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Will The Summit League be reformed as a Northern League??
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RE: Will The Summit League be reformed as a Northern League??
The Dakota 4, Omaha, and U of Denver are a solid core.

Almost zero percent chance that EWU, Idaho, and Montana's leave the Big Sky to join up with that core, or that core is invited to join the Big Sky. They just begged UND to leave, after that failed experiment!


So what's a more realistic, and better scenario, to get to at least eight teams around that core?

1) no-brainer: get UMKC back, to pair with Omaha.

2) it would be nice to get a travel partner for Denver.

Who are the possible (though not necessarily likely) candidates?

- No Colorado is an obvious one. Lots of history with the Dakota schools from the old DII NCC conf. Not too far from Denver (though not right next door)
- Metro State is a DII school in Denver. However, I think the political and financial reality for this school means this is probably impossible
- Colorado College is a DIII private school in Colorado Springs, about an hour south of Denver. This suggestion is really just from the perspective that it would be great to have as many NCHC hockey programs together under the Summit banner, so they can really foster competition and rivalry with each other in multiple sports. Probably also not realistic, though CC does have a largish endowment. The transition time would be eight years before it could move from DII to DI, since it would be coming from outside DII.

3) expansion into Minnesota

The obvious candidates are the NCHC schools in the state: Duluth and St Cloud. Both are already DII, so no eight year period. Both could follow the precedent set by Omaha to move from DII to DI.



So what about the other four teams currently in the Summit?

- Fort Wayne and IU-Indy I would suggest for the Horizon League
- WIU, probably stay in the MVFC and see if it can get into the OVC for non-football
- Oral Roberts, don't care
(This post was last modified: 05-07-2017 11:10 AM by MplsBison.)
05-07-2017 11:08 AM
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RE: Will The Summit League be reformed as a Northern League??
If the Summit lost one Northern Colorado makes sense . As a travel partner for Denver unless Denver objects.

Losing just the Indiana schools might be enough to get the BSC schools to switch.
The Summit would still have eight highly ranked schools.
Taking the top three BSC schools plus EWU (good football).
Making the conference less directional comparable to the MWC.
Both would be good with a few directional/city schools that are regionally ranked.

Big Sky would have seven nine in football.
Seattle would be a good pick up or CSBU .
Travel might be better if the right schools are added.
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Personally, I'd love a MAC-style FBS conference made up of the Dakotas, Montanas and Idaho, but I get the impression that the Dakotas are more interested in looking east and south than west, the Montanas are proven cowards, and our president is a *******. So I don't see how this gets traction.
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RE: Will The Summit League be reformed as a Northern League??
I don't think the Summit is attractive to the Montanas and Idaho.

I think the Summit's future is as a northern league but not a northern league that stretches to the Pacific Northwest.

When the next member departs the Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver will hold a super majority and be able to guide the future of the league. I see future members being schools like Minn St Mankato, Minn-Duluth, St Cloud St, N Colorado, and UMKC.

If there is a dramatic change among the Montanas and Idaho I would expect something more along the lines of the Northern Big Sky schools seperating from the less prestigious southern ones.
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The perfect school for this is Wyoming. They would drop football out of spite before doing it but they would fit all sports very well. The other that would work well and balance out Denver is Air Force Olympics if football went to the American.
05-07-2017 01:38 PM
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RE: Will The Summit League be reformed as a Northern League??
The only way these schools would ever get on the same page is if for some reason they wanted to play FBS football.

But this conference makes a lot of sense, the west could use a MAC level conference.
05-07-2017 02:14 PM
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(05-07-2017 02:14 PM)NDBison Wrote:  The only way these schools would ever get on the same page is if for some reason they wanted to play FBS football.

But this conference makes a lot of sense, the west could use a MAC level conference.

I'd like to see another FBS conference in the west but I don't think that there is a clear path to create a new conference.
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(05-07-2017 01:27 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I don't think the Summit is attractive to the Montanas and Idaho.

I think the Summit's future is as a northern league but not a northern league that stretches to the Pacific Northwest.

When the next member departs the Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver will hold a super majority and be able to guide the future of the league. I see future members being schools like Minn St Mankato, Minn-Duluth, St Cloud St, N Colorado, and UMKC.

If there is a dramatic change among the Montanas and Idaho I would expect something more along the lines of the Northern Big Sky schools seperating from the less prestigious southern ones.
It would take a pretty serious change in direction, but the Summit League could take over the NCHC. Adding Minnesota-Duluth and Saint Cloud State would give the Summit five for hockey. Colorado College would have no other option but to follow as a hockey-only member. Western Michigan and Miami would probably fall in line as well. The Minnesota schools could drop football and add men's soccer as part of their Division I transition. The schools that have baseball would be under no obligation to continue sponsoring that sport as well.
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RE: Will The Summit League be reformed as a Northern League??
(05-07-2017 02:52 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(05-07-2017 01:27 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I don't think the Summit is attractive to the Montanas and Idaho.

I think the Summit's future is as a northern league but not a northern league that stretches to the Pacific Northwest.

When the next member departs the Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver will hold a super majority and be able to guide the future of the league. I see future members being schools like Minn St Mankato, Minn-Duluth, St Cloud St, N Colorado, and UMKC.

If there is a dramatic change among the Montanas and Idaho I would expect something more along the lines of the Northern Big Sky schools seperating from the less prestigious southern ones.
It would take a pretty serious change in direction, but the Summit League could take over the NCHC. Adding Minnesota-Duluth and Saint Cloud State would give the Summit five for hockey. Colorado College would have no other option but to follow as a hockey-only member. Western Michigan and Miami would probably fall in line as well. The Minnesota schools could drop football and add men's soccer as part of their Division I transition. The schools that have baseball would be under no obligation to continue sponsoring that sport as well.

I agree. Taking over the NCHC should be a goal of the Summit going forward and I think the 3 current hockey schools will use the power of their votes to achieve it. I guess the big question is would the Minnesota hockey schools be able to bring their football up to FCS?
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Lol. More Fantasy from NoDak
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