I have zero problem with ULM, unlike a lot of my Cajun brethren. I want to beat them in every sport but I hold no ill will towards the Warhawks.

(05-10-2017 11:49 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  I have zero problem with ULM, unlike a lot of my Cajun brethren. I want to beat them in every sport but I hold no ill will towards the Warhawks.

neither do I, and although I quickly realized that it was not for me I nonetheless kinda enjoyed my time there, lol.
But I disagree with you about a 'lot' of Cajun fans having a real problem with ulm.....beyond some guys 'of a certain age,' on RP I don't think there is a whole lot of real animosity towards them. Although we certainly want to beat all in-state schools, of course.

(05-10-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so wait, ULM only has an athletic budget of 13 million dollars? that's crazy...you guys have got to up that student fee.

if La Tech can have a budget of 20 million, so can ULM.

Assuming you are serious, LA schools don't have student fees.

(05-10-2017 01:21 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so wait, ULM only has an athletic budget of 13 million dollars? that's crazy...you guys have got to up that student fee.

if La Tech can have a budget of 20 million, so can ULM.

Assuming you are serious, LA schools don't have student fees.

I'm 100% serious since student fees and university subsidies are a great way to boost your budget.

I had never cared to look up ULM's budget. I mean, I thought USM and La Tech had it bad with 19-20 million dollar budgets...but 13 million? wow.

we couldn't fund just football/basketball off that, let alone an entire athletic dept.

(05-10-2017 01:26 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 01:21 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 10:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  so wait, ULM only has an athletic budget of 13 million dollars? that's crazy...you guys have got to up that student fee.

if La Tech can have a budget of 20 million, so can ULM.

Assuming you are serious, LA schools don't have student fees.

I'm 100% serious since student fees and university subsidies are a great way to boost your budget.

I had never cared to look up ULM's budget. I mean, I thought USM and La Tech had it bad with 19-20 million dollar budgets...but 13 million? wow.

we couldn't fund just football/basketball off that, let alone an entire athletic dept.

I think the Cajuns budget just edged LaTech last year so we're growing. I agree student fees would help us more than all the schools except LSU due to enrollment but it's a tough sell with government already reducing higher education allocations by about half over the last five years. Some of that has been offset by allowing schools to increase tuition due to actually higher graduation rates but schools have had to close curriculum's or programs with some teacher layoffs to account for the rest. We've been fortunate as we didn't have any debt so were actually able to build new dorms and renovate old ones during that time.

The only issue I have with ULM is their inability to look within at their two large self inflicted wounds. The selling of their soul to get in the SBC and rolling over on the Indian mascot. Crippled themselves marketing wise for years. Nobody forced these decisions, they just gave up the ghost on their history. Can't go back in time, it is what it is. This more than anything lead to angry supports and lack of support. At their own hands, not the fault of anyone but their own leadership. Don't blame others or whine when Lafayette uses UL. What the heck anyone up there was going to happen, especially after ULM tired and failed first on hijacking the UL handle?

Other than that, I have friends that went there and I honestly hope they do well.

(05-10-2017 10:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  The only issue I have with ULM is their inability to look within at their two large self inflicted wounds. The selling of their soul to get in the SBC and rolling over on the Indian mascot. Crippled themselves marketing wise for years. Nobody forced these decisions, they just gave up the ghost on their history. Can't go back in time, it is what it is. This more than anything lead to angry supports and lack of support. At their own hands, not the fault of anyone but their own leadership. Don't blame others or whine when Lafayette uses UL. What the heck anyone up there was going to happen, especially after ULM tired and failed first on hijacking the UL handle?

Other than that, I have friends that went there and I honestly hope they do well.

Obviously you know absolutely nothing about the Native American nickname and the NCAA.

(05-10-2017 10:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  The only issue I have with ULM is their inability to look within at their two large self inflicted wounds. The selling of their soul to get in the SBC and rolling over on the Indian mascot. Crippled themselves marketing wise for years. Nobody forced these decisions, they just gave up the ghost on their history. Can't go back in time, it is what it is. This more than anything lead to angry supports and lack of support. At their own hands, not the fault of anyone but their own leadership. Don't blame others or whine when Lafayette uses UL. What the heck anyone up there was going to happen, especially after ULM tired and failed first on hijacking the UL handle?

Other than that, I have friends that went there and I honestly hope they do well.

NCAA made the us change mascot just like they did Arkansas State. Come on now.

Yeah, I guess it was easier to roll over and take it like a possum than fight like Florida State. Central Michigan teams are still the Chippewas. Heck, UND and their supporters and state even fought back and held the NCAA off for years. At least stAte considered fighting back. Man, a united effort just might have worked. Or changed to the Mighty Washita, Ouachita, or even Osage. Maybe could of kept the logo even.

Bottom line, it was lousy timing for NLU/ULM to have both names changed within a 6/7 year window, then fought with Lafayette for awhile over "UL". Anyone with knowledge of the 1984 name fight knew that end game and that LSU wasn't stepping into it this time. LSU got what they wanted back then, clear, lawful flagship status with tiered yet designed infighting for the rest of the state universities.

Is one of the reasons for "who I root for", the arrogance out of Baton Rouge. The well organized planting of the LSU flag in Lake Charles, Monroe and others over the years, then kicking them out the LSU system once the tiger seeds were planted in the communities since they cut into the Baton Rouge campus budget.

ULM: DOING LESS WITH LESS

UL has had a good run, time for them to realize that they lack the support to continue at FBS. If it wasn't for CenturyTel (Link) that program would have went back down to FCS a long time ago. Louisiana is facing some tough decisions, I see some consolidation in the future

(05-08-2017 03:11 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 08:22 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Everyone looks at ULMs budget and decides to bash us off of that. Well, we aren't leveraged with student fees like others in the Belt. That bubble may soon pop for them, yet we won't be affected. We actually transfer less money to athletics than the state allows, so we have money available we can utilize if need be. Lastly, we didn't swell our budget trying to attract other conferences like some others. So, as those schools who did swell their budgets now look for a way to generate alternate revenues to sustain those budgets, we are not in such a panic mode because we kept our finances in line with reality. Therefore, let's not look and ridicule, because as the chickens come home to roost for other programs, we will not be under such a crunch to make something happen when the football revenue recession hits the rest of the G5 schools.

This is like saying a turd doesn't usually stink.

Hahaha...I'm reading this as I too wonder how/why Monroe hangs on in this arms race....It's amazing to me that you can have an FBS football budget of 13 million. When they play A&M they'll be playing vs a team with 20 times the resources.

(05-11-2017 07:07 AM)Golota Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 10:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  The only issue I have with ULM is their inability to look within at their two large self inflicted wounds. The selling of their soul to get in the SBC and rolling over on the Indian mascot. Crippled themselves marketing wise for years. Nobody forced these decisions, they just gave up the ghost on their history. Can't go back in time, it is what it is. This more than anything lead to angry supports and lack of support. At their own hands, not the fault of anyone but their own leadership. Don't blame others or whine when Lafayette uses UL. What the heck anyone up there was going to happen, especially after ULM tired and failed first on hijacking the UL handle?

Other than that, I have friends that went there and I honestly hope they do well.

NCAA made the us change mascot just like they did Arkansas State. Come on now.

IMO, the change to Red Wolves was one of the best things to happen to stAte athletics.

(05-11-2017 08:56 AM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Yeah, I guess it was easier to roll over and take it like a possum than fight like Florida State. Central Michigan teams are still the Chippewas. Heck, UND and their supporters and state even fought back and held the NCAA off for years. At least stAte considered fighting back. Man, a united effort just might have worked. Or changed to the Mighty Washita, Ouachita, or even Osage. Maybe could of kept the logo even.

Bottom line, it was lousy timing for NLU/ULM to have both names changed within a 6/7 year window, then fought with Lafayette for awhile over "UL". Anyone with knowledge of the 1984 name fight knew that end game and that LSU wasn't stepping into it this time. LSU got what they wanted back then, clear, lawful flagship status with tiered yet designed infighting for the rest of the state universities.

Is one of the reasons for "who I root for", the arrogance out of Baton Rouge. The well organized planting of the LSU flag in Lake Charles, Monroe and others over the years, then kicking them out the LSU system once the tiger seeds were planted in the communities since they cut into the Baton Rouge campus budget.

Yes they kept their names because of specific tribe vs "Indian". No it wouldn't have worked to keep Indians that's why AState lost as well.

(05-10-2017 10:49 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  The only issue I have with ULM is their inability to look within at their two large self inflicted wounds. The selling of their soul to get in the SBC and rolling over on the Indian mascot. Crippled themselves marketing wise for years. Nobody forced these decisions, they just gave up the ghost on their history. Can't go back in time, it is what it is. This more than anything lead to angry supports and lack of support. At their own hands, not the fault of anyone but their own leadership. Don't blame others or whine when Lafayette uses UL. What the heck anyone up there was going to happen, especially after ULM tired and failed first on hijacking the UL handle?

Other than that, I have friends that went there and I honestly hope they do well.

you went full retard...

(05-11-2017 09:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 03:11 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 08:22 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Everyone looks at ULMs budget and decides to bash us off of that. Well, we aren't leveraged with student fees like others in the Belt. That bubble may soon pop for them, yet we won't be affected. We actually transfer less money to athletics than the state allows, so we have money available we can utilize if need be. Lastly, we didn't swell our budget trying to attract other conferences like some others. So, as those schools who did swell their budgets now look for a way to generate alternate revenues to sustain those budgets, we are not in such a panic mode because we kept our finances in line with reality. Therefore, let's not look and ridicule, because as the chickens come home to roost for other programs, we will not be under such a crunch to make something happen when the football revenue recession hits the rest of the G5 schools.

This is like saying a turd doesn't usually stink.

Hahaha...I'm reading this as I too wonder how/why Monroe hangs on in this arms race....It's amazing to me that you can have an FBS football budget of 13 million. When they play A&M they'll be playing vs a team with 20 times the resources.

Yep and we hung in there and almost beat them two years ago. Todd Berry went conservative and let them come back scrape out a win. Our budget is low but somehow we can still win games against team. What does that say about the teams we actually beat?

(05-11-2017 11:37 AM)Golota Wrote:  

(05-11-2017 09:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 03:11 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 08:22 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Everyone looks at ULMs budget and decides to bash us off of that. Well, we aren't leveraged with student fees like others in the Belt. That bubble may soon pop for them, yet we won't be affected. We actually transfer less money to athletics than the state allows, so we have money available we can utilize if need be. Lastly, we didn't swell our budget trying to attract other conferences like some others. So, as those schools who did swell their budgets now look for a way to generate alternate revenues to sustain those budgets, we are not in such a panic mode because we kept our finances in line with reality. Therefore, let's not look and ridicule, because as the chickens come home to roost for other programs, we will not be under such a crunch to make something happen when the football revenue recession hits the rest of the G5 schools.

This is like saying a turd doesn't usually stink.

Hahaha...I'm reading this as I too wonder how/why Monroe hangs on in this arms race....It's amazing to me that you can have an FBS football budget of 13 million. When they play A&M they'll be playing vs a team with 20 times the resources.

Yep and we hung in there and almost beat them two years ago. Todd Berry went conservative and let them come back scrape out a win. Our budget is low but somehow we can still win games against team. What does that say about the teams we actually beat?

While I have nothing against ULM, facts are facts, and the fact that you have such a tiny budget is an undeniable one. And it does not seem that that will be improving anytime in the next 3-5 years. And survivability with such low numbers seems dubious at best.

You guys all want to talk budgets, ULM has had a small budget for years and it hasn't kept them from wins on the field. Have they won championships, maybe not, but last time I checked I have never seen "Budget" on the back of a jersey.

Budgets help with recruiting, because with a larger budget you might have nicer facilities. But once you run out on the field, budgets no longer matter. You have to execute, and win the game, no matter what your budget is.

As an SBC member, ULM has some of the bigger wins for the conference, against SEC competition, that had much larger budgets then ULM.

(05-11-2017 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  You guys all want to talk budgets, ULM has had a small budget for years and it hasn't kept them from wins on the field. Have they won championships, maybe not, but last time I checked I have never seen "Budget" on the back of a jersey.

Budgets help with recruiting, because with a larger budget you might have nicer facilities. But once you run out on the field, budgets no longer matter. You have to execute, and win the game, no matter what your budget is.

As an SBC member, ULM has some of the bigger wins for the conference, against SEC competition, that had much larger budgets then ULM.

Very true. I'll be happy to compare P5 wins with any of you.