The WATCHESPN app and ESPN3 are the best ways to watch. They have on demand or live streaming and archived matches.

I usually watch something else during prime time and when everyone is asleep and I know I can watch something uninterrupted, I catch all the sports.

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

I get ESPN via Sling and stream with a Roku device. This time of year I drop down to the $20 a month subscription. During football and Bball season I ramp it back up. It works well.

(04-27-2017 10:34 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:18 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

Wait, where did I mention the government anywhere?

You didn't. I included that in an overall opinion I have about hypocrisy when a conservative bemoans people defrauding the gov't and/or the high gov't spending when they themselves are beneficiaries of this gov't spending - especially if they shouldn't be.

That is between the private company and the private individuals. The company can always lower their rates and/or charge by the device.

(04-27-2017 10:32 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

the difference is simple... they both chose to do that... the government did not choose for them. get it?

No, but both collude together to share subscription services. I get it that this can be tricky. Splicing into a cable is obviously wrong as well as into a satellite to get free TV, and people get prosecuted for it. Contrast that with someone buying a subscription to TIME and letting other people read it - which is no biggie at all. I think sharing subscription services is much more in line with the former than the latter example.

My HBO, Netflix etc subscriptions have a set number of devices (That you're paying for!!) that can use the channel. If I'm paying for five devices and I only have two, explain to me how it's stealing to share with a friend or family member? Keep in mind, I'M PAYING FOR IT.

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

I get your point in general but for a lot of these services that's actually not at all against the rules. Basically, it's a feature of the service you're paying for.

CNBC Wrote:Let's all breathe a sigh of relief: If you share a Netflix password, you won't be forced into paying for your own separate account yet, the CEO said on Monday.

(04-27-2017 10:54 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:32 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

the difference is simple... they both chose to do that... the government did not choose for them. get it?

No, but both collude together to share subscription services. I get it that this can be tricky. Splicing into a cable is obviously wrong as well as into a satellite to get free TV, and people get prosecuted for it. Contrast that with someone buying a subscription to TIME and letting other people read it - which is no biggie at all. I think sharing subscription services is much more in line with the former than the latter example.

My HBO, Netflix etc subscriptions have a set number of devices (That you're paying for!!) that can use the channel. If I'm paying for five devices and I only have two, explain to me how it's stealing to share with a friend or family member? Keep in mind, I'M PAYING FOR IT.

They already do it by device? I did not know that, but then, I only use one (BluRay) for this kind of thing. No interest in watching TV and movies on a phone or tablet.

(04-27-2017 11:10 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:54 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:32 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

the difference is simple... they both chose to do that... the government did not choose for them. get it?

No, but both collude together to share subscription services. I get it that this can be tricky. Splicing into a cable is obviously wrong as well as into a satellite to get free TV, and people get prosecuted for it. Contrast that with someone buying a subscription to TIME and letting other people read it - which is no biggie at all. I think sharing subscription services is much more in line with the former than the latter example.

My HBO, Netflix etc subscriptions have a set number of devices (That you're paying for!!) that can use the channel. If I'm paying for five devices and I only have two, explain to me how it's stealing to share with a friend or family member? Keep in mind, I'M PAYING FOR IT.

They already do it by device? I did not know that, but then, I only use one (BluRay) for this kind of thing. No interest in watching TV and movies on a phone or tablet.

Microsoft Office 365 does the same thing. You can download all of the Office 365 programs on up to 5 computers.

(04-27-2017 11:10 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  They already do it by device? I did not know that, but then, I only use one (BluRay) for this kind of thing. No interest in watching TV and movies on a phone or tablet.

Showtime Anytime does, but they don't track the devices. They just allow you 5 (I think). You can change them around.

(04-27-2017 11:10 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:48 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

A lot of people are sharing accounts. I haven't "cut the cord" yet, so to speak, but I let my mom use my Amazon Prime account and she lets me use her HBO and Netflix accounts. If I do cut the cord, I will also be using her ESPN account if I need it, but it also helps that I am an ODU fan so unless it is a bowl game or maybe 1-2 basketball games per year, we won't be found on the ESPN networks anyway. My wife hates football so, while I follow it and watch the highlights, it really isn't worth using any good faith marriage capital to watch Wisconsin and Northwestern play, which is the type of game that ESPN carries week in and week out.

I hate to go there, but considering this is supposed to be a site that skews conservative, I'm surprised this type of behavior would be supported by any conservatives on here - especially those who are values based conservatives. Sorry man, just looks like a dick move. Pay your own way and own your sh!t.

I get your point in general but for a lot of these services that's actually not at all against the rules. Basically, it's a feature of the service you're paying for.

CNBC Wrote:Let's all breathe a sigh of relief: If you share a Netflix password, you won't be forced into paying for your own separate account yet, the CEO said on Monday.

I understand the multi-device concept with 5 being typical. For our subscriptions we normally fill those out between the kids notepads, phones and our 2 TVs. I assumed most people have been doing this. If Jerry and ER do not, then it seems they are within their rights to swap services with someone else who isn't utilizing their 5 devices either. Ironically, ER wasn't aware of that so that's kind of a mixed bag there. Regardless, no foul.

My little rant was meant to be more generic in nature, ER just happened to be the example I wrote about. No offense ER, still love you.

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

Cutting the cable cord was the best decision I ever made. I am a die hard college football fan so I made sure that what I supplemented for cable would still allow me to watch college football. I use Playstation Vue and have all of the ESPN's, and other sports channels. My Directv bill was $175. Now I pay $49.99.

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I turned on espn when i got home yesterday out of curiosity. Inane on a 5th grade level. Pitiful.

(04-27-2017 11:59 AM)shere khan Wrote:  I turned on espn when i got home yesterday out of curiosity. Inane on a 5th grade level. Pitiful.

The only time ESPN goes on our TV is whenever there is a game of interest that we want to watch. A lot of games go unwatched. IMHO, not worth the cost no matter how you get the channels.

I use my sister-in-laws login for ESPN, Fox Sports and NBC sports apps on Roku. We use Hulu, Amazon an antenna for other entertainment. I flat out refused to buy a cable package just to have ESPN to watch ECU games. I don't watch any other college sports and don't care really.

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(04-27-2017 10:54 AM)JerryJeff Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:32 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:23 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:11 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:53 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  that was sarcasm right?

Not at all actually. It's called being consistent and for people to put their money where their mouth is. People complain that the gov't wastes money. A lot of that waste is going to people who are getting freebies. Everyone ridiculed the "free cell phone" (rightly so I may add) programs to get phones to poor people. I fail to see how we can feel high and mighty against people getting handouts from the gov't when they really don't deserve the handouts - only to turn around and have no issues with stealing goods and services from companies when you can easily pay for it. Another point is when people who believe in social conservatism feel it is not an issue to break the commandment about stealing.

I don't mean to single out ER specifically, but this type of sh!t happens all the time. My wife has a cousin that is a so-called conservative who will then turn around to max out 401k and IRA investments in order to lower his taxable income enough to get onto WIC. I'm sure we all know of plenty of examples like this too that is full of hypocrisy.

If you claim to be a conservative, you need to live by what you preach. Bitching about people stealing from the gov't only to turn around and steal from someone else is hypocritical. Railing against high gov't spending but then turning around and hiding income to get on the gov't dole is hypocritical. Things like that irk the sh!t out of me.

the difference is simple... they both chose to do that... the government did not choose for them. get it?

No, but both collude together to share subscription services. I get it that this can be tricky. Splicing into a cable is obviously wrong as well as into a satellite to get free TV, and people get prosecuted for it. Contrast that with someone buying a subscription to TIME and letting other people read it - which is no biggie at all. I think sharing subscription services is much more in line with the former than the latter example.

My HBO, Netflix etc subscriptions have a set number of devices (That you're paying for!!) that can use the channel. If I'm paying for five devices and I only have two, explain to me how it's stealing to share with a friend or family member? Keep in mind, I'M PAYING FOR IT.

yep. basically theyre sharing it woth you. my sister in law knows exactly what im doing. if you dont think the app providers know what's going on that would make you a moron.

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First of all, a lot of college football games are still on the over-the-air stations. Secondly, I work Rice home football games and see a lot of games at the press box there. And thirdly, I suspect twitter, facebook live and possibly Netflix, hulu or Amazon Prime in the future will have an occasional football game.

I follow a lot of games through the scoreboard pages. Plus I have two teenage daughters so even if I had DirecTV still on the main tv downstairs, chances are my wife and girls would be watching something else anyway.

Like the others, I absolutely don't miss the $120 bills at all. Instead I pay $30-35 a month. I do also have Sirius/XM's complete package so I get a ton of games on the radio.

I don't understand the hatred some people have for ESPN.

(04-27-2017 02:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't understand the hatred some people have for ESPN.

You have PAC-12 listed in the "I root for" line. So it's easy to see how you can't understand the hatred towards ESPN.

I see nothing wrong with me subscribing to Netflix and sharing with my dad who in turn subscribes to Amazon prime and share with me. If Amazon allows for both devices to be logged in at the same time great if not someone will have to get off and wait. I've called my friend who I let use my Netflix password and asked him to get off before so my wife and i could watch a movie.

I like the example of magazine subscriptions. If I subscribe to SI and my dad subscribes to ESPN the magazine we can trade and save money. Same with online streaming

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

Youtube TV- $35/month. Unlimited DVR. ESPN, ESPN2 ESPN3, ESPN U, CBSN, NBCSN, Golf, CSN, Big Ten Network, SECN, etc... https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/

What is missing- TNT (NBA basketball)

(04-27-2017 05:56 PM)chess Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:35 AM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  In the thread on the layoffs at ESPN, several posted that they have "cut the cord."

My question is do you not like college football? Because I know of no other way to watch most of the significant in-season games. (I think the playoff games were on ABC.)

If you rely on NBC, ABC, CBS and Fox national carries, you're getting only a small number of choices.

Youtube TV- $35/month. Unlimited DVR. ESPN, ESPN2 ESPN3, ESPN U, CBSN, NBCSN, Golf, CSN, etc... https://tv.youtube.com/welcome/

What is missing- TNT (NBA basketball)

Looks like it has deals with the Big 4 only. No Turner, no Viacom. No non big 4 affiliated sports networks.