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Article: UTC to Sun Belt? Would ETSU follow?
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sport...ok/426797/

The OVC part of this is just a smoke screen. UTC is trying to move up and I have a feeling ETSU is trying to do the same.
05-08-2017 12:42 PM
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RE: Article: UTC to Sun Belt? Would ETSU follow?
Please.....no.

7k seat stadium won't work in the Belt.
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05-08-2017 01:28 PM
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RE: Article: UTC to Sun Belt? Would ETSU follow?
Could an eastern division look like --- App State, Chatt., Coastal, ETSU, Ga Southern, Ga State, Troy?


The home attendance numbers (below) look decent, the record against the big boys indecent:


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Sun...all_season
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Basketball drives the bus at ETSU. Stay in the SoCon until a better conference opportunity comes along. Unless you want the short drive to New Orleans for the basketball tournament....and BTW screw UTC.
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RE: Article: UTC to Sun Belt? Would ETSU follow?
Any move on ETSU's end requires doubling the seating capacity, at least. It's coming, articles like this don't just come out, and I'd be willing to bet ETSU/UTC are a package deal.
If JMU, EKU, Jacksonville State, and Kennesaw State are serious about moving up, that's six, now all you need is Liberty as an indy and there's seven teams. Now all of a sudden you're awful close to forming a conference.
I don't know, I think it's at least 5-7 years before anything crazy happens, and we'll just have to see what the crazy is related to the ESPN bubble finally bursting.
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RE: Article: UTC to Sun Belt? Would ETSU follow?
I would be very opposed to a move to the Sun Belt. Yes, you get more money from the conference and probably more "money" football games. That is the only advantage. It puts basketball in the same shape as it was in the ASun to the average fan, but so would staying in the depleted SoCon if UTC leaves. We would also have to double the football stadium capacity, which we currently don't have anywhere close to enough fan support to justify any addition.

To me, a win-win would be for ETSU and UTC to jointly move to the OVC.
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(05-08-2017 05:19 PM)etsubuc Wrote:  I would be very opposed to a move to the Sun Belt. Yes, you get more money from the conference and probably more "money" football games. That is the only advantage. It puts basketball in the same shape as it was in the ASun to the average fan, but so would staying in the depleted SoCon if UTC leaves. We would also have to double the football stadium capacity, which we currently don't have anywhere close to enough fan support to justify any addition.

To me, a win-win would be for ETSU and UTC to jointly move to the OVC.

Or, the SoCon pull a raid. Go get Jacksonville State, Kennesaw State, Tenn Tech, and Eastern Kentucky.
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If there's a UTC/ETSU collaboration, then ETSU should be the one calling the shots. ETSU is the department in great shape. UTC just had their football coach plucked and attendance is declining. Their basketball coach fell backwards into another job after destroying the team in 2 years. ETSU football is rising and basketball is at the top of the pile.

The title of the story is disturbing. "Football attendance decline may lead UTC to look elsewhere"

This is a gamblers mentality. Things are going poorly, so lets double and triple our bets to make it all back up.
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(05-08-2017 06:34 PM)MercerFan Wrote:  If there's a UTC/ETSU collaboration, then ETSU should be the one calling the shots. ETSU is the department in great shape. UTC just had their football coach plucked and attendance is declining. Their basketball coach fell backwards into another job after destroying the team in 2 years. ETSU football is rising and basketball is at the top of the pile.

The title of the story is disturbing. "Football attendance decline may lead UTC to look elsewhere"

This is a gamblers mentality. Things are going poorly, so lets double and triple our bets to make it all back up.

That was my thought exactly. Your attendance is declining so you want to gamble your finances and move to a conference requiring more attendance to make ends meet? This is very reminiscent of our move to the A-sun. Increased travel costs, lack of familiar schools, doubling-down on non-revenue sports all led to huge donation drops.

Changing conferences is NOT the answer to UTC's attendance problems. School identity, marketing, and fan engagement are.

Just as a side note, what is their tailgating environment like? That seems to have led to a huge improvement in ETSU's image and game day atmosphere. The new logo has also been a help with fan identity and engagement.

All in all, it would be a huge gamble for ETSU to try this. All that being said, having the 'canes come to Johnson City or someone similar is definitely appealing....
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