(04-27-2017 10:44 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 09:53 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  the cops have said the "it is a prank rumor" is bs

Thirteen guys break into a dorm and take underwear, socks, and toenail clippers?

I don't know where you get that information, but I'm going to go with "prank" here cuz common sense.

well in addition to the police chief directly addressing the rumor and saying it was not a prank

you also left out some items

One Xbox game system, the Xbox games “Grand Theft Auto V” and “Metal Gear,” an LG-brand TV, a gold chain, an Aeropostale-brand watch, three pairs of Jordan shoes, two pairs of Adidas shoes, a Nike backpack, four pairs of boxers, eight-and-a-half pairs of socks, three coats, three dollar bills, a Ragin’ Cajuns hat, one ski cap, one pair of jeans, one belt, a training speed ladder, a toenail clipper and one bottle of hair lotion.

and as I stated before only total brain dead morons would think that pranking someone in jail on a rape charge is a good idea or light hearted fun among friends

these are suppose to be people that are intelligent enough to be in college on a free ride and now getting paid a bit of cash as well to play a game

one would think between 13 of them there MIGHT be enough brain power to consider the fact that RAPE is a serious charge with serious consequences for the alleged perp and the alleged victim and not really something that warrants their "friend" being "pranked" about

(04-26-2017 04:29 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 04:15 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  ^ What a stupid post.

Thanks for deomonstrating why we have / need jury trials. Thank God.

To bring this back on topic, if these Louisiana players were playing a prank, I hope they don't miss a single down. And I especially hope they don't end up with records over this.

The question is was this a prank, or did it become one after being caught? ?

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(04-26-2017 06:47 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  Oh dear Lord. Can we stop now?

+ 1000

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(04-27-2017 07:06 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 06:41 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

Who is ULL?

UL-Larceny

(I kid.)

You know this is gonna stick...

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"Well in addition to the police chief directly addressing the rumor and saying it was not a prank You also left out some items.

One Xbox game system, the Xbox games “Grand Theft Auto V” and “Metal Gear,” an LG-brand TV, a gold chain, an Aeropostale-brand watch, three pairs of Jordan shoes, two pairs of Adidas shoes, a Nike backpack, four pairs of boxers, eight-and-a-half pairs of socks, three coats, three dollar bills, a Ragin’ Cajuns hat, one ski cap, one pair of jeans, one belt, a training speed ladder, a toenail clipper and one bottle of hair lotion."

The plot thickens....😎

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(04-26-2017 11:24 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 11:00 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:30 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote:  Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

And if none of that is reported to the police, can I still be charged with a crime?

Here, the theft was reported and those involved in any way were arrested.

Actually yes you could. A witness could report it. A crime is a crime whether or not a victim reports the crime or not. How many murders do you think are reported by their victims?

Also, what if that friend gets pissed at you the following week because he caught you texting his girlfriend, then he decides to report the fart induced retaliatory assault and battery to the police?

The point I'm trying to illustrate to you is that if you want to draw this hard line in the sand that "stealing is stealing! There's nothing in the law that says anything about it being a prank!" then you should at least be consistent in that stance and be ready for the horrible consequences that would create.

This is one reason why we have a jury of our peers. Because often there are mitigating circumstances that must be taken into account through thoughtful consideration of all the details that a simple law written in the books doesn't address.

Well, no, its only a crime if the offended party presses charges and the offending party is found guilty. It doesn't matter if someone else witnesses it. Also, what is the statute of limitations on the fart induced retaliation. If its just a week, then someone can't press charges when they see their buddy was texting their girl a week later.

I believe the "rule of thumb" on fart related crimes is; Once the smell goes away, you can no longer be convicted. I will research and see if I can't find the statute, Lol.

One Xbox game system, the Xbox games “Grand Theft Auto V” and “Metal Gear,” an LG-brand TV, a gold chain, an Aeropostale-brand watch, three pairs of Jordan shoes, two pairs of Adidas shoes, a Nike backpack, four pairs of boxers, eight-and-a-half pairs of socks, three coats, three dollar bills, a Ragin’ Cajuns hat, one ski cap, one pair of jeans, one belt, a training speed ladder, a toenail clipper and one bottle of hair lotion."

With the exception of the Ragin Cajun hat, this sounds a lot like the jawja suthern bowl game gift suite for their players.....

When an employee got fired or quit, we waited about 3 days and then anything in their cubicle was fair game.

This was a made up rule. Technically you can call the rule "conspiracy to steal stuff". Usually it wasn't thousands of dollars of stuff though.

Sounds like maybe a more extreme version of that.

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(04-27-2017 12:42 PM)AppinSC Wrote:  One Xbox game system, the Xbox games “Grand Theft Auto V” and “Metal Gear,” an LG-brand TV, a gold chain, an Aeropostale-brand watch, three pairs of Jordan shoes, two pairs of Adidas shoes, a Nike backpack, four pairs of boxers, eight-and-a-half pairs of socks, three coats, three dollar bills, a Ragin’ Cajuns hat, one ski cap, one pair of jeans, one belt, a training speed ladder, a toenail clipper and one bottle of hair lotion."

With the exception of the Ragin Cajun hat, this sounds a lot like the jawja suthern bowl game gift suite for their players.....

I know this was an attempt to be funny. I applaud the effort and I love a good joke even if it's at my expense or in this case my favorite team. However, I have to be honest and say that this attempt was not very good. Try again but put your heart into this time. I know you can do it.

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that half pair of socks that keeps showing up on the list is cracking me up.

This isn't a funny situation, but I snort every time I imagine these kids taking that one extra sock.

Hudspeth seems like a good guy to me, but I don't follow the program too closely. He needs to be held accountable. You recruit your problems.

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

(04-27-2017 08:07 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

brtran is so transparent. Glad you are taking an interest in the University of Louisiana. Guess it takes your mind off of dead mascots and coach/player family ties up at LaNeck

(04-27-2017 08:07 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

That's what cops do. They enforced the law and are sticking with the fact the law was rightfully enforced. That's why (as another poster keeps saying) we have a prosecutor, judge and jury of our peers to decide the intent of the accused and whether or not they deserve the scarlet letter for the rest of their lives. Can't blame the cops for doing their job and insisting upon the (apparent) fact they did it right.

I'm sure it couldn't have anything to do with someone in jail for rape trying to get some leverage with the University or DA, could it? ;-)

(04-27-2017 11:27 PM)CajunAmos Wrote:  I'm sure it couldn't have anything to do with someone in jail for rape trying to get some leverage with the University or DA, could it? ;-)

this really makes no sense

the DA could care less about the fact that 13 players have been charged the job of the DA is to get lawful convictions

the DA is not sitting there thinking that if they can offer a deal to a player charged with RAPE that player might suddenly change their story and say the theft was just a big joke

doing stupid things like that is how a DA would lose their job

and the university is not trying the player charged for rape

so unless you actually think/want your university to try and get involved and push either a potential rape victim to change their story so that a player will not be tried for rape and then that player will in turn say the theft was just good fun....or you expect the university to suddenly try and cover up a rape or hide evidence with the same hopes....well that is how universities get turned upside down and lose presidents/ADs/coaches and BOR members in the process

now someone charged with rape would possibly be stupid enough to think that is a plan....but actually trying to work that plan is how someone charged with rape has the DA come down even harder on them and blast their lawyer for being a moron

I feel bad for the fans of U Louisiana, but you need to stop letting people push this as a reflection on the university and instead under stand that every D1-A program in the country has about 25 of these types of morons just waiting for the chance to get in a situation like this and any fan base that denies it is just stupid and setting themselves up for a big letdown in the future

(04-27-2017 08:11 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:07 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

brtran is so transparent. Glad you are taking an interest in the University of Louisiana. Guess it takes your mind off of dead mascots and coach/player family ties up at LaNeck

The chickens are coming home to roost down in Cajunland and it couldn't be happening to a more deserving bunch.

How will this felony arrest of 13 players effect the NCAA sanctions that were levied against ULL last year for its involvement in an ACT cheating scandal? Aren't you guys currently on probation for that fine example of institutional control of your football program?

(04-27-2017 08:07 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

Cops generally think most things are crimes. That's the nature of the job.

They committed no crime until a jury convicts them.

If I'm the defense attorney for these young men, the first question I ask a potential juror during jury selection is, "Are you an LTR fan?" If they answer yes, "Juror dismissed."

(04-28-2017 06:17 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:07 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  [quote='BRtransplant' pid='14297080' dateline='1493286896']
It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

Cops generally think most things are crimes. That's the nature of the job.

They committed no crime until a jury convicts them.

If I'm the defense attorney for these young men, the first question I ask a potential juror during jury selection is, "Are you an LTR fan?" If they answer yes, "Juror dismissed."

+1

(04-28-2017 06:17 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 08:07 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 07:33 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 04:54 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  In my humble opinion, ULL should fire Hudspeth over this incident, period. It is merely the latest in a string of incidents that put ULL in a bad light that have taken place under his watch. ULL's football program appears to suffer from a lack of "institutional control", and the blame for that lies 100% on Hudspeth. The reputation of the university should be more important to ULL's administration than Hudspeth's ego is.

By the way, it looks like ULL's police department came out yesterday disputing the "circulating rumor" that this incident was some kind of a prank. They're treating it as a very serious matter (the way felony arrest are usually treated). This incident isn't going to get swept under the rug, and ULL's administration should take decisive action to remedy the situation. If it doesn't act, ULL's administration will validate the "banana republic" reputation Hudspeth seems to be working so hard to install in Lafayette.

It's obvious the real goal of this post was to see how many times you could fit ULL in without making it completely obvious that it was a troll attempt.

Not at all. The real goal of my post was to enlighten you guys of the fact that, no matter what you've read on this thread that says otherwise, Lafayette law enforcement is saying that this incident was no prank. It was felony theft and is being treated as such.

I don't think Hudspeth can survive this latest incident as ULL's head coach.

Cops generally think most things are crimes. That's the nature of the job.

They committed no crime until a jury convicts them.

If I'm the defense attorney for these young men, the first question I ask a potential juror during jury selection is, "Are you an LTR fan?" If they answer yes, "Juror dismissed."

Well that statement shows just how out of touch with this reality you are. Try not to speak for what most cops think, since you clearly have no clue.

Most cops don't like making arrests for myriad reasons, but the number one is that people A) aren't true victims (person buying drugs got robbed) or B) are using cops as pawns (roommate claiming theft of a former friend).

That's one reason many states required cops to make arrests on claims of family violence because oftentimes, there was mitigating circumstances where a cop didn't make the arrest. In a statistically rare amount of cases, the perpetrator then severely hurt of killed the partner. If your claim of "cops think most things are crimes" were accurate, there never would have been the need for a law requiring cops to arrest FV suspects on the allegation of assault.

And you're nuts if you think cops want to make arrests in high profile situations. In Lafayette, this certainly would qualify. I guarantee you the responding officers called a supervisor and then they let a watch commander know. Most likely, that was then passed up through the chain of command to the chiefs.

Please stop talking about police work as if you're an expert.