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RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

Dude you're a dumb***. This is the type of mentality that cost Hillary and all your liberal fucktards friends the election.

Heaven forbid a coach be fired for performing poorly. Losing seasons at Texas? That will get you fired. Severely underperforming at ECU while losing the locker room? Yep, that gets you fired too.

As a white southerner in a predominantly black area of my state, I can say with 100% confidence that the most racist ******** in the country are from well north of the Mason Dixon. Northerners think that not being southern gives them some sort of immunity from being racist. It's weak and tiresome.
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(11-29-2016 11:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

Dude you're a dumb***. This is the type of mentality that cost Hillary and all your liberal fucktards friends the election.

Heaven forbid a coach be fired for performing poorly. Losing seasons at Texas? That will get you fired. Severely underperforming at ECU while losing the locker room? Yep, that gets you fired too.

As a white southerner in a predominantly black area of my state, I can say with 100% confidence that the most racist ******** in the country are from well north of the Mason Dixon. Northerners think that not being southern gives them some sort of immunity from being racist. It's weak and tiresome.

Yup....
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(11-29-2016 11:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

Dude you're a dumb***. This is the type of mentality that cost Hillary and all your liberal fucktards friends the election.

Heaven forbid a coach be fired for performing poorly. Losing seasons at Texas? That will get you fired. Severely underperforming at ECU while losing the locker room? Yep, that gets you fired too.

As a white southerner in a predominantly black area of my state, I can say with 100% confidence that the most racist ******** in the country are from well north of the Mason Dixon. Northerners think that not being southern gives them some sort of immunity from being racist. It's weak and tiresome.
Tell it. We hate Yankees not black folks

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This thread title: "Hey, let's play the race card!"

Reality: They both underperformed, especially Strong. I feel bad for him due to the lofty expectations he had to live up to, but he was replacing a coaching legend. If he'd been allowed more leeway to instill his culture, he would've been more able to lead them back to national prominence. But race being the reason he was fired? Not. Even. Close.
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Strong didn't perform. Most importantly, they made zero progress from Year 1 to Year 3, pretty much capped off by a loss to one of the worst teams in the entire subdivision. That's unacceptable at a place where they expect to win big season after season.

I respect that he tried to win the right way and ran off some knuckleheads from the lockerroom but you have to perform. Even if they had looked good in defeat, they would have worked with him. The Big 12 isn't exactly all that great these days to boot. 3 good teams...if they had just beaten all of the other teams, he's still have a job. Beat Kansas and Kansas State (lost by the same exact score, 24-21) and he's still there, short of them wanting Tom Herman at all costs.
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(11-29-2016 09:20 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  I believe there are only 14 African American coaches in the FCS, now 13. Less than 10%

71% of FCS players are African American.

Just facts.

Probably better than the percentage of corporate CEOs.
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(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_...9ca32.html

Concering Ruffin- You are speculating.

Concerning Charlie- Texas had a difficult time finding a coach before Strong. While I am a Strong fan, big budget schools, like Texas, can do what they wish. Strong choose to clean house and didn't win quickly enough. It is the challenge of coaching.

Strong is not going to be out of work long. Schools like Tennessee, North Carolina, NC State, South Carolina (ACC and SEC schools), etc... can benefit from Strong's coaching.
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(11-29-2016 10:58 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

I have lived in Boston, Massachusetts and now Charleston South Carolina for another stint. I assure you Boston has far more racial tensions than Charleston. North vs South has nothing to do with it anymore. But then again, you know that. You are just race baiting.

That is comical. Dude, I live in Boston. I have never seen any OVERT racial tension in all the time that I have lived here. Charleston South Carolina is CHOCK full of racists.

I have never seen a white person execute a group of black people in a church in Boston. There is a TON of racial tension in Charleston:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016...ael-slager

There have been threats of mass racial killings in Charleston with the trial about to start. I haven't seen that in Boston:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.2863296

Also, here is a video of a white Charleston man throwing racist insults at a black reporter. Once again, I haven't seen that in Boston:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn...865e30e86e

So, yes, I DO know more than you because I choose to read and choose to look beyond my white existence. How about you show me some links to racist violence happening in Boston that matches that of Charleston. Go ahead, I am waiting.
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(11-29-2016 11:08 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

Dude you're a dumb***. This is the type of mentality that cost Hillary and all your liberal fucktards friends the election.

Heaven forbid a coach be fired for performing poorly. Losing seasons at Texas? That will get you fired. Severely underperforming at ECU while losing the locker room? Yep, that gets you fired too.

As a white southerner in a predominantly black area of my state, I can say with 100% confidence that the most racist ******** in the country are from well north of the Mason Dixon. Northerners think that not being southern gives them some sort of immunity from being racist. It's weak and tiresome.

Evidence through various studies bears out that the south is more racist. It looks like the posters on here from Florida, North Carolina, and Texas are defensive for a reason. It seems that people love to tweet racist things in your states:
http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/05/14/t...s-america/

If we want to base it on actual hate crimes, then we can add Tennessee and Oklahoma to the list:
http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/11-mos...es-353960/

So, Southerners, show me again where Connecticut and Massachusetts are more racist than your states? They FACTS bear out that they are not. Other studies show that the Midwest and some northern states like Pennsylvania and Western New York are also pretty racist. Rhode Island is also sort of racist - they are just mad that they live in Rhode Island.

Regardless, the south is proven more racist based on facts. Then comes the Midwest, then the Northeast, and then the West. The Western states are BY FAR the most tolerant of other races.
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Here is a discussion of white privilege and how it shapes what we know. It may benefit some of you to read this (if it doesn't insult your masculinity to read something from a feminist website):
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/less...ilege-poc/
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It is also worth noting that the posters on here who were most rankled by this thread were from FL, NC, OK, TN, TX. Not many people in CT or MD seemed bothered by it. Only a few posters in OH did. Also, not many Tulane graduates were bothered by the thread as they are usually well read and living in New Orleans also exposes one to a positive melding of white/black that is unique in the south. All of that good music and food created by both white and black tends to create a bond amongst mankind.

Anyway, my work here is done. This was an entertaining experiment to gauge the racial viewpoint of this board. It was sort of how I expected it to be.
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(12-02-2016 12:16 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.


Quote:Anyway, my work here is done. This was an entertaining experiment to gauge the racial viewpoint of this board. It was sort of how I expected it to be.

I'd say that your OP was race baiting to start with. Skimming the replies between that and your last post, I would say your "experiment" was a failure and "entertaining" is not the word for it. Folks are tired of hearing about race as the reason for all of society's problems. No one denies that there aren't racists and acts of discrimination in our country (from all races and cultures I might add) but to use race as a reason for firing Strong and McNeill is just asinine. You're damn lucky you escaped without getting negative rep bombed.
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(11-29-2016 02:19 PM)bigzit Wrote:  You are an idiot! I have it on pretty good authority, they knew Strong was black when they hired him and paid him millions as he went under. 500 and lost to Kansas!!!

Moron....

lol just saw this.
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