Here's a NY Times article about a Mexican school looking to join the NCAA.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/sport...order.html

It looks like they're aiming to join the CCAA in D2.

But this should open up the possibility of NCAA membership at any divisional level. Time to start dreaming up expansion scenarios involving Toronto, McGill, UBC, Tec de Monterrey, UNAM and IPN.

Simon Fraser to the Big Sky! Seriously, I think that with their seasoning period over, I could see the Clan make the switch to DI.

Be interesting to see if Arkansas State University - Queretaro, Mexico will start athletics. They will have some athletic facilities. AState has been looking at hosting some exempt events there after it opens.

(05-02-2017 09:56 AM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  Here's a NY Times article about a Mexican school looking to join the NCAA.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/sport...order.html

It looks like they're aiming to join the CCAA in D2.

But this should open up the possibility of NCAA membership at any divisional level. Time to start dreaming up expansion scenarios involving Toronto, McGill, UBC, Tec de Monterrey, UNAM and IPN.

This is interesting!

This is an interesting novelty, but not many American universities will want to be part of this, because of an important detail noted in the article:

Quote:That day’s match, an exhibition against San Diego Christian College, was not scheduled to begin until 1 p.m., and the gym was less than 40 miles away. But crossing the United States-Mexico border can take hours, so the team played it safe, sacrificing sleep to make sure it arrived on time.

Driving across the border at any of the busiest border crossings - like San Diego/Tijuana or Detroit/Windsor - can take hours in each direction. Doing it every so often (like Californians vacationing in Baja) is ok, but doing it regularly is too much of a hassle and too much time to take out of the schedules of college students.

(05-02-2017 11:26 AM)Wedge Wrote:  This is an interesting novelty, but not many American universities will want to be part of this, because of an important detail noted in the article:

Quote:That day’s match, an exhibition against San Diego Christian College, was not scheduled to begin until 1 p.m., and the gym was less than 40 miles away. But crossing the United States-Mexico border can take hours, so the team played it safe, sacrificing sleep to make sure it arrived on time.

Driving across the border at any of the busiest border crossings - like San Diego/Tijuana or Detroit/Windsor - can take hours in each direction. Doing it every so often (like Californians vacationing in Baja) is ok, but doing it regularly is too much of a hassle and too much time to take out of the schedules of college students.

Waaaay too much of a hassle on the Southern border. Even El Paso Jauraz can be a pain. 20 years ago was easy.

British Columbia to the PAC 12.

Canadian football uses different rules and has a different field size. If a Canadian college wanted to join the NCAA it would be difficult to play other Canadian teams. You can't practice all summer under NCAA rules then play 2 or 3 games by Canadian rules. Are schools ready to commit to all of their away games being in the US?

I think basketball is different too. I think they use the international 3 point line but I could be mistaken.

I like the ice plant in bloom at the football field.



The ice plant is in full bloom here in California

(05-02-2017 10:29 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Canadian football uses different rules and has a different field size. If a Canadian college wanted to join the NCAA it would be difficult to play other Canadian teams. You can't practice all summer under NCAA rules then play 2 or 3 games by Canadian rules. Are schools ready to commit to all of their away games being in the US?

I think basketball is different too. I think they use the international 3 point line but I could be mistaken.

British Columbia HS's use American rules and size fields. Any BC school that plays in the CIS (the Canadian NCAA) has to play Canadian rules.

The pilot program was only for DII. A DI or DIII wont accept a foreign program yet.

Think the intention for Simon Fraser is to play hockey, and since SFU has finished it's DII transition, it could announce a program shortly as most DII hockey schools play at the DI level. But Simon Fraser needs the WCHA to accept them, as it would have a terrible time getting home games, but the WCHA needs another western school to go in with SFU as then a western division can be formed limiting travel west for the eastern teams.

Each division decides whether it will accept international schools and currently only D2 has approved Canada. D2 considered Mexico at the same time as the Canada approval but it was determined that travel was too unsafe. Monterrey Tech and another school were possibilities for the Lone Star. Simon Fraser may be the only Canadian school to join the NCAA. They seem to be a U.S. school that just happens to be in Canada. D1 will have to determine if they will allow a SFU ice hockey team otherwise D2 will be the only option.

Cetys is interesting but has a few questions. Will D2 reverse its decision or just make an exception for one school. What sports does Cetys sponsor and where do they play, I have not found an athletics website. Football plays in Tijuana but in looking at satellite shots of the TJ campus there doesn't seem to be any other athletic facilities nor any available space to build any. Mexicali is the main campus with another campus in Ensenada. What will the border crossing policy be when they play Simon Fraser.

(05-02-2017 01:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  British Columbia to the PAC 12.

have you ordered your Spanish and French Rosetta Stone copies yet?

(05-02-2017 11:26 AM)Wedge Wrote:  This is an interesting novelty, but not many American universities will want to be part of this, because of an important detail noted in the article:

Quote:That day’s match, an exhibition against San Diego Christian College, was not scheduled to begin until 1 p.m., and the gym was less than 40 miles away. But crossing the United States-Mexico border can take hours, so the team played it safe, sacrificing sleep to make sure it arrived on time.

Driving across the border at any of the busiest border crossings - like San Diego/Tijuana or Detroit/Windsor - can take hours in each direction. Doing it every so often (like Californians vacationing in Baja) is ok, but doing it regularly is too much of a hassle and too much time to take out of the schedules of college students.

I know some SDSU students who live in Tiujana to save money (they're American and one of them doesn't even know Spanish). It's relatively easy to get the equivalent of a fastpass (although it still takes 5-30 minutes to get through).

Here's an SD Tribune article that asks business experts, " Is Tijuana a viable housing alternative for San Diegans?" 11 of the 13 experts say yes.

(05-02-2017 01:38 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  British Columbia to the PAC 12.

For what it's worth, the President of UBC is Santa Ono, the former president of the University of Cincinnati. He is known to be a big college sports fan.

Here's a picture of him crowd surfing at a UC football game:

(05-02-2017 10:29 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Canadian football uses different rules and has a different field size. If a Canadian college wanted to join the NCAA it would be difficult to play other Canadian teams. You can't practice all summer under NCAA rules then play 2 or 3 games by Canadian rules. Are schools ready to commit to all of their away games being in the US?

I think basketball is different too. I think they use the international 3 point line but I could be mistaken.

If they joined the NCAA, they'd obviously have to play by NCAA rules.

Sure, bring on UBC. They can have Wazzu's spot.

Another requirement...Canadian (& Mexican) Universities (as all member institutions) must be accredited by an U.S. accrediting agency to be eligible for membership.

https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/2016/...ation.html

(05-04-2017 04:32 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  Another requirement...Canadian (& Mexican) Universities (as all member institutions) must be accredited by an U.S. accrediting agency to be eligible for membership.

https://www.sfu.ca/sfunews/stories/2016/...ation.html

CETYS in Tijuana has US accreditation - first Mexican University to get it.

I believe the NAIA will be competing for these schools. Their bylaws allow accreditation by Universities Canada, and at their convention in April they removed the limitation that schools be located in either the US or Canada.

(05-02-2017 09:56 AM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  Here's a NY Times article about a Mexican school looking to join the NCAA.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/sport...order.html

It looks like they're aiming to join the CCAA in D2.

But this should open up the possibility of NCAA membership at any divisional level. Time to start dreaming up expansion scenarios involving Toronto, McGill, UBC, Tec de Monterrey, UNAM and IPN.

I wonder if McGill would get an Ivy invite. New Jersey residents will disagree, but Harvard vs McGill may have been the first football game ever (depending on what you officially call football vs a football like sport). McGill also has great academics and is already associated w/ a number of Ivy schools in a number of areas.