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Will the P5 pull out of NCAA in 2024?
Gosh man, you da man, I could not agree more from what you said here and I've never been the same as a football fan sense we had to kick out bud Adams, I only just kinda started watching pro football, sometimes...
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05-13-2017 02:11 AM
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Will the P5 pull out of NCAA in 2024?
So it looks like the p5ers can't or will not pull out of the NCAA for many reasons
05-14-2017 09:35 PM
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RE: Will the P5 pull out of NCAA in 2024?
But, you could get a major backlash from fans from the other schools that are not in the P5 which would get politicians involved. We have seen in recent years that politicians lobbying for schools to get into a P5 conference like Southern Illinois-Edwardsville, SMU, Houston, Memphis,East Carolina, Rice, Tulane, UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Utah, Baylor and so forth. With many political figures in powerful places would dictate the P5 schools to accept them.
There seems to be a threat of an antitrust lawsuit against the Power 5 conferences from schools that could not get in. I think Politicians are behind this, and maybe Liberty made a threat to have a antitrust lawsuit against the FBS as well. If there are antitrust lawsuits impending? Could we see the AAC and MWC file an antitrust lawsuit against the Power 5 to include them as a power 7 conference? Could we see lawsuits from FCS conferences to move up as a whole for FBS status like MVFC forming a new all-sports FBS level conference? Could we see D2 schools that wants to move up, but can't file an antitrust lawsuit?

The threat of legal lawsuits could keep the P5 in check. With many of the P5 schools being sued right now for rape of women and children? Those schools are paying a bunch of money to victims, and they can not leave the NCAA right now. They could go broke. Many of these schools are paying settlement cases to victims, former players, former coaches and so forth. Many of the P5 schools are going broke in debt like Michigan and California.
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RE: Will the P5 pull out of NCAA in 2024?
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...wne-alston
Quote:The NCAA and Power 5 conference have agreed to pay members of a class-action lawsuit a $208.7 million settlement to players who played before cost of attendance stipend were implemented or did not receive one since they have been. It boils down to over $6,700 dollars per athlete, provided they played four years between 2009-2017. The lawsuit was initially filed by a former West Virginia running back, and the payout is not limited to just football players.

That is more money they lost as well. P5 is actually losing money in lawsuits big time. That is why talks about schools like Boise State, Hawaii, Colorado State, San Diego State, New Mexico, UNR and UNLV to the PAC 12 is more for travel costs to save money to go towards fcoas to avoid anymore of these lawsuits.
05-16-2017 03:16 AM
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Football might do their own thing

NCAA tourney is too much of a cash cow to ruin
05-16-2017 07:47 AM
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(05-12-2017 07:38 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  To be honest the Men's NCAA basketball tournament would be more interesting without the P5. More interesting mid majors that fans want to see in the tourney over the boring old P5 schools.

Are you smoking crack? THE best part of the tournament is the non-P5 beating the P5 for a round or three. No P5 makes that tournament the CBI - maybe ....
05-17-2017 07:58 AM
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RE: Will the P5 pull out of NCAA in 2024?
I'm an AState fan no matter what, I went to games when we were College Division I, the short stop in Division II as we transitioned into Division I football after the new structure was adopted, Division I, Division I-A, Division I-AA, then I-A/FBS again.

All that said.

No one has ever put forward a compelling argument as to WHY they would break away.
The dollars gained from the CFP not sharing are negligible and the dollars gained from taking over the NCAA Tournament are nice but don't add up to a huge amount of money, less than playing in a top bowl game.

The issue of low scholarship programs blocking things the P5 want because the low scholies don't think it is fair for the P5 to do something they cannot afford is resolved with autonomy.

There simply is no gain compared to the PR and legal minefield that a break away would create.
05-17-2017 08:38 AM
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(05-12-2017 05:57 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  If so what then?
Just wondering if some p5ers will stay behind, mybe Nebraska in a desperate move for better recruiting, seeing as their recruiting has tanked sense moving to the big10

More likely they THREATEN to pull out in an attempt to get concessions from the NCAA.

If they do, the P5 will get the changes they want and go about their business.

Everything is a negotiation.
05-17-2017 09:21 AM
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(05-16-2017 07:47 AM)TheBasketBallOpinion Wrote:  Football might do their own thing

NCAA tourney is too much of a cash cow to ruin
^This.

This would be the reason why they don't. They would be forced out for ALL Sports, not to mention the big-time PR nightmare from not only the fans and the Press, but of the Students of the Schools that would break away and would never get past Anti-Trust....

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(05-17-2017 09:48 AM)lance99 Wrote:  
(05-16-2017 07:47 AM)TheBasketBallOpinion Wrote:  Football might do their own thing

NCAA tourney is too much of a cash cow to ruin
^This.

This would be the reason why they don't. They would be forced out for ALL Sports, not to mention the big-time PR nightmare from not only the fans and the Press, but of the Students of the Schools that would break away and would never get past Anti-Trust....

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P5 can't break away from the others either because states that do not have a team in the group can get the politicians on board to make threats for inclusion.

Hawaii
Boise State
Montana and Montana State
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
Wyoming
New Mexico
New York
Delaware
Rhode Island
Maine
Vermont
Alaska
Mass.
Conn.
New Hampshire

Then, you could see states that wants more public schools to be with the P5 like Texas, Illinois and so forth.
Look at all the Texas schools got politicians wanted their teams to join the Big 12 last year?
05-17-2017 09:57 AM
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