In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I watch only the games I really want to see on ESPN or ABC. I avoid it as much as possible.

In college and throughout most of my adult life I used to watch sportscenter before bed and turn in on in the mornings while getting ready for work. Haven't watched it in at least 3 years now.

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

that's why shitflix filed.....

what a cf this is turning into.....

good luck legislating all that bs....

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

I can watch almost every game I want on the laptop hooked into the flatscreen.

We have not officially cut the cord yet due t lack of just picking the phone up to do it but I might as well since we already have the infrastructure set up to watch what we want when we want sans dish or cable.

(04-27-2017 07:51 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I watch only the games I really want to see on ESPN or ABC. I avoid it as much as possible.

In college and throughout most of my adult life I used to watch sportscenter before bed and turn in on in the mornings while getting ready for work. Haven't watched it in at least 3 years now.

I stopped watching Sportcenter for most of the year probably 15 years ago because they burned way to much time on baseball, which I grew to hate with a passion at some point in my early 20s. I stopped watching ESPN completely when they got rid of Chris Berman on NFL Primetime, maybe 5-10 years ago? Once Berman's role was deminished, there was pretty much no more non-political, entertaining personalities left on the network, just a bunch of metrosexual empty suits with agendas.

(04-27-2017 08:02 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:51 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  I watch only the games I really want to see on ESPN or ABC. I avoid it as much as possible.

In college and throughout most of my adult life I used to watch sportscenter before bed and turn in on in the mornings while getting ready for work. Haven't watched it in at least 3 years now.

I stopped watching Sportcenter for most of the year probably 15 years ago because they burned way to much time on baseball, which I grew to hate with a passion at some point in my early 20s. I stopped watching ESPN completely when they got rid of Chris Berman on NFL Primetime, maybe 5-10 years ago? Once Berman's role was deminished, there was pretty much no more non-political, entertaining personalities left on the network, just a bunch of metrosexual empty suits with agendas.

I can't remember the last time I sat through an entire Sportcenter. These days I primarily watch NBCSN, BeIn, and Fox Sports 1. ESPN helped killed college football, IMO, so I could not care less if it goes down the drain.

WatchESPN/ESPN 3 is internet content and has a ton of college sports, but if you want the whole package you can use a service like Sony Vue or Sling TV for just a few bucks per month. It's not exactly a la carte programming but it's close. I'm a Roku guy but chromecast and Apple TV get you there as well.

I like CFB. Not enough to subscribe to pay for a boatload of other crap in a cable or satellite package that I won't watch.

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

the answer to your questions is FirstRowSports... they pretty much have every game thats playing at that current time.

(04-27-2017 07:58 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

that's why shitflix filed.....

what a cf this is turning into.....

good luck legislating all that bs....

http://www.snopes.com/netflix-to-be-discontinued/

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

Wait, where did I mention the government anywhere?

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

How is the bold possible? I'm genuinely curious. Isn't a pay stub/W2/something required before getting on WIC?

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

the difference is simple... they both chose to do that... the government did not choose for them. get it?

(04-27-2017 10:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

How is the bold possible? I'm genuinely curious. Isn't a pay stub/W2/something required before getting on WIC?

IDK to be honest. That is what he's told people in the family. How he does it is beyond me.

(04-27-2017 10:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

the difference is simple... they both chose to do that... the government did not choose for them. get it?

No, but both collude together to share subscription services. I get it that this can be tricky. Splicing into a cable is obviously wrong as well as into a satellite to get free TV, and people get prosecuted for it. Contrast that with someone buying a subscription to TIME and letting other people read it - which is no biggie at all. I think sharing subscription services is much more in line with the former than the latter example.

(04-27-2017 10:18 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

Wait, where did I mention the government anywhere?

You didn't. I included that in an overall opinion I have about hypocrisy when a conservative bemoans people defrauding the gov't and/or the high gov't spending when they themselves are beneficiaries of this gov't spending - especially if they shouldn't be.