So if the AAC is going to continue with this P6 mess, why don't we all do it? Just all apply a little P6 sticker to our helmets. Its ridiculous, but at least they are trying to act like they belong. I would think all G5 teams would do the same.

(04-26-2017 03:40 PM)monarx Wrote:  So if the AAC is going to continue with this P6 mess, why don't we all do it? Just all apply a little P6 sticker to our helmets. Its ridiculous, but at least they are trying to act like they belong. I would think all G5 teams would do the same.

P10 sounds even better - all of the so-called "G5" conferences. Screw the separation the pundits, networks and so-called "P5's" have branded us when we're all playing at the highest level in college football.

In my opinion the P6 stickers are ridiculous. It reminds me of those fake thugs at the mall you see wearing cubic zirconia earrings and fake metal gold chains. Either you can afford it or not. Only in that person's head does it look cool. Don't wear fake jewelry then wonder why everyone is laughing at you.

(04-26-2017 03:50 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 03:40 PM)monarx Wrote:  So if the AAC is going to continue with this P6 mess, why don't we all do it? Just all apply a little P6 sticker to our helmets. Its ridiculous, but at least they are trying to act like they belong. I would think all G5 teams would do the same.

P10 sounds even better - all of the so-called "G5" conferences. Screw the separation the pundits, networks and so-called "P5's" have branded us when we're all playing at the highest level in college football.

ESPN basically created the power / mid major terms and pushed it down peoples throats until the mass majority of us said screw you and left.... now they are paying for their sins. There are a lot more so Called non power schools out there than power schools..... and ESPN screwed them all

Fans of P5 schools laugh at them when they see that.

That make us P7?

The AAC can be recognized as a Power Conference the moment they decide to abandon their contractual tie in with the other Group of Five conference and compete for the Access Bowls as a stand alone conference.

Until they leave the Group of Five contractual arrangement, then they are firmly in the Group of Five.

(04-26-2017 07:13 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  The AAC can be recognized as a Power Conference the moment they decide to abandon their contractual tie in with the other Group of Five conference and compete for the Access Bowls as a stand alone conference.

Until they leave the Group of Five contractual arrangement, then they are firmly in the Group of Five.

^^This right here. ^^

Put your money where your mouth is or STFU.

because it's ******* ridiculous...that's why...there is no differentiation in the eyes of the mass public in those not in the big leagues..

(04-26-2017 03:40 PM)monarx Wrote:  So if the AAC is going to continue with this P6 mess, why don't we all do it? Just all apply a little P6 sticker to our helmets. Its ridiculous, but at least they are trying to act like they belong. I would think all G5 teams would do the same.

Roy Kramer & Co. continue to laugh at all of us.

Oh and as far as the "P6" goes we as in we that used to share space with most of those teams are not surprised that they would embrace such a pitiful thing like that. They were pitiful from Day One when they waited for a week to announce they were leaving so they could piggy back with Boise State since their own announcement would of been to crickets chirping. They have always been pathetic and will continue to tell each other how great they are because that's what they've all been doing for years now. We all called them out on a continuous basis with facts and they would respond with nonsensical opinions that equated a little kid sticking out their tounge at you. Their whole existence is based on opinions created amoung each other. Hell even their merica conf logo was stolen.

So to see them continue in this manner is of no surprise nor should anyone care because the ones that actually matter don't care. They laugh at them as they laughed at the Big East. The Big East laughed at them and took their basketball & headed down the road. Their own conf mates have tried like hell to get out of the conference. They are the chick trying to look sexy in the mirror taking a selfie except the reflection in the background shows the real picture. You can slap polish on a turd and it's still shi...

merica conference LOL

different-but-related subject:

Fri/01Sept: Navy @FAU
Sat/02Sept: FIU @UCF
Sat/02Sept: UH @UTSA
Sat/09Sept: UNT @SMU
Sat/16Sept: Rice @UH
Sat/30Sept: Marshall @Cinc
Sat/14Oct: Tulane @FIU

(04-26-2017 07:13 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  The AAC can be recognized as a Power Conference the moment they decide to abandon their contractual tie in with the other Group of Five conference and compete for the Access Bowls as a stand alone conference.

Until they leave the Group of Five contractual arrangement, then they are firmly in the Group of Five.

Bingo!

(04-26-2017 08:11 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  we that used to share space with most of those teams are not surprised

ATO do you know if UC was in the MAC at the same time as us

(04-26-2017 08:41 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 08:11 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  we that used to share space with most of those teams are not surprised

ATO do you know if UC was in the MAC at the same time as us

Marshall and UC were never in the MAC at the same time, but we were in the Buckeye Conference together from 1932-1938.

MARSHALL: 1937 Buckeye Conference Football Champions!
We should host an 80th Anniversary Team Reunion this year!

I cannot wait to see what crumbs ESPN has left over for P6 conf. AAC in this next contract...

The P5 is set for the next 10 years, the AAC has 3. I am not one of those expecting a huge gain in next deal, My guess and it is only a guess is 3 to 4 mil per year per team, with 5max. Our TV #s are good, an we are not in full melt down mode like 3 years ago. The MWC is going to be lucky to get any gain next time. I think short term the AAC is really pushing for a tweener status, to do that the P6 talk is a perfect way to push separation from the rest of the gang.

In order to get the cash, I think AAC will go to open market and end up with 2 tiers to sell. I tend to think a NBC/ESPN combo will be the final result, but who knows.

(04-27-2017 08:10 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The P5 is set for the next 10 years, the AAC has 3. I am not one of those expecting a huge gain in next deal, My guess and it is only a guess is 3 to 4 mil per year per team, with 5max. Our TV #s are good, an we are not in full melt down mode like 3 years ago. The MWC is going to be lucky to get any gain next time. I think short term the AAC is really pushing for a tweener status, to do that the P6 talk is a perfect way to push separation from the rest of the gang.

In order to get the cash, I think AAC will go to open market and end up with 2 tiers to sell. I tend to think a NBC/ESPN combo will be the final result, but who knows.

NBC seems pretty happy with soccer, Olympic sports, racing and hockey...Why are they going to pay for anything when they see what's happening to ESPN...They spent all their money on Olympics..

(04-27-2017 08:10 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  The P5 is set for the next 10 years, the AAC has 3. I am not one of those expecting a huge gain in next deal, My guess and it is only a guess is 3 to 4 mil per year per team, with 5max. Our TV #s are good, an we are not in full melt down mode like 3 years ago. The MWC is going to be lucky to get any gain next time. I think short term the AAC is really pushing for a tweener status, to do that the P6 talk is a perfect way to push separation from the rest of the gang.

In order to get the cash, I think AAC will go to open market and end up with 2 tiers to sell. I tend to think a NBC/ESPN combo will be the final result, but who knows.

Serious question though, is the AAC really worth 3 mil per team, and CUSA only worth 200k? I honestly don't see the separation being that big. I recognize that UConn, Cincy and Houston (and maybe Temple) draw eyeballs to TV, but other than Houston, its really just for basketball. The rest are not much better than CUSA. Based on the CUSA $200k figure, unless the AAC is willing to give up most of their Saturday games I wouldn't be surprised to see them drop to $1million per team. Maybe Im crazy, and Im no expert, but thats how I see it. If its higher, then I think that bodes well for CUSAs next media negotiation.

No one is going to pay a lot, CBS already has a small BB package with AAC, and they bought a few FB games from ESPN. They could be the #2 in the mix. Like I said I don't expect a huge payday. When last deal was done, the AAC had no track record, and was a total dumpster fire. At the end of the day, we are relatively cheap fill in content that gets decent ratings,
at 3.5 mil per school we would be getting 15% of what P5 does while giving 35% Plus percent of ratings. It is going to be a simple value play for viewers.

My guess is ESPN was involved in WState add, and the selling of Mia bowl, and likely is all part of set up for extension. If #s can't work than AAC waits for open market. At the end of the day would I be shocked to see AAC at 2.5 mil? no. Would I be shocked at 5 mil? No. I would be mildly surprised with either but not shocked.

One thing to remember for CUSA the last TV deal was the equal of AAC last on time wise.
TV mostly just carried on with the old CUSA deal, because it was short term, and would likely cost as much to redo as what was saved. The 200k was your dumpster fire deal, and you still managed more money than the old Sun belt deal which is what a big part of the new CUSA. You were probably lucky that you had 18 mos to stabilize or it may have been worse. the AAC was in the middle of it when they made last deal.