(05-10-2017 08:09 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:58 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:52 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:34 PM)B easy Wrote:  Looks like ECU is battling Michigan & Maryland for another Clemson grad transfer. Coach Mo really fighting for his future right now.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerp...822&spln=1

Not so sure it's him desperately fighting for his future as it is filling obvious voids. There was obvious bloviation from the previous staff on the caliber players we were getting in here and it showed on the field once we got into the AAC. DL/OL/DB were areas of critical need and the staff appears to be trying to handle the problem quickly.

I think how hard we're going after these transfers speaks to the previous staff more so than the current.

disagree
these are grad transfers....they have 1 year to play...this is the play of someone who feels the pressure to win now

a coach filling holes is what smu did, which is loading up on touted freshmen and building them up over multiple years

I understand how grad transfers work and how many years they get. I also get my point is still valid. The players that were recruited by the previous staff, that are Jr and Sr now are struggling to win in this league. So the current staff is plugging holes. Every coach feels pressure to win now.

The definition of plugging holes is grad/JUCO transfers, not a freshman who likely won't make an impact for 2 to 3 years.

if you realize how grad transfers work, youd realize you dont do it if your are building a program too much..

you are allowed to bring only 25 players in at 1 time, recruits or transfers..grad transfers not only count against the 25, they shrink your roster over time, because not only will your regular seniors be gone, and regular player attrition but the grad transfers you just added will also be gone, and you will only be able to bring in 25, likely losing more than 25

and new coaches who are supposedly rebuilding are given years to build.. i already gave an example with smu
he had a lot of holes to fill, he got a ton of freshmen and he has been building them up..his first year, his top 2 wr, top 2 rb, top 2 qb were freshmen..he had pressure to win but its wasnt going to make or break him his first 2 years...if smu ends up being good this year (like many think) they'll be good for atleast 3 more years after with the depth he has built

you only do heavy grad transfer if you feel you must win tomorrow or you might be out of a job.especially when you just got the job

(05-10-2017 09:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:09 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:58 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:52 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:34 PM)B easy Wrote:  Looks like ECU is battling Michigan & Maryland for another Clemson grad transfer. Coach Mo really fighting for his future right now.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerp...822&spln=1

Not so sure it's him desperately fighting for his future as it is filling obvious voids. There was obvious bloviation from the previous staff on the caliber players we were getting in here and it showed on the field once we got into the AAC. DL/OL/DB were areas of critical need and the staff appears to be trying to handle the problem quickly.

I think how hard we're going after these transfers speaks to the previous staff more so than the current.

disagree
these are grad transfers....they have 1 year to play...this is the play of someone who feels the pressure to win now

a coach filling holes is what smu did, which is loading up on touted freshmen and building them up over multiple years

I understand how grad transfers work and how many years they get. I also get my point is still valid. The players that were recruited by the previous staff, that are Jr and Sr now are struggling to win in this league. So the current staff is plugging holes. Every coach feels pressure to win now.

The definition of plugging holes is grad/JUCO transfers, not a freshman who likely won't make an impact for 2 to 3 years.

if you realize how grad transfers work, youd realize you dont do it if your are building a program too much..

you are allowed to bring only 25 players in at 1 time, recruits or transfers..grad transfers not only count against the 25, they shrink your roster over time, because not only will your regular seniors be gone, and regular player attrition but the grad transfers you just added will also be gone, and you will only be able to bring in 25, likely losing more than 25

and new coaches who are supposedly rebuilding are given years to build.. i already gave an example with smu
he had a lot of holes to fill, he got a ton of freshmen and he has been building them up..his first year, his top 2 wr, top 2 rb, top 2 qb were freshmen..he had pressure to win but its wasnt going to make or break him his first 2 years...if smu ends up being good this year (like many think) they'll be good for atleast 3 more years after with the depth he has built

you only do heavy grad transfer if you feel you must win tomorrow or you might be out of a job.especially when you just got the job

Our recruiting wasn't up to snuff under the previous staff and as a result we have immediate needs and holes to fill if we want to be competitive in this conference. If you go back and look at our recruiting classes under Ruff to see who those prospects had offers from it becomes crystal clear what today's issue is. Not enough talent to win in the AAC.

Ruff could not or would not go head to head with BCS/P caliber schools to go after recruits. And that is why we are in the position we are today. Mo is doing that and is landing a better quality player as a result. I like the direction he is taking with the program and giving nor accepting any excuses. I believe he'll get it turned around in the next couple of years and we'll be where we are supposed to be in the conference pecking order.

And yes of course he feels pressure to win now. Anyone is his position worth his salt feels the pressure to win and wants to win now. He wouldn't be in that position of that wasn't the case.

(05-10-2017 09:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:09 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:58 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:52 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:34 PM)B easy Wrote:  Looks like ECU is battling Michigan & Maryland for another Clemson grad transfer. Coach Mo really fighting for his future right now.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerp...822&spln=1

Not so sure it's him desperately fighting for his future as it is filling obvious voids. There was obvious bloviation from the previous staff on the caliber players we were getting in here and it showed on the field once we got into the AAC. DL/OL/DB were areas of critical need and the staff appears to be trying to handle the problem quickly.

I think how hard we're going after these transfers speaks to the previous staff more so than the current.

disagree
these are grad transfers....they have 1 year to play...this is the play of someone who feels the pressure to win now

a coach filling holes is what smu did, which is loading up on touted freshmen and building them up over multiple years

I understand how grad transfers work and how many years they get. I also get my point is still valid. The players that were recruited by the previous staff, that are Jr and Sr now are struggling to win in this league. So the current staff is plugging holes. Every coach feels pressure to win now.

The definition of plugging holes is grad/JUCO transfers, not a freshman who likely won't make an impact for 2 to 3 years.

if you realize how grad transfers work, youd realize you dont do it if your are building a program too much..

you are allowed to bring only 25 players in at 1 time, recruits or transfers..grad transfers not only count against the 25, they shrink your roster over time, because not only will your regular seniors be gone, and regular player attrition but the grad transfers you just added will also be gone, and you will only be able to bring in 25, likely losing more than 25

and new coaches who are supposedly rebuilding are given years to build.. i already gave an example with smu
he had a lot of holes to fill, he got a ton of freshmen and he has been building them up..his first year, his top 2 wr, top 2 rb, top 2 qb were freshmen..he had pressure to win but its wasnt going to make or break him his first 2 years...if smu ends up being good this year (like many think) they'll be good for atleast 3 more years after with the depth he has built

you only do heavy grad transfer if you feel you must win tomorrow or you might be out of a job.especially when you just got the job

Well he has to win tomorrow. This isn't basketball. Another rotten season like last year and he's hittin the road jack.

(05-10-2017 02:16 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 09:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:09 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:58 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:52 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  Not so sure it's him desperately fighting for his future as it is filling obvious voids. There was obvious bloviation from the previous staff on the caliber players we were getting in here and it showed on the field once we got into the AAC. DL/OL/DB were areas of critical need and the staff appears to be trying to handle the problem quickly.

I think how hard we're going after these transfers speaks to the previous staff more so than the current.

disagree
these are grad transfers....they have 1 year to play...this is the play of someone who feels the pressure to win now

a coach filling holes is what smu did, which is loading up on touted freshmen and building them up over multiple years

I understand how grad transfers work and how many years they get. I also get my point is still valid. The players that were recruited by the previous staff, that are Jr and Sr now are struggling to win in this league. So the current staff is plugging holes. Every coach feels pressure to win now.

The definition of plugging holes is grad/JUCO transfers, not a freshman who likely won't make an impact for 2 to 3 years.

if you realize how grad transfers work, youd realize you dont do it if your are building a program too much..

you are allowed to bring only 25 players in at 1 time, recruits or transfers..grad transfers not only count against the 25, they shrink your roster over time, because not only will your regular seniors be gone, and regular player attrition but the grad transfers you just added will also be gone, and you will only be able to bring in 25, likely losing more than 25

and new coaches who are supposedly rebuilding are given years to build.. i already gave an example with smu
he had a lot of holes to fill, he got a ton of freshmen and he has been building them up..his first year, his top 2 wr, top 2 rb, top 2 qb were freshmen..he had pressure to win but its wasnt going to make or break him his first 2 years...if smu ends up being good this year (like many think) they'll be good for atleast 3 more years after with the depth he has built

you only do heavy grad transfer if you feel you must win tomorrow or you might be out of a job.especially when you just got the job

Well he has to win tomorrow. This isn't basketball. Another rotten season like last year and he's hittin the road jack.

I agree. He has to put together a respectable season. It would be a lot easier to find money to buy him out.

(05-10-2017 09:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:09 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:58 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:52 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-09-2017 10:34 PM)B easy Wrote:  Looks like ECU is battling Michigan & Maryland for another Clemson grad transfer. Coach Mo really fighting for his future right now.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerp...822&spln=1

Not so sure it's him desperately fighting for his future as it is filling obvious voids. There was obvious bloviation from the previous staff on the caliber players we were getting in here and it showed on the field once we got into the AAC. DL/OL/DB were areas of critical need and the staff appears to be trying to handle the problem quickly.

I think how hard we're going after these transfers speaks to the previous staff more so than the current.

disagree
these are grad transfers....they have 1 year to play...this is the play of someone who feels the pressure to win now

a coach filling holes is what smu did, which is loading up on touted freshmen and building them up over multiple years

I understand how grad transfers work and how many years they get. I also get my point is still valid. The players that were recruited by the previous staff, that are Jr and Sr now are struggling to win in this league. So the current staff is plugging holes. Every coach feels pressure to win now.

The definition of plugging holes is grad/JUCO transfers, not a freshman who likely won't make an impact for 2 to 3 years.

if you realize how grad transfers work, youd realize you dont do it if your are building a program too much..

you are allowed to bring only 25 players in at 1 time, recruits or transfers..grad transfers not only count against the 25, they shrink your roster over time, because not only will your regular seniors be gone, and regular player attrition but the grad transfers you just added will also be gone, and you will only be able to bring in 25, likely losing more than 25

and new coaches who are supposedly rebuilding are given years to build.. i already gave an example with smu
he had a lot of holes to fill, he got a ton of freshmen and he has been building them up..his first year, his top 2 wr, top 2 rb, top 2 qb were freshmen..he had pressure to win but its wasnt going to make or break him his first 2 years...if smu ends up being good this year (like many think) they'll be good for atleast 3 more years after with the depth he has built

you only do heavy grad transfer if you feel you must win tomorrow or you might be out of a job.especially when you just got the job

You aren't wrong, because 3-9 or worse again and he's likely looking for work. Last year was completely unacceptable on every level. I don't think he's gotta make a bowl game to ensure year 3, but a season like last probably dooms him.

(05-10-2017 02:16 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 09:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 08:09 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:58 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-10-2017 07:52 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  Not so sure it's him desperately fighting for his future as it is filling obvious voids. There was obvious bloviation from the previous staff on the caliber players we were getting in here and it showed on the field once we got into the AAC. DL/OL/DB were areas of critical need and the staff appears to be trying to handle the problem quickly.

I think how hard we're going after these transfers speaks to the previous staff more so than the current.

disagree
these are grad transfers....they have 1 year to play...this is the play of someone who feels the pressure to win now

a coach filling holes is what smu did, which is loading up on touted freshmen and building them up over multiple years

I understand how grad transfers work and how many years they get. I also get my point is still valid. The players that were recruited by the previous staff, that are Jr and Sr now are struggling to win in this league. So the current staff is plugging holes. Every coach feels pressure to win now.

The definition of plugging holes is grad/JUCO transfers, not a freshman who likely won't make an impact for 2 to 3 years.

if you realize how grad transfers work, youd realize you dont do it if your are building a program too much..

you are allowed to bring only 25 players in at 1 time, recruits or transfers..grad transfers not only count against the 25, they shrink your roster over time, because not only will your regular seniors be gone, and regular player attrition but the grad transfers you just added will also be gone, and you will only be able to bring in 25, likely losing more than 25

and new coaches who are supposedly rebuilding are given years to build.. i already gave an example with smu
he had a lot of holes to fill, he got a ton of freshmen and he has been building them up..his first year, his top 2 wr, top 2 rb, top 2 qb were freshmen..he had pressure to win but its wasnt going to make or break him his first 2 years...if smu ends up being good this year (like many think) they'll be good for atleast 3 more years after with the depth he has built

you only do heavy grad transfer if you feel you must win tomorrow or you might be out of a job.especially when you just got the job

Well he has to win tomorrow. This isn't basketball. Another rotten season like last year and he's hittin the road jack.

Yep, for better or worse ECU will tolerate a dreadful basketball program, but they won't tolerate that in football real long. Another year like last and it won't be just Mo gone but probably the entire athletic department.

What bothered me about last year was we seemed to get worse as the season went on. The score didn't show it but we beat SC like a drum offensively ....just couldn't punch it in the endzone. I felt like we got less and less competitive like the team quit on him at the end