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RE: ESPN : How the AAC became a launching pad for Power 5 coaches
How much of Rhule's Salary is bribe money to deal with a program under Sexual Assault investigation?

The salary isn't the end-all, be-all of how prestigious a school is.
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RE: ESPN : How the AAC became a launching pad for Power 5 coaches
(05-09-2017 01:23 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(05-09-2017 12:45 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(05-09-2017 12:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Baylor pays twice as much as VT

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this. Fuente made 3.2M his first year at VT. Only a marginal bump if any at all from most of AAC. VT is like a WVU, Maryland type school. More on the field success in the 2000s but overall not an elite football school.

Are you implying that Baylor is an elite school?

Can anyone tally up their record before RG3 and Art Briles?

Baylor is a waist of time.
05-09-2017 04:58 PM
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RE: ESPN : How the AAC became a launching pad for Power 5 coaches
(05-09-2017 01:23 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(05-09-2017 12:45 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(05-09-2017 12:43 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Baylor pays twice as much as VT

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this. Fuente made 3.2M his first year at VT. Only a marginal bump if any at all from most of AAC. VT is like a WVU, Maryland type school. More on the field success in the 2000s but overall not an elite football school.

Are you implying that Baylor is an elite school?

Can anyone tally up their record before RG3 and Art Briles?

516-515-44 (alltime without Briles and 2016 under Grobe)

65-36-0 under Briles
7-6-0 under Grobe
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RE: ESPN : How the AAC became a launching pad for Power 5 coaches
(05-09-2017 03:43 PM)pesik Wrote:  money isnt as big of deal as some of your portray....every single team will pay for an elite level coach...you can see it basketball...greg marshall gets paid an obscene amount....if you establish something we will pay...we were willing to offer 3mil to herman in just his second year

playoff access isnt as big of a deal as some portray, but it s a big factor..Herman truly believed that if he went undefeated last year he would have been in the playoff..there are numerous rants he has made about it

to me the biggest factor is perception...we have a perception of spring board league, there's no perception that the legendary coaches come and finish in the AAC.
ill use chad morris as a an example...from the get go him and tom herman were pitted against each other about who is the better coach..herman is now at texas, if he turns smu around he is not going to want to stay at smu, when his peers have moved on to "bigger things", while he's still in the AAC (all the coaches that came in with him are gone).

there is already a precedent set in basketball that you can be great without having to go to big school, that isnt there in football..

for it to change there has to be a coach that is considered elite willing to stay, that can be argued as one of the best in the game. someone to set an example (with his greatness established in the AAC, not retread). right now everyone leaves when they are good. none one wants to be left behind.. they need an example

Football needs a salary cap... If that's done, we'll see football HC's remain with their current program rather than wait for a crazy million or two bump before consider jumping.
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(05-09-2017 10:23 AM)mlb Wrote:  I think it is less about money and more about access to the playoff. If the AAC had a legit shot to be in the playoff then there would be less turnover.

If the AAC had playoff access, most of our problems would be minimized. We would get better recruits which would result in even more competitive teams as good as most P5 schools other than true elite programs.

Playoff access would validate the league and everything else would follow.
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The coaching salaries back that up. Houston bumped Herman to $3 million after a 2015 season that ended with a Peach Bowl championship. Cincinnati's Luke Fickell, a first-time head coach, signed a six-year deal that will pay him an average of $2.23 million annually, slightly more than what predecessor Tommy Tuberville received ($2.2 million). In December, SMU coach Chad Morris, who earns about $2 million annually, agreed to a contract extension through 2023. Last week, UCF raised coach Scott Frost's salary to $2 million as part of a short extension.
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While it's nice to say that UCF raised Coach Frost's salary or SMU is handsomely paying Morris while he rebuilds the program, it's not realistic to think that any of this will keep Frost, Morris, etc from leaving. For example, USF offered to match Oregon's salary ...per Taggart himself...and significantly increase his assistant pool. It didn't matter. Similarly, Rhule and Herman were both offered more money to stay and both bolted for higher profile programs.

For these coaches, they have no worry about financial security as they will get paid well wherever they coach. Instead what drives them is coaching at the highest level for meaningful championships. Until the AAC has legit access to the playoffs we will continue to lose talented coaches. Hopefully the allure of coaching in up-and-coming conference that provides opportunity to P5 jobs will keep good coaches coming into the league. Plus for us fans, if a coach leaves for a "better" job...its usually b/c he has done a good job for our respective program.

For example, while most Bulls fans were not happy that Taggart left and how he poached some recruits on his way out, nobody should be complaining as he completely turned around this program, players are graduating and Bulls fans are once again proud of their program. That he last three years....I think we will all have to deal with this moving forward.
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