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Prayers go out to Kimmel. His newbon boy has a pretty rare heart defect but obviously he can afford the best health care. His monologue is pretty emotional and gets political as it takes on our current healthcare situation in the U.S.

There is a happy ending for little Billy Kimmel although he has to have two more open heart surgeries to continue to correct his defect.

(05-02-2017 07:12 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://abc.go.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel-liv...DKA3817329

Prayers go out to Kimmel. His newbon boy has a pretty rare heart defect but obviously he can afford the best health care. His monologue is pretty emotional and gets political as it takes on our current healthcare situation in the U.S.

There is a happy ending for little Billy Kimmel although he has to have two more open heart surgeries to continue to correct his defect.

There are newborns born in families who do not qualify for Medicaid, but can't afford health insurance. With that in mind, he placed himself in those parents shoes who can't afford it.

Somebody needs to tell Kimmel that the Republicans repeal and replace keeps coverage for pre-existing conditions. To make a heartfelt announcement about his baby is understandable. To add a political statement in it was not necessary. Of course late night television has morphed into a liberal time slot to rant and rave. Just sad he had to include it into his personal family situation, which we all have great compassion for.

I wonder if he'll place himself in the shoes of those who had high-quality health care plans (aka Cadillac plans) but lost them due to ObamaCare and now can't afford the high deductibles and co-pays?

Some of those people also face serious situations like this as well.

(05-02-2017 10:08 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if he'll place himself in the shoes of those who had high-quality health care plans (aka Cadillac plans) but lost them due to ObamaCare and now can't afford the high deductibles and co-pays?

Some of those people also face serious situations like this as well.

Kimmell makes 10 million a year and he comes out as relating to a poor family who can't afford Obamacare premiums with a huge deductible. Not buying it.

I'll refer everybody back to the Socialised Healthcare System in Canada thread for the alternative to our own:

Inside the Canadian healthcare system...

(05-02-2017 10:06 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Somebody needs to tell Kimmel that the Republicans repeal and replace keeps coverage for pre-existing conditions. To make a heartfelt announcement about his baby is understandable. To add a political statement in it was not necessary. Of course late night television has morphed into a liberal time slot to rant and rave. Just sad he had to include it into his personal family situation, which we all have great compassion for.

Riiiiiight. For people like Kimmel who can afford the added cost. The rest of us will be screwed.

Thankfully, this has no shot at making it through the Senate.

As much bashing as our health care system gets, we have the best neonatal ICUs in the world bar none.

(05-02-2017 10:12 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 10:08 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if he'll place himself in the shoes of those who had high-quality health care plans (aka Cadillac plans) but lost them due to ObamaCare and now can't afford the high deductibles and co-pays?

Some of those people also face serious situations like this as well.

Kimmell makes 10 million a year and he comes out as relating to a poor family who can't afford Obamacare premiums with a huge deductible. Not buying it.

If he made $10 an hour an said it, he wouldn't have the venue to talk about it. If we left it up to poor people to speak out on issues, we wouldn't care what they had to say.

Trump's son is from a billion dollar family and relates himself well enough to poorer families to be a major fundraiser for St. Jude's. Since he "can't relate" he shouldn't go looking for money for them?

Important people relating to others is the best way to get things done.

(05-02-2017 10:06 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Somebody needs to tell Kimmel that the Republicans repeal and replace keeps coverage for pre-existing conditions. To make a heartfelt announcement about his baby is understandable. To add a political statement in it was not necessary. Of course late night television has morphed into a liberal time slot to rant and rave. Just sad he had to include it into his personal family situation, which we all have great compassion for.

Go back and read it. The plan now have it where states can opt out of the Pre-existing Conditions to appeal to the Tea Party far right wing Republicans that want it completely gone. As it is, many moderates will vote no since they want the Pre-existing Condition in. The issue is that ACA is becoming popular, and that people could still get coverage under another insurance company. The problem is not the ACA bill. The problem have been the health insurance, drug and medical manufacture companies are the main reason why we have a crisis in health care in the USA in the first place.
Someone can go to the emergency room for treatment who are poor, but can't afford it. The cost will be past down to people with health insurance to pay for the care. As it is, hospital seem to have lowered the prices for care since many people have been put on ACA. That could also effect the prices for people in the long run. The prices will lower in the future for everybody.

This being the guy that think's it's funny for parents, for their own amusement, to upset their kids by telling them their Halloween candy has been stolen.

This being the guy that think's it's funny for parents, for their own amusement, to upset their kids by telling them their Halloween candy has been stolen.

Well it is funny and most of.our dads pulled pranks like that on us

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Plus, Kimmel came out both parties to fix the issues, and stop cramming bills so quickly that it will fail. You need time to fix the problems. What the ACA did was exposing the flaws in our health care system.

Aren't children covered by Medicaid?


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(05-03-2017 07:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Aren't children covered by Medicaid?


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Not all children. If you make above $16,000, the family do not qualify. That was the old requirement. Under the ACA, if you make under $30,000, you do qualify. The families between $16,000 to $30,000 slipped through the cracks when the cost of living and health care went up. They did not qualify for charity help either. That is the sad part that a certain group of people could not get the help for food or for health care.

I have no problem with he said. Pre existing conditions evolved into a catchall so insurance could deny your claim. That was a major problem pre ACA. I don't like the ACAs solution to the problem but I comptleley understand why the average American wants to avoid going back to the days where a childhood allergy you forgot about could result in a major claim denial

(05-03-2017 07:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  I have no problem with he said. Pre existing conditions evolved into a catchall so insurance could deny your claim. That was a major problem pre ACA. I don't like the ACAs solution to the problem but I comptleley understand why the average American wants to avoid going back to the days where a childhood allergy you forgot about could result in a major claim denial

The ability to be denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition was a powerful motivator to get people to carry continuous health insurance coverage and avoid lapses.
With that conditional aspect gone there is no risk in allowing coverage to lapse as now when you get sick with something you can just get health insurance at that point and be covered.
Insurance can not operate successfully on a model that lets people sit out if well and jump in when ill. No preexisting conditions has been painted to be the insurance carriers being meanies. It isn't that at all.
If I were writing the legislation I would include "no exclusion of coverage for preexisting conditions" but with the caviat "as long as prior health insurance coverage was continuous or near continuous with explanations for any lapses."

Quote:The ability to be denied coverage due to a pre-existing condition was a powerful motivator to continue coverage and avoid lapses.

What if you lost or changed jobs and your coverage changed?

People born with conditions could not avoid it. It is usually caused by a mutated gene or flaw in the reproductive system. We need to find cures for all these things. We just can't be on medications for the rest of our lives.