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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 10:15 AM)Hoots Wrote: (04-27-2017 09:30 AM)FUT Wrote: I keep hearing about the Florida trip. Is that when Keelon was left behind at the hotel?
I could very well be wrong, but I thought that was at Temple in January.
So what is the big mystery story about Florida?
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 11:00 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (04-27-2017 09:05 AM)FUT Wrote: (04-27-2017 08:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Quote:I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Your paranoia with the press is crazy. That is not a leading question in the least. Matter of fact, a reporter should be fired if they are not willing to ask that question.
Quote:Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Exactly. He knows they are going to struggle to compete for the postseason next year (or he is actually as stubborn as he comes across) but what is he going to say? As mentioned earlier --- coach speak.
Quote:Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Couldn't be farther from the Truth. Tubby talked for 8 minutes on how the team over achieved last year and how it was because how well the local kids performed.
It doesn't a genius to understand he's talking about the depth of the team, and better distribution of positions.
We had 6 DI players who all basically played the similar positions. In some ways, it's going to be easier because we have guys who are actually want to play the 4-5.
That bolded part is maddening. Absolutely mind numbing and maddening and honestly about the dumbest thing he could say after what has transpired over the last several month. In addition his actions do not back up those words
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 09:05 AM)FUT Wrote: (04-27-2017 08:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Quote:I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Your paranoia with the press is crazy. That is not a leading question in the least. Matter of fact, a reporter should be fired if they are not willing to ask that question.
Quote:Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Exactly. He knows they are going to struggle to compete for the postseason next year (or he is actually as stubborn as he comes across) but what is he going to say? As mentioned earlier --- coach speak.
I never thought i would hear a Tiger BB fan be happy to make the NIT after our prolonged period of success. Sad.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
I couldn't find thread where I read it, but supposedly Keon took players out in his hometown in Florida after curfew. Staff found out and was displeased. Our nosedive ensued.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 12:44 PM)ejcarlsn Wrote: I couldn't find thread where I read it, but supposedly Keon took players out in his hometown in Florida after curfew. Staff found out and was displeased. Our nosedive ensued.
Yea...supposedly a minor thing...but must've gotten blown out of proportion.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 12:07 PM)FUT Wrote: (04-27-2017 11:00 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (04-27-2017 09:05 AM)FUT Wrote: (04-27-2017 08:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Quote:I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Your paranoia with the press is crazy. That is not a leading question in the least. Matter of fact, a reporter should be fired if they are not willing to ask that question.
Quote:Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Exactly. He knows they are going to struggle to compete for the postseason next year (or he is actually as stubborn as he comes across) but what is he going to say? As mentioned earlier --- coach speak.
Quote:Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Couldn't be farther from the Truth. Tubby talked for 8 minutes on how the team over achieved last year and how it was because how well the local kids performed.
It doesn't a genius to understand he's talking about the depth of the team, and better distribution of positions.
We had 6 DI players who all basically played the similar positions. In some ways, it's going to be easier because we have guys who are actually want to play the 4-5.
That bolded part is maddening. Absolutely mind numbing and maddening and honestly about the dumbest thing he could say after what has transpired over the last several month. In addition his actions do not back up those words
Agree. It's not computing in any way.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 12:57 PM)snowtiger Wrote: (04-27-2017 12:07 PM)FUT Wrote: (04-27-2017 11:00 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (04-27-2017 09:05 AM)FUT Wrote: (04-27-2017 08:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Quote:I think the good team and competitive talk was that he realized he gaffed with the "flavor of expectation" comment last month. So he was not going to make that mistake again, even though the questioner was leading him down that path. I think that obviously means that he feels we can be in every conference game we play. We will not concede anything and should compete for a top-4 spot in the AAC which would put us on the bubble.
Your paranoia with the press is crazy. That is not a leading question in the least. Matter of fact, a reporter should be fired if they are not willing to ask that question.
Quote:Now reality is, he has to say that. If we're in the hunt for an NIT spot going into the AAC tourney, and have had no 30-40 point blowouts - then that's probably realistic competitive. I still want NIT next year.
Exactly. He knows they are going to struggle to compete for the postseason next year (or he is actually as stubborn as he comes across) but what is he going to say? As mentioned earlier --- coach speak.
Quote:Quote:He also was asked how difficult it would be with so many new guys. His reply was something like - in some ways, it will be easier. That is very telling.
It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
Couldn't be farther from the Truth. Tubby talked for 8 minutes on how the team over achieved last year and how it was because how well the local kids performed.
It doesn't a genius to understand he's talking about the depth of the team, and better distribution of positions.
We had 6 DI players who all basically played the similar positions. In some ways, it's going to be easier because we have guys who are actually want to play the 4-5.
That bolded part is maddening. Absolutely mind numbing and maddening and honestly about the dumbest thing he could say after what has transpired over the last several month. In addition his actions do not back up those words
Agree. It's not computing in any way.
Nope. It's no big deal.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 07:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Tubby made the below statements in a 4/26/17 press conference and I seek Tiger fans input on it:
A. "I know we’ll be a very good team.”
B. " we’ll be one of the most competitive teams” in the AAC.
Source
What do the above statements mean to you (e.g., NCAA Tourney bid and wins, NIT appearance, finishing 5th in the AAC, etc)?
It means my leg is wet but for some strange reason it's not raining
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 07:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Tubby made the below statements in a 4/26/17 press conference and I seek Tiger fans input on it:
A. "I know we’ll be a very good team.”
B. " we’ll be one of the most competitive teams” in the AAC.
Source
What do the above statements mean to you (e.g., NCAA Tourney bid and wins, NIT appearance, finishing 5th in the AAC, etc)?
That they won't falter in the last 6 games.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
This team will be learning the ways of D1 on the fly.
Gonna be fascinating actually.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 03:55 PM)snowtiger Wrote: This team will be learning the ways of D1 on the fly.
Gonna be fascinating actually.
I agree, going to be some ups and downs, but it will be interesting, especially at the beginning of the season.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
Pretty much anything you hear now isn't that meaningful.
We don't even know 100% who will be on our team next season... recruiting still being done.
You can read some tea leaves about how Tubby feels about his talent, and even a few clues as to how he felt about what left... but even that is speculation, to some degree.
The results will either exist on the floor or they won't.
Match last season's win total can be considered doing well considering all that's transpired. Even one additional win is vindication/validation of the course, especially if a few good 2018 or 2019 commits happen. But at this point, it all remains to be seen.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
One thing is for sure-- Coach Smith will have no cover this time around.
Any outside elements/influences have been removed. These will be his players, loyal to him... and his staff, loyal to him. Almost no carryover from previous regimes. This is HIS baby now. And as it should be, IMO.
Actually, that makes me want to count this coming season as the FIRST season of the rebuild.
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Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 04:14 PM)NJ1 Wrote: One thing is for sure-- Coach Smith will have no cover this time around.
Any outside elements/influences have been removed. These will be his players, loyal to him... and his staff, loyal to him. Almost no carryover from previous regimes. This is HIS baby now. And as it should be, IMO.
Actually, that makes me want to count this coming season as the FIRST season of the rebuild.
Good post!
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 09:05 AM)FUT Wrote: It was indeed. Seems Tubby is not above being petty. He basically gave local players the middle finger.
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Your paranoia with the press is crazy. That is not a leading question in the least. Matter of fact, a reporter should be fired if they are not willing to ask that question.
I have no paranoia with the press. A leading question is not always negative. Reporters are supposed to ask some leading questions - like that one - to see what the response will be. I didn't mean it as a negative reflection on the media at all. Just making a point that the path was there for Tubby to take, if he wanted to try to lower expectations.
Now your paranoia with Tubby is a whole nother thing. Giving the middle finger to local kids? Come on. I find it hard to believe even you actually think that.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 12:54 PM)snowtiger Wrote: (04-27-2017 12:44 PM)ejcarlsn Wrote: I couldn't find thread where I read it, but supposedly Keon took players out in his hometown in Florida after curfew. Staff found out and was displeased. Our nosedive ensued.
Yea...supposedly a minor thing...but must've gotten blown out of proportion.
Not sure how minor. We have some evidence of what happens when Keon and KJ go clubbing. If that video was an indication, it's easy to see how a team could get blown up.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 10:06 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: (04-27-2017 09:44 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote: (04-27-2017 07:36 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: I assume he means a top 4 team in the AAC. Competitive with SMU, Cincy, and Wichita State. That's our expectations of competitive. We won 19 games this year and I doubt many Tiger fans wouldve called us competitive this year.....especially to end the season.
At this moment, coach talk. No one can have any expectation of a top 4 team in the AAC next year at this moment. There are too many new guys who haven't played together or at this level before. Perhaps they can gel together and a few of the jucos are stars....but you can't honestly assume that to happen yet.
The truth is that the Coach is basing these statements on his evaluation of the players that are coming in to play here as well as the players he has remaining. He has seen them play. He has the experience to be able to evaluate the talent and put together a team he likes. I do trust his judgement more than that of internet posters who have not seen the players yet. I don't think that is merely coach talk.
That's cool. You can trust him. He also told us last year that we'd be a postseason team and compete for conference titles in season 1. Ill believe it when I see it now and will will be happily surprised if it does.
That was before the so called 4 top 100 players he inherited decided to quit on the coach and the team.
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
(04-27-2017 05:37 PM)Ttaylor Wrote: (04-27-2017 10:06 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: (04-27-2017 09:44 AM)SouthernBlue Wrote: (04-27-2017 07:36 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: I assume he means a top 4 team in the AAC. Competitive with SMU, Cincy, and Wichita State. That's our expectations of competitive. We won 19 games this year and I doubt many Tiger fans wouldve called us competitive this year.....especially to end the season.
At this moment, coach talk. No one can have any expectation of a top 4 team in the AAC next year at this moment. There are too many new guys who haven't played together or at this level before. Perhaps they can gel together and a few of the jucos are stars....but you can't honestly assume that to happen yet.
The truth is that the Coach is basing these statements on his evaluation of the players that are coming in to play here as well as the players he has remaining. He has seen them play. He has the experience to be able to evaluate the talent and put together a team he likes. I do trust his judgement more than that of internet posters who have not seen the players yet. I don't think that is merely coach talk.
That's cool. You can trust him. He also told us last year that we'd be a postseason team and compete for conference titles in season 1. Ill believe it when I see it now and will will be happily surprised if it does.
That was before the so called 4 top 100 players he inherited decided to quit on the coach and the team.
Maybe it was the coach that quit on the players? Who is to know?
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RE: Tubby's Press Conference Quotes About Expectations for Next Year - Your Input
Tubby either chooses to reflect positively on everyone whose path he crosses and skate over the negatives, or he is more delusional than Pastner ever was. I'm sure he has some idea how the guys he has watched and recruited will perform due to his years of experience speculating on such things, but when he speaks about it, you have to take into consideration that he just does not say much negative stuff. Mary Poppins and Peter Pan could take lessons from him. We could take lessons from those who take it with a grain of salt.
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