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Nick Saban wasn't the only one getting a raise Tuesday.

Each of his returning assistants got a pay bump

The headliner of these contracts outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi. Returning for a third season in that role, Lupoi's pay will jump to $950,000 from $550,000.

In total, Alabama's nine on-field assistants will make $5.995 million in 2017. That's $666,111 per coach on average.
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Free market economy, or a serious problem with priorities?
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Hasn't coach K made $9 million ish for a while.

You only hear about 'too much' when it is about football....never bball.
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The University of Kentucky is getting a $1.8 million a year bump, after 44 years they have sold the naming rights to Commonwealth Stadium. It will now be called Kroger Field. They are the first SEC team to go corporate.
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(05-02-2017 12:00 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Free market economy, or a serious problem with priorities?

It's good for the school. It funds the school, raises awareness, and it improves student life.

The coaches are probably paid what they're worth in terms of the value that the create for the school - as they should be.

But it's crazy to me that society values Alabama college football THAT much. IMHO, there is a serious problem w/ priorities on a social level. My belief is further evidenced by the relative treatment of a number of professionals who provide a more material social good.

Put another way, the "who needs teachers when we have football coaches" sentiment is a problem.
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University trustees on Tuesday approved a three-year extension through the 2024 season that could pay Saban at least $65 million over the next eight years and again make him college football’s highest-paid coach. Saban will make $11.125 million this year
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(05-02-2017 12:26 PM)nole Wrote:  Hasn't coach K made $9 million ish for a while.

That's just as messed up, if not more.

But hey, let's lay off some more firemen or teachers or something to pay for it, right? Not like what they do is as important as coaching football...
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(05-02-2017 02:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 12:26 PM)nole Wrote:  Hasn't coach K made $9 million ish for a while.

That's just as messed up, if not more.

But hey, let's lay off some more firemen or teachers or something to pay for it, right? Not like what they do is as important as coaching football...
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I am not justifying it, but find it odd he has been making that $$ for a while...no outcry, but you will hear it for a football coach.

I dont' agree with either, but let's be consistent with our outrage. And before we are too outraged, notice our university presidents, who control sports in higher ed, don't seem to give a crap. Call me when they make a move to end the madness, their actions suggest, they wont' even make small moves to do that.
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It's been long past time to have salary caps in college football.
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(05-02-2017 04:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It's been long past time to have salary caps in college football.

Aren't you Libertarian?
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(05-02-2017 02:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 12:26 PM)nole Wrote:  Hasn't coach K made $9 million ish for a while.

That's just as messed up, if not more.

But hey, let's lay off some more firemen or teachers or something to pay for it, right? Not like what they do is as important as coaching football...
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You might have a point if either the salary of the private school basketball coach or the public school football coach who works for a self-funding athletic department were paid by tax dollars but neither are.

Strawman argument is strawman
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(05-02-2017 04:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 04:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It's been long past time to have salary caps in college football.

Aren't you Libertarian?


Isn't taxation for roads still theft, but a net positive for economics and liberty?

Politics can make for strange bedfellows.
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(05-02-2017 05:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 02:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 12:26 PM)nole Wrote:  Hasn't coach K made $9 million ish for a while.

That's just as messed up, if not more.

But hey, let's lay off some more firemen or teachers or something to pay for it, right? Not like what they do is as important as coaching football...
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You might have a point if either the salary of the private school basketball coach or the public school football coach who works for a self-funding athletic department were paid by tax dollars but neither are.

Strawman argument is strawman

OK, good point. 01-ncaabbs
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(05-02-2017 06:24 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 04:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-02-2017 04:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  It's been long past time to have salary caps in college football.

Aren't you Libertarian?


Isn't taxation for roads still theft, but a net positive for economics and liberty?

Politics can make for strange bedfellows.


Nope. I voluntarily pay taxes.

I have never bitched about paying taxes in my life. I don't want to live in Somalia.

In a Republic, when we elect folks who vote in taxes, that is not theft.

The income tax amendment to the Constitution was not implemented at the point of a gun, Americans agreed with the amendment becoming enacted.
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Paying taxes is also Christian. Remember the whole "pay unto Caesar that which is Caesar's?" He was talking about paying taxes.
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(05-04-2017 08:15 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Paying taxes is also Christian. Remember the whole "pay unto Caesar that which is Caesar's?" He was talking about paying taxes.

Maybe your version/interpretation of it. Not mine. Paying taxes to a point....beyond that, it goes beyond 'what is Caesar's'. But I don't think this is the place for a political/religious discussion.
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(05-04-2017 07:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Nope. I voluntarily pay taxes.

I have never bitched about paying taxes in my life. I don't want to live in Somalia.

In a Republic, when we elect folks who vote in taxes, that is not theft.

The income tax amendment to the Constitution was not implemented at the point of a gun, Americans agreed with the amendment becoming enacted.

[Image: sonsoflibertySnake.jpg]

The Boston Tea Party was a political protest by the Sons of Liberty in Boston, on December 16, 1773. The demonstrators, some disguised as Native Americans, in defiance of the Tea Act of May 10, 1773, destroyed an entire shipment of tea sent by the East India Company. They boarded the ships and threw the chests of tea into Boston Harbor. The British government responded harshly and the episode escalated into the American Revolution.
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anti-tax fervor lit the fuse ...
why don't you & other bleeding hearts "voluntarily" fund ever-increasing government ...
I opt out ...

KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF
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(05-04-2017 09:25 AM)green Wrote:  
(05-04-2017 07:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Nope. I voluntarily pay taxes.

I have never bitched about paying taxes in my life. I don't want to live in Somalia.

In a Republic, when we elect folks who vote in taxes, that is not theft.

The income tax amendment to the Constitution was not implemented at the point of a gun, Americans agreed with the amendment becoming enacted.

[Image: sonsoflibertySnake.jpg]

The Boston Tea Party was a political protest by the Sons of Liberty in Boston, on December 16, 1773. The demonstrators, some disguised as Native Americans, in defiance of the Tea Act of May 10, 1773, destroyed an entire shipment of tea sent by the East India Company. They boarded the ships and threw the chests of tea into Boston Harbor. The British government responded harshly and the episode escalated into the American Revolution.
-- wiki

anti-tax fervor lit the fuse ...
why don't you & other bleeding hearts "voluntarily" fund ever-increasing government ...
I opt out ...

KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF

The Boston Tea Party was organized by a bunch of smugglers, criminals in other words.

DUMP THE TEA PARTY
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This thread really should go in the Spin Room, and I won't cry one bit if it does wind up there. That being said, yes, the Boston Tea Party was organized by a bunch of smugglers. However, they were fighting a company that, IMO, is/was very, eerily similar to Walmart, a retail store well-known for putting "mom & pop" stores out of business. The East India Company threatened to do just that in the Thirteen Colonies. To combat the East India Company, the colonial merchants banded together and staged the Boston Tea Party. Had the East India Company been located in the Thirteen Colonies, much swifter action would have been brought against the colonial merchants & smugglers, IMO, because the colonial governors made sure to maintain order in the Thirteen Colonies, for the most part. However, seeing how the East India Company was a foreign monopoly and was threatening local jobs & money collected for local taxes, the colonial governors just turned a blind eye toward such events as the Boston Tea Party, IMO.

The colonists of the Thirteen Colonies were fighting against taxation without representation, not taxation itself. The Thirteen Colonies had no voice in Parliament whatsoever, neither did they want a voice in Parliament. They considered their colonial legislatures to be their equivalent of Parliament, not the official Parliament in London. However, the colonists still claimed King George III to be their king, up until Battles of Lexington & Concord. When King George III sent troops to enforce Parliament's unpopular laws, the colonists considered that as King George III either stepping down from his position with the colonies, or committing treason against the colonies. It was because of this action, that the Thirteen Colonies declared their independence from Great Britain.

After the Thirteen Colonies won their independence, and then signed the Constitution of the United States of America, the U.S. Congress enacted a tax on whiskey. A group of farmers in western Pennsylvania revolted against the tax, and I want to say, they tarred and feathered the tax collector. President George Washington gathered up troops and began to march on western Pennsylvania to put down the revolt and enforce the tax. When the farmers got news of this, they ceased their revolt, and paid the tax. Big difference in how the two situations were handled.
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Yep, I was a history and political science major in undergrad, and have been a avid student of history all of my life (I will be 60 in July).

I am well aware of the events of 1754-1789.
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