(05-13-2017 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote:  Liberty stadium expansion

25K in the next few years.

Other reports show incremental plans to 30K and 36K, with potential built-in to the plans for 60K seats.

Plenty of BYU fans in Virginia and surrounding area, so hopefully Liberty does expand the stadium to at least the 25K capacity by 2021 or 2022 (whenever BYU is scheduled to visit).

On pure speculation and gut feeling, knowing the school and their attitude toward achieving FBS success early, and with a school Prez who is fully supportive of the athletic dept., a safe bet would say when BYU comes to Lynchburg the stadium will be closer to 35,000 than 25,000.

(05-12-2017 10:11 AM)YNot Wrote:  http://www.aseaofred.com/2018-schedule-t...-saturday/

Liberty is playing at BYU in 2019 - that likely finishes out BYU's 2019 schedul.

Army is to make a return road trip AT Liberty in 2021...

Army got a 2 for 1 with Liberty.

BYU got a H&H with Liberty.

(05-13-2017 02:47 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote:  Liberty stadium expansion

25K in the next few years.

Other reports show incremental plans to 30K and 36K, with potential built-in to the plans for 60K seats.

Plenty of BYU fans in Virginia and surrounding area, so hopefully Liberty does expand the stadium to at least the 25K capacity by 2021 or 2022 (whenever BYU is scheduled to visit).

On pure speculation and gut feeling, knowing the school and their attitude toward achieving FBS success early, and with a school Prez who is fully supportive of the athletic dept., a safe bet would say when BYU comes to Lynchburg the stadium will be closer to 35,000 than 25,000.

I'll take that bet. Liberty won't have a 35k stadium in 2022 when BYU comes to town.

Jerry Falwell Jr has already publicly stated that construction drawings for an expanded 35,000 seat stadium have already been completed. They have the cash on hand so they don't need to go through a slow funding process. The City of Lynchburg simply needs to approve the permits and they are off to the races.


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(05-13-2017 02:55 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:47 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote:  Liberty stadium expansion

25K in the next few years.

Other reports show incremental plans to 30K and 36K, with potential built-in to the plans for 60K seats.

Plenty of BYU fans in Virginia and surrounding area, so hopefully Liberty does expand the stadium to at least the 25K capacity by 2021 or 2022 (whenever BYU is scheduled to visit).

On pure speculation and gut feeling, knowing the school and their attitude toward achieving FBS success early, and with a school Prez who is fully supportive of the athletic dept., a safe bet would say when BYU comes to Lynchburg the stadium will be closer to 35,000 than 25,000.

I'll take that bet. Liberty won't have a 35k stadium in 2022 when BYU comes to town.

Ok BB, whatcha wanna wager? And can you share why you don't agree?

I bet some James Madison fans are LIVID!!

(05-13-2017 04:01 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  I bet some James Madison fans are LIVID!!

I also thought JMU fans would be sulking. I did check out their schedule for 2018 and it is a challenging schedule, for FCS <grin>.

(05-13-2017 03:55 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:55 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:47 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote:  Liberty stadium expansion

25K in the next few years.

Other reports show incremental plans to 30K and 36K, with potential built-in to the plans for 60K seats.

Plenty of BYU fans in Virginia and surrounding area, so hopefully Liberty does expand the stadium to at least the 25K capacity by 2021 or 2022 (whenever BYU is scheduled to visit).

On pure speculation and gut feeling, knowing the school and their attitude toward achieving FBS success early, and with a school Prez who is fully supportive of the athletic dept., a safe bet would say when BYU comes to Lynchburg the stadium will be closer to 35,000 than 25,000.

I'll take that bet. Liberty won't have a 35k stadium in 2022 when BYU comes to town.

Ok BB, whatcha wanna wager? And can you share why you don't agree?

Because a jump from where their at to 35,000 in 5 years is way too fast. 17k right now?

(05-13-2017 02:00 PM)f1do Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 01:48 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  This is what BYU had in mind when going Independent?

To be playing road games @ Liberty within a decade or so?

Sure, what's wrong with that. BYU's schedule that year already includes games @ Utah, @ Oregon, USF, @ Boise State, @ Stanford, and Baylor. Adding a game @ Liberty is consistent with playing a national schedule (the only trip back east that year) and helps to balance the schedule out a bit.

BYU's national schedule includes these trips beyond Utah and neighboring states:
2017: LSU (in Houston), @ Mississippi St, @ East Carolina, @ Fresno St, @ Hawaii
2018: @ Wisconsin, @ Washington, @ UMass
2019: @ Tennessee, @ Toledo, @ Washington St, @ UMass, @ SDSU
2020: @ Minnesota, @ Northern Illinois, @ Stanford
2021: @ USF, @ Baylor, @ USC
2022: @ Oregon, @ Liberty, @ Stanford
2023: @ Virginia, @ USC

BYU's 2022 schedule has 5 road games scheduled and 1 home game scheduled. Baylor hasn't been officially put on the schedule, but has agreed to play at BYU in 2022 as game 2 of a H&H.

BYU 2022: @Utah 9/3, @Oregon 9/17, USF Friday 9/23, @Boise 10/8, @Liberty 10/22, @Stanford 11/26. Baylor, no date/time yet. 5 road, 2 home.

(05-13-2017 05:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 03:55 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:55 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:47 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:38 PM)YNot Wrote:  Liberty stadium expansion

25K in the next few years.

Other reports show incremental plans to 30K and 36K, with potential built-in to the plans for 60K seats.

Plenty of BYU fans in Virginia and surrounding area, so hopefully Liberty does expand the stadium to at least the 25K capacity by 2021 or 2022 (whenever BYU is scheduled to visit).

On pure speculation and gut feeling, knowing the school and their attitude toward achieving FBS success early, and with a school Prez who is fully supportive of the athletic dept., a safe bet would say when BYU comes to Lynchburg the stadium will be closer to 35,000 than 25,000.

I'll take that bet. Liberty won't have a 35k stadium in 2022 when BYU comes to town.

Ok BB, whatcha wanna wager? And can you share why you don't agree?

Because a jump from where their at to 35,000 in 5 years is way too fast. 17k right now?

19,200 at present. True it is a big jump, but so is going indy in 2017. One does have to say that LU thinks big, thinks outside of the box, and is committed to developing their athletic program. My guess is they will want to approach 35k to help attract higher profile schools.

(05-13-2017 02:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 10:11 AM)YNot Wrote:  http://www.aseaofred.com/2018-schedule-t...-saturday/

Liberty is playing at BYU in 2019 - that likely finishes out BYU's 2019 schedul.

Army is to make a return road trip AT Liberty in 2021...

Army got a 2 for 1 with Liberty.

BYU got a H&H with Liberty.

Actually Army looks like a 4 game H/H series: http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/05/liber...opponents/

(05-13-2017 03:54 PM)ODU1986 Wrote:  Jerry Falwell Jr has already publicly stated that construction drawings for an expanded 35,000 seat stadium have already been completed. They have the cash on hand so they don't need to go through a slow funding process. The City of Lynchburg simply needs to approve the permits and they are off to the races.


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And a piggy back to that, the City of Lynchburg granted LU and the other local colleges, an easier permitting process for new construction as LU, with it's rapid growth was being stymied and delayed with the regulatory process. Paraphrasing, it gives colleges a blanket approval subject to the city reviewing and signing off I believe is the city's new policy.

(05-12-2017 03:57 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Are there any chances the donors at Idaho leverage their administration into cancelling the FCS move and jumping onboard the Independent scheduling alliance?

Idaho could do double up deals with NMSU and/or Liberty. They really only need 5 home games and one can be FCS. NMSU and Liberty get them half way there.

If anyone else follows the trail that Liberty blazed from FCS to FBS things will only get easier for the Vandals.

It gets really easy if you can convince NMSU and LU to play charity and travel to Idaho for what amounts to pocket lint. Not something LU probably has in mind and likely not something NMSU can really afford to do.

(05-13-2017 06:48 PM)f1do Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:52 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 10:11 AM)YNot Wrote:  http://www.aseaofred.com/2018-schedule-t...-saturday/

Liberty is playing at BYU in 2019 - that likely finishes out BYU's 2019 schedul.

Army is to make a return road trip AT Liberty in 2021...

Army got a 2 for 1 with Liberty.

BYU got a H&H with Liberty.

Actually Army looks like a 4 game H/H series: http://www.fbschedules.com/2017/05/liber...opponents/

You are correct. I should have waited until I saw the return game. Liberty makes sense for Army though. Army doesn't want to be a power school like BYU does. Army wants winnable games vs G5 teams in the East.. I remember BYU fans predicting that Army would schedule BYU regularly when you went Indy. Nope. Haven't scheduled BYU yet and probably never will.

(05-13-2017 05:43 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 05:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 03:55 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:55 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 02:47 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  On pure speculation and gut feeling, knowing the school and their attitude toward achieving FBS success early, and with a school Prez who is fully supportive of the athletic dept., a safe bet would say when BYU comes to Lynchburg the stadium will be closer to 35,000 than 25,000.

I'll take that bet. Liberty won't have a 35k stadium in 2022 when BYU comes to town.

Ok BB, whatcha wanna wager? And can you share why you don't agree?

Because a jump from where their at to 35,000 in 5 years is way too fast. 17k right now?

19,200 at present. True it is a big jump, but so is going indy in 2017. One does have to say that LU thinks big, thinks outside of the box, and is committed to developing their athletic program. My guess is they will want to approach 35k to help attract higher profile schools.

I think 35,000 is a pretty big jump by 2021. I won't bet you, I don't want to look like I'm hating on Liberty. I wish you guys luck at FBS. I think there's too many FBS teams in Virginia and North Carolina (11) but that doesn't mean I'm rooting against you guys. In a way Im impressed with how you guys have made this work. Good for you guys!

Not sure but I believe the plan is for 35,000 by 2018, in time for ODU. Construction to begin the second the 2017 season ends. New upper deck on the student side, more club seating. An endzone wrap for the south end zone with a visitors locker room under it, club sports offices above it. Construction cranes and crews seem to be a permanent fixture on the LU campus.

(05-13-2017 10:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  You are correct. I should have waited until I saw the return game. Liberty makes sense for Army though. Army doesn't want to be a power school like BYU does. Army wants winnable games vs G5 teams in the East.. I remember BYU fans predicting that Army would schedule BYU regularly when you went Indy. Nope. Haven't scheduled BYU yet and probably never will.

I know you are really working hard for a dig on BYU for some reason (not sure why, though your persistence seems to indicate it is personal...). I'm not going to take responsibility for or feel bad that what some BYU fan predicted hasn't happened but can confirm that BYU's AD has expressed several times since going independent that he would love a series against any of the 3 military academies.
Air Force makes a lot of sense due to their proximity to BYU. However, they play 8 MWC games as well as Army, Navy, and a FCS game each year. That means they have 1 OOC game they can do things with and usually pick a low level G5 team to ensure bowl eligibility. And they are part of the front range bloc (also Wyoming, CSU, New Mexico) who claimed they wouldn't schedule BYU for leaving the conference.
Navy has a similar issue due to being a member of the AAC along with Air Force, Army, and Notre Dame as fixtures on the schedule--even though they do have contacts with Niumatalolo (who briefly was considered for the BYU HC job).
Army has never played BYU in their history and to my knowledge there aren't any contacts or relationships there.
Holmoe did try and get creative on an event--offering to play on foreign soil near military bases, but there were no bites there.
My opinion is meh regarding playing the academies. They tend to have much smaller athletes on the line and need to resort to cut blocking and stuff like that and run the option exclusively so require completely different game preparation. Not having them on the schedule doesn't bother me at all.

TV rights may also play a part in it. If BYU schedules a home-and-home with Army, CBS has the game in West Point and the four-letter network had the game in Provo. If BYU schedules UConn, the four-letter network has both games.

(05-14-2017 09:48 AM)f1do Wrote:  

(05-13-2017 10:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  You are correct. I should have waited until I saw the return game. Liberty makes sense for Army though. Army doesn't want to be a power school like BYU does. Army wants winnable games vs G5 teams in the East.. I remember BYU fans predicting that Army would schedule BYU regularly when you went Indy. Nope. Haven't scheduled BYU yet and probably never will.

I know you are really working hard for a dig on BYU for some reason (not sure why, though your persistence seems to indicate it is personal...). I'm not going to take responsibility for or feel bad that what some BYU fan predicted hasn't happened but can confirm that BYU's AD has expressed several times since going independent that he would love a series against any of the 3 military academies.
Air Force makes a lot of sense due to their proximity to BYU. However, they play 8 MWC games as well as Army, Navy, and a FCS game each year. That means they have 1 OOC game they can do things with and usually pick a low level G5 team to ensure bowl eligibility. And they are part of the front range bloc (also Wyoming, CSU, New Mexico) who claimed they wouldn't schedule BYU for leaving the conference.
Navy has a similar issue due to being a member of the AAC along with Air Force, Army, and Notre Dame as fixtures on the schedule--even though they do have contacts with Niumatalolo (who briefly was considered for the BYU HC job).
Army has never played BYU in their history and to my knowledge there aren't any contacts or relationships there.
Holmoe did try and get creative on an event--offering to play on foreign soil near military bases, but there were no bites there.
My opinion is meh regarding playing the academies. They tend to have much smaller athletes on the line and need to resort to cut blocking and stuff like that and run the option exclusively so require completely different game preparation. Not having them on the schedule doesn't bother me at all.

My response was to you for doing the mocking icons to me for saying Army had a 1 and done with Liberty. When I made the post there was one game made public. After the rest of the Army series came to light you had to make the snarky "rub in" correction. Also, earlier in the thread a BYU poster said it was 1 and done for BYU or a 2 for 1 for BYU. I do agree with you on the the cut blocking...I hate it when ECU plays Navy for that very reason.

(05-12-2017 10:11 AM)YNot Wrote:  http://www.aseaofred.com/2018-schedule-t...-saturday/

Liberty is playing at BYU in 2019 - that likely finishes out BYU's 2019 schedul.

Army is to make a return road trip AT Liberty in 2021...

My response was also because of this post saying BYU got a 1 and done with Liberty and Army plays "AT" Liberty.