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RE: Unofficial 2017 FB Pre-Camp Thread
I'd pick Miami in the East. Coin toss between us and NIU, we just gave that game away last year. WMU could easily win the West with good QB play......lose to Toledo, NIU and EMU with poor QB play. They have a new starter (R-Soph) with zero experience, and their backup just transferred, leaving a real problem if the new guy goes down. Same could obviously be said for us if Roback goes down.
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(07-26-2017 08:33 AM)JonesGoddard Wrote:  Looks like the team is spending the first week away from "the factory" for camp -- equipment staff has alluded to it being "south". Anyone have any idea where?

In an interview today with Steiner, CC said they will be in Ohio for 4 or 5 days for camp. I wasn't sure of the city, "Xenia" is what it sounded like he said but I'm not familiar with Ohio.

EDIT: It is Xenia, Ohio, which is just outside of Dayton.
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RE: Unofficial 2017 FB Pre-Camp Thread
One critical question is whether Mike Glass III has been cleared and whether he has actually signed and will be there in August. If not we will have a potential depth problem at QB.

The 3 jucos OL I've mentioned are Dakota Ramsey, Walter Harris III and Jordan Johnson out of Garden City CC (6'5, 265). Have they signed, been cleared and in camp in August? Or are some signing in December? Even if they show up inAugust are they playing right away or being redshirted this year?

And are there any other late signees for example TE?

Any grad transfers?

The position battles are some positions should be interesting.
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(07-26-2017 06:20 PM)emu79 Wrote:  One critical question is whether Mike Glass III has been cleared and whether he has actually signed and will be there in August. If not we will have a potential depth problem at QB.

The 3 jucos OL I've mentioned are Dakota Ramsey, Walter Harris III and Jordan Johnson out of Garden City CC (6'5, 265). Have they signed, been cleared and in camp in August? Or are some signing in December? Even if they show up inAugust are they playing right away or being redshirted this year?

And are there any other late signees for example TE?

Any grad transfers?

The position battles are some positions should be interesting.

I'm kind of mystified by your posts on these JUCO, grad transfers, etc.

If they are signed, etc. shouldn't we be seeing their names on the roster now? Isn't the roster as of media day considered complete? Accurate?

Haven't checked but shouldn't we have a media guide in the next several weeks.

I believe the idea is to give out the media guide to the media day attendees.
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RE: Unofficial 2017 FB Pre-Camp Thread
(07-27-2017 02:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 06:20 PM)emu79 Wrote:  One critical question is whether Mike Glass III has been cleared and whether he has actually signed and will be there in August. If not we will have a potential depth problem at QB.

The 3 jucos OL I've mentioned are Dakota Ramsey, Walter Harris III and Jordan Johnson out of Garden City CC (6'5, 265). Have they signed, been cleared and in camp in August? Or are some signing in December? Even if they show up inAugust are they playing right away or being redshirted this year?

And are there any other late signees for example TE?

Any grad transfers?

The position battles are some positions should be interesting.

I'm kind of mystified by your posts on these JUCO, grad transfers, etc.

If they are signed, etc. shouldn't we be seeing their names on the roster now? Isn't the roster as of media day considered complete? Accurate?

Haven't checked but shouldn't we have a media guide in the next several weeks.

I believe the idea is to give out the media guide to the media day attendees.

And I'm mystified that you're mystified.

We've talked about Glass III, Ramsey and Harris III in other threads. And in fact some of those are your comments on them. My only question is whether Glass III had changed his mind and when the three JUCO players will show up (for August camp-this thread), or December. We haven't talked about Jordan Johnson much. Here's his twitter account: https://twitter.com/underrated_60

I'll let you review his tweets and gage his interest in EMU. He redshirted at Garden City last year. I believe his hudl weight at 265 might be low. At 6'5 he might be a tackle possibility if not this year in the future.

I believe that JUCO Frenzy's report that Harris III decommited from EMU isn't accurate. I also note that Rivals has him rated two star.

My comment about grad transfers is a question, not a statement. Questions have ? and statements have. Someone besides you and me might have information on that or another late signed players.

The NCAA clearinghouse doesn't care about Media days and media guides. There have been players in the media guide and team photo who aren't there on the opening day roster or visa versa if they were not cleared to play when the guide or photo was taken.
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I'm still confused why a player who expects to begin practice in two weeks isn't on the roster.

None of these recruits are h.s. kids who need to go through the laborious NCAA Clearinghouse process. Presumably if they are JUCO grads they are good to go unless they took courses in basket-weaving and can be listed on the roster.

Like don't we have other 2017 June JUCO grads who are in school now?
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(07-27-2017 06:56 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm still confused why a player who expects to begin practice in two weeks isn't on the roster.

None of these recruits are h.s. kids who need to go through the laborious NCAA Clearinghouse process. Presumably if they are JUCO grads they are good to go unless they took courses in basket-weaving and can be listed on the roster.

Like don't we have other 2017 June JUCO grads who are in school now?

No, the ones on the current roster are those that enrolled in January 2017. But to refresh your memory think of when Johnny N, Bailey and Porter were put on the roster. We are probably looking at guys who finished classes in May or June of 2017 which is a month ago.
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(07-27-2017 09:30 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(07-27-2017 06:56 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm still confused why a player who expects to begin practice in two weeks isn't on the roster.

None of these recruits are h.s. kids who need to go through the laborious NCAA Clearinghouse process. Presumably if they are JUCO grads they are good to go unless they took courses in basket-weaving and can be listed on the roster.

Like don't we have other 2017 June JUCO grads who are in school now?

No, the ones on the current roster are those that enrolled in January 2017. But to refresh your memory think of when Johnny N, Bailey and Porter were put on the roster. We are probably looking at guys who finished classes in May or June of 2017 which is a month ago.

Maybe yes or no.

Desmond Kelly was a June grad and was announced in Feb and is on the roster. I don't know if Kelly enrolled in school for late June.
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(07-27-2017 11:18 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-27-2017 09:30 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(07-27-2017 06:56 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I'm still confused why a player who expects to begin practice in two weeks isn't on the roster.

None of these recruits are h.s. kids who need to go through the laborious NCAA Clearinghouse process. Presumably if they are JUCO grads they are good to go unless they took courses in basket-weaving and can be listed on the roster.

Like don't we have other 2017 June JUCO grads who are in school now?

No, the ones on the current roster are those that enrolled in January 2017. But to refresh your memory think of when Johnny N, Bailey and Porter were put on the roster. We are probably looking at guys who finished classes in May or June of 2017 which is a month ago.

Maybe yes or no.

Desmond Kelly was a June grad and was announced in Feb and is on the roster. I don't know if Kelly enrolled in school for late June.

Lets wait and see who is on the roster when we play Charlotte.
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RE: Unofficial 2017 FB Pre-Camp Thread
Mike Glass III twitter is now back to EMU commit.
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https://twitter.com/vinasty55/status/890761344651317248

Looks like he is waiting to hear if the NCAA clears him to play this year.


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Taking their sweet ol time. Never change, NCAA.
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(07-28-2017 08:56 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  https://twitter.com/vinasty55/status/890761344651317248

Looks like he is waiting to hear if the NCAA clears him to play this year.


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Sometimes athletes from other countries face these issues...
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(07-28-2017 12:17 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 08:56 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  https://twitter.com/vinasty55/status/890761344651317248

Looks like he is waiting to hear if the NCAA clears him to play this year.


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Sometimes athletes from other countries face these issues...
I'm concerned that he's worried about his amateur status.....I hope it's not open to debate and he never received payment for football.
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(07-28-2017 02:35 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 12:17 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 08:56 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  https://twitter.com/vinasty55/status/890761344651317248

Looks like he is waiting to hear if the NCAA clears him to play this year.


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Sometimes athletes from other countries face these issues...
I'm concerned that he's worried about his amateur status.....I hope it's not open to debate and he never received payment for football.

You'd hope our staff would vet this stuff a little better so we wouldn't have to worry about eligibility just as camp opens.

This kid has been working out with the team for a while now, and fully expected to be part of the 2 deep. Also way too late in the game to find a comparable replacement if he falls through. 01-lauramac2
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(07-28-2017 06:33 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 02:35 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 12:17 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 08:56 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  https://twitter.com/vinasty55/status/890761344651317248

Looks like he is waiting to hear if the NCAA clears him to play this year.


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Sometimes athletes from other countries face these issues...
I'm concerned that he's worried about his amateur status.....I hope it's not open to debate and he never received payment for football.

You'd hope our staff would vet this stuff a little better so we wouldn't have to worry about eligibility just as camp opens.

This kid has been working out with the team for a while now, and fully expected to be part of the 2 deep. Also way too late in the game to find a comparable replacement if he falls through. 01-lauramac2
Is he allowed to practice?
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(07-29-2017 06:23 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 06:33 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 02:35 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 12:17 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(07-28-2017 08:56 AM)EAGLE KING Wrote:  https://twitter.com/vinasty55/status/890761344651317248

Looks like he is waiting to hear if the NCAA clears him to play this year.


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Sometimes athletes from other countries face these issues...
I'm concerned that he's worried about his amateur status.....I hope it's not open to debate and he never received payment for football.

You'd hope our staff would vet this stuff a little better so we wouldn't have to worry about eligibility just as camp opens.

This kid has been working out with the team for a while now, and fully expected to be part of the 2 deep. Also way too late in the game to find a comparable replacement if he falls through. 01-lauramac2
Is he allowed to practice?

Who know there could be other issues related to him being an international student. An issue related to playing with the Finnish National Team? impermissible benefits while on that team? Or did he use up some NCAA eligibility in Finland????

This article is geared more for members of the compliance staffs than us posters but it discusses the issue. About 1% of NCAA D-I athletes are foreign.

http://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cg...text=ijgls
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Villie had decent FBS interest and offers as I recall. Sometimes the staff has to roll the dice to get a player that could make an impact. I also recall there was a question as whether he would be eligible for two or three years due to his playing in Finland. I don't recall the professional question coming up at that time. Lets hope it all works out for Villie and us. I am not familiar with JUCO rules but why didn't this professional issue come up in his first year playing JUCO football?
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