy & UConn

The Big XII if it loses Texas, OU, probably KU and perhaps a 4th as a Texas partner (unless that is West Virginia in the SEC), would go back to that list and at the top is West Virginia - and it's not really close.

Louisville is already in the ACC. c'mon man!
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(05-13-2017 06:42 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-13-2017 06:30 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Some ND alumni reaction (Lol, maybe reactionary, given the Board). None like the idea at all.

http://ndnation.com/boards/showpost.php?...0416;d=all

Rock's House is the most radical of all of the ND message boards.
Those guys bash everything.....Swarbrick, Kelly, 1 loss seasons. It's the most reactionary bunch on the internet. What they want is Knute......Ara wasn't good enough...he was a Presbyterian....Holtz...maybe. A truly delusional bunch.

Yes, but they are mostly alumni and not THAT unrepresentative of the overall alumni attitudes towards the idea of ND joining a football conference.

You would have to win them over, and many like them, or you would have an insurgent, unruly, angry bunch who would fight this tooth and nail, if it were in the realm of probability, which it is not.

If it is, that angry, surly insurgent group will be inside the ACC....and fighting everything about the conference.

Last year, Tim Brando assured all of us that ND was going to join the ACC for football......because with the ACC Network, the money was just going to be too damn good to pass up.

When it came out that the ACC had carved out ND football through 2036 AND gave ND a full ACC Network share, he disappeared.

Now, he is back...with another "theory".
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RE: ND joining the ACC for football not so far fetched....
If Notre Dame has a share of the ACCN, even pro-rated at 5/8th for Football, full for Basketball, then the need to join is much less. They just need a better primary deal for their Football.

Actually ND is scheduled through 2037.
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(05-13-2017 07:30 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  If Notre Dame has a share of the ACCN, even pro-rated at 5/8th for Football, full for Basketball, then the need to join is much less. They just need a better primary deal for their Football.

Actually ND is scheduled through 2037.


ND is going to get the same amount of distributions from the ACC Network as the other fourteen ACC schools.

Nothing is pro-rated. A full share, without joining for football.

People inside ND say the new 2015-25 NBC deals pays ND $22 or 23 million per year for 7 football games.

The old 2005-10 NBC deal paid ND $15 million a year.


It gets around $6.2 million/year from the ACC/ESPN deal for its basketball, baseball and other sports.

It has its own separate deal with NBC Sports to televise its home hockey games, despite joining the Big Ten for hockey and having away hockey games on BTN (which I will never see, cuz I won't pay for BTN).
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