(05-02-2017 09:19 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 09:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 10:41 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 10:35 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  You can build whatever wall you want, with your own money.

You ain't gettin' my tax dollars to build a dumba__ wall!

Then y'all shouldn't get my tax dollars to fund your butchering of babies right?

Hate to break this to you, but continuing to say something that's demonstrable false isn't going to make it true.

so whats false about my statement?

Tax dollars don't fund unlimited abortions. See Hyde Amendment.

And since neither of us is a woman or an abortion doctor, we don't have or perform any abortions.

(05-02-2017 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 09:19 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 09:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 10:41 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 10:35 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  You can build whatever wall you want, with your own money.

You ain't gettin' my tax dollars to build a dumba__ wall!

Then y'all shouldn't get my tax dollars to fund your butchering of babies right?

Hate to break this to you, but continuing to say something that's demonstrable false isn't going to make it true.

so whats false about my statement?

Tax dollars don't fund unlimited abortions. See Hyde Amendment.

And since neither of us is a woman or an abortion doctor, we don't have or perform any abortions.

it you can knock up a woman and she can abort the child without your knowledge.

#maleprivilege

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(05-01-2017 08:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  What about a border wall that was funded in 2006 that the government has been dragging their feet on?

A wall will always be a failure. The problem is Mexico itself. Why aren't they helping us ? and why is are relationship so poor with them?

The wall they already built in the San Diego area has been very successful.

Walls will always help. They will never be perfect.

Bullet has it right.. walls will never be perfect, but they do work within reason.

As for why isn't Mexico helping? THEY DON"T WANT To.. they want all the criminal scum out of their country and have no problem pushing them north.

Just ask yourself again, why isn't Mexico's feet being held to the fire for their immigration policy on their southern border? Hm...??

(05-02-2017 09:14 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-01-2017 10:35 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  You can build whatever wall you want, with your own money.

You ain't gettin' my tax dollars to build a dumba__ wall!

One problem, it doesn't work that way.

Ya gotta pay in first...

What youz twoz don't understand how today's tea party works....

(05-02-2017 10:33 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

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(05-01-2017 08:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  What about a border wall that was funded in 2006 that the government has been dragging their feet on?

A wall will always be a failure. The problem is Mexico itself. Why aren't they helping us ? and why is are relationship so poor with them?

The wall they already built in the San Diego area has been very successful.

Walls will always help. They will never be perfect.

Bullet has it right.. walls will never be perfect, but they do work within reason.

As for why isn't Mexico helping? THEY DON"T WANT To.. they want all the criminal scum out of their country and have no problem pushing them north.

Just ask yourself again, why isn't Mexico's feet being held to the fire for their immigration policy on their southern border? Hm...??

One has to be an idiot to think 100% is achievable...

#sixsigmablackbelt

It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

That is an interesting point, that I've wondered about.

Would we be able to build a massive project?

Not physically, I mean we just would never be able to get that kind of money approved. The modern mechanism of politics would break.

Everyone would say "what about me, I want something for my state/district", or "why should it be put there?", or "I don't believe government should be doing this."

(05-02-2017 05:13 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  That is an interesting point, that I've wondered about.

Would we be able to build a massive project?

Not physically, I mean we just would never be able to get that kind of money approved. The modern mechanism of politics would break.

Everyone would say "what about me, I want something for my state/district", or "why should it be put there?", or "I don't believe government should be doing this."

That's why you break it down into several small contracts under a single program. We'll probably award the overall program to 5 to 10 big time contractors who will have lots of subs working under them. I'm on a $2B program right now that was broken down to 16 (?, we aren't managing all of them) different construction contracts.

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(05-02-2017 02:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

You did hear Preibus say just yesterday that they were looking into an amendment to limit first amendment freedom's didn't you????

(05-03-2017 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

You did hear Preibus say just yesterday that they were looking into an amendment to limit first amendment freedom's didn't you????

And if he pushes that nonsense any further I'm done with him (Trump and co) cold turkey. The first amendment is basically everything.

(05-03-2017 09:58 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

You did hear Preibus say just yesterday that they were looking into an amendment to limit first amendment freedom's didn't you????

And if he pushes that nonsense any further I'm done with him (Trump and co) cold turkey. The first amendment is basically everything.

I agree...I could not believe he would publicly admit something so utterly ridiculous.

(05-02-2017 02:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

There are already 700 miles of wall on the 2000 mile border.

The Chinese built a 4,000 mile wall over 2000 years ago.

(05-03-2017 10:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:58 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

You did hear Preibus say just yesterday that they were looking into an amendment to limit first amendment freedom's didn't you????

And if he pushes that nonsense any further I'm done with him (Trump and co) cold turkey. The first amendment is basically everything.

I agree...I could not believe he would publicly admit something so utterly ridiculous.

It was merely subjecting the press to the same libel laws that everyone else faces.

I don't agree with it, but its not that extreme. And he would never get 50 votes in the Senate, let alone the 2/3 majority he needs. He wouldn't get a majority of Republicans for that.

(05-03-2017 10:08 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 10:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:58 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-02-2017 02:47 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  It's near-impossible to do anything really ambitious with government anymore. The idea of building hundreds of miles of wall on the Southern border would be a Sisyphean task, and Trump doesn't have the resolve or the smarts to do it. This is the guy complaining about how hard it is to be president. Yeah, he's a lightweight.

On the bright side, maybe this will end all the silliness on the left-wing news sites about Trump consolidating executive power and undermining all the institutions of democracy.

You did hear Preibus say just yesterday that they were looking into an amendment to limit first amendment freedom's didn't you????

And if he pushes that nonsense any further I'm done with him (Trump and co) cold turkey. The first amendment is basically everything.

I agree...I could not believe he would publicly admit something so utterly ridiculous.

It was merely subjecting the press to the same libel laws that everyone else faces.

I don't agree with it, but its not that extreme. And he would never get 50 votes in the Senate, let alone the 2/3 majority he needs. He wouldn't get a majority of Republicans for that.

That's why it's ridiculous and you don't say it in public. Just like they never should have pressed forward with an ACA repeal the first time when they had nowhere near the votes. You don't go public unless you're pretty certain you can get it done. Else you look foolish.

(05-03-2017 10:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 10:08 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 10:03 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:58 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-03-2017 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You did hear Preibus say just yesterday that they were looking into an amendment to limit first amendment freedom's didn't you????

And if he pushes that nonsense any further I'm done with him (Trump and co) cold turkey. The first amendment is basically everything.

I agree...I could not believe he would publicly admit something so utterly ridiculous.

It was merely subjecting the press to the same libel laws that everyone else faces.

I don't agree with it, but its not that extreme. And he would never get 50 votes in the Senate, let alone the 2/3 majority he needs. He wouldn't get a majority of Republicans for that.

That's why it's ridiculous and you don't say it in public. Just like they never should have pressed forward with an ACA repeal the first time when they had nowhere near the votes. You don't go public unless you're pretty certain you can get it done. Else you look foolish.

He's ADHD. He's expressing his frustration with the over the top attacks on him and his family. I think Melania has already won a couple of settlements from items that didn't even pass the exemptions the press has. They think they can get away with anything.

(05-02-2017 07:07 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  That's why you break it down into several small contracts under a single program. We'll probably award the overall program to 5 to 10 big time contractors who will have lots of subs working under them. I'm on a $2B program right now that was broken down to 16 (?, we aren't managing all of them) different construction contracts.

"Why is New Mexico getting to benefit from a $5B contract to build sections of wall, when West Virginia has thousands of displaced coal miners who aren't getting squat?? What are you going to do to fund them??"

And so on and so on ...

I said it before the election and I'll say it again now. The wall is never going to be built. I feel bad for anyone who voted for him solely on the hope that it would happen.