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Trump"s LU commencement speech
I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.
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RE: Trump"s LU commencement speech
(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.
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RE: Trump"s LU commencement speech
(05-12-2017 10:51 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.
There are benefits with a POTUS visit to a university. On this occasion, the negatives of the visit greatly outweigh the positives.
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(05-12-2017 11:59 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 10:51 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.
There are benefits with a POTUS visit to a university. On this occasion, the negatives of the visit greatly outweigh the positives.

I don't know that the negatives outweigh the positives. What are the negatives? When we look back in 10 years, 20 years, etc., will anyone remember the Comey situation, or even remember his name? This is all so silly. We are having the sitting President of the United States of America as our commencement speaker. How often does that happen? Liberty is in rare air. George H.W. Bush did it at LU too and do you know what I know about the controversy that happened then? I don't know anything about any controversy at the time because people forget these things and it will be forgotten in the future. Nobody here was talking about it because people come here to talk sports, and this is basically the offseason for LU sports as the spring sports wrap up. Fans are much more interested in talking about football and basketball, of which both are not in season.
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RE: Trump"s LU commencement speech
(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.
1) Why would JFJr choose to ally himself with a person who has covered up and enabled rapes on college campuses?

2) Because Jr loves attention, when's a better time to tell the world you guys got a waiver then when you have a sitting president speak on your campus?
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Trump"s LU commencement speech
I am glad Trump is at graduation. It is good for the school.
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RE: Trump"s LU commencement speech
(05-12-2017 06:19 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 11:59 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 10:51 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.

I would say regardless of who it is getting a president on your campus is huge. Trump is obviously not well liked but for the president to come is something that the school can hang it's hat on. Just my opinion but I would have been excited if Obama came to my graduation, even though I was not a fan of his, because it is something very few can say.
There are benefits with a POTUS visit to a university. On this occasion, the negatives of the visit greatly outweigh the positives.

I don't know that the negatives outweigh the positives. What are the negatives? When we look back in 10 years, 20 years, etc., will anyone remember the Comey situation, or even remember his name? This is all so silly. We are having the sitting President of the United States of America as our commencement speaker. How often does that happen? Liberty is in rare air. George H.W. Bush did it at LU too and do you know what I know about the controversy that happened then? I don't know anything about any controversy at the time because people forget these things and it will be forgotten in the future. Nobody here was talking about it because people come here to talk sports, and this is basically the offseason for LU sports as the spring sports wrap up. Fans are much more interested in talking about football and basketball, of which both are not in season.
The commencement was brought into the conversation with a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule was going to be announced at the event. The negatives are that LU aligns itself with, and endorses the actions of someone who is untruthful, has admitted to groping women, chided the handicap, and likely as impending investigations may show, had connections with a foreign country whose goal is to upend the American way of life. Those are strong detrimental factors. As I have stated twice before, there are benefits of a POTUS being affiliated with LU. The question is does the school give a carte blanche to a sitting Prez because he simply is the Prez without considering the morality, when his morality has been challenged. If this post had been on another site, views expressed by many would support this position who are rational, logical thinking individuals and not the known LU naysayers who we know would bash LU.

It will be interesting to see what is the effect of Trump's visit to Lynchburg and the reception he receives from the school as well as those contesting his visit. That may be our best barometer of how people feel.
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(05-12-2017 10:03 PM)SENOREIDA Wrote:  
(05-12-2017 08:30 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  I was hoping some other would post a comment about Trump and his upcoming commencement speech on May 13th at LU and the impact it will have. My guess since no one has made a post, most feel it is a regrettable choice.

JFJr, like Sr. seems unable not to be tempted to bring LU into the political fray. With the Washington Post* reporting yesterday, http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017...ech-to-f/, that protest are planned at LU, and a Sea of Red stating the FBS schedule will be released at the same time, we get a mesh of sports and politics literally on the same stage. Granted one point can be made that anytime a sitting POTUS comes to LU there will be a benefit. And on the opposite side, one can state what a truly stupid action it is. Some where between the two extremes is the reality.

Question 1. Why would JFJr. choose to ally himself with Trump with his groping of women comment, his mocking of the disabled, and now the statement of FBI Director Comey being fired to stop the investigation of White House interference?

Question 2. And as a supporter of LU athletics, why would the announcement of the FBS schedule, which is a very big deal. Maybe even one of the top and most important announcements regarding LU football, be at the same event that is now a political firecracker?

One can say the invitation was made prior to the current firestorm. The point can also be made that one could expect a controversy surrounding Trump as controversies have followed him since his announcement as a candidate for the Republican Party.

It's crazy actions and choices like this by Jr. and Sr. that have alienated many against LU. It divides rather than unites. In many ways it's the exact opposite of what "the mission" that is stated in LU's slogan. It's another example of how being a LU fan causes one to run the gamut from excitement and joy when achieving FBS to truly wonderment and unbelievability with the Trump alignment.

LU is very fortunate to have received an indy bid. It is a very small band of LU peers who would want to in bed with LU on this one as one who shares agreement in Trump's actions, beliefs and falsehoods. And combining the Trump speech with the FBS schedule announcement, LU is not only in the bed with Trump, but now under the sheets together.

*NOTE: The link was from the Washington Times, not the Washington Post.
1) Why would JFJr choose to ally himself with a person who has covered up and enabled rapes on college campuses?

2) Because Jr loves attention, when's a better time to tell the world you guys got a waiver then when you have a sitting president speak on your campus?
The answer to why LU would hire an AD with questionable ethics is likely money and JFJr quest to have the school become FBS. It is a questionable action especially with the reported problems the AD encountered and supposedly turned a blind eye toward reporting the incidents.

Regarding LU receiving the indy status, it again about money. The NCAA would have lost to LU in a lengthy court challenge and the status quo invite rule would have been severely weakened. LU, like any school that meets the requirement, and does not receive an invite, should be able to petition and receive indy status, as any other school seeking FBS admission. It's not LU wanting to "...tell the world you guys got a waiver then when you have a sitting president speak on your campus." That is already well known with all the media surrounding it.
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RE: Trump"s LU commencement speech
Just watched Trump's commencement speech on CBSN. Interesting that Trump announced who the upcoming FBS teams would be that would be on LU's schedule. Sly and Sea of Red were correct in their pre-announcements who LU would be playing.
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RE: Trump"s LU commencement speech
Damn, as a neutral third party observer, I am shocked people here are not enthused to have the President of the United States giving a commencement address.

Secondly, Liberty University has been involved in politics for years. Embrace it. I have never been on your campus, but I respect your University for what it stands for.

Now win some football games! I will be rooting for you.
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