(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:Convincing the posters here of impeachment isn't the end goal of your posts?

My goal in regards to Trump is to document everything that he has done so as to make it more and more difficult for people on this forum to support him.

Quote:Your definition of "trouble" is specious.

So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

(04-25-2017 12:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  One can only speculate that it's simply a "100 days" photo op or some sore of Apprentice type promo.

You have no evidence of such.

Hence the word "speculate".
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Big fail. Your lack of documentation means that anything from those sources has no credibility. Your exaggerations force people to look more seriously at what he has done right. And your extremes discredit your side.

Its the same mentality that helped cost Hillary the election. There was absolutely nothing Donald Trump could have done to get me to vote for him. But Hillary and the MSM with their nutty attacks convinced me they were dangerous, extreme and incompetent and that I had to vote for Trump to stop them.

Trump is at 96% approval among those who voted for him. That's pretty high. You are preaching only to your own choir and strengthening him among those who voted for him.

(04-26-2017 10:41 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:Convincing the posters here of impeachment isn't the end goal of your posts?

My goal in regards to Trump is to document everything that he has done so as to make it more and more difficult for people on this forum to support him.

Quote:Your definition of "trouble" is specious.

So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

(04-25-2017 12:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  One can only speculate that it's simply a "100 days" photo op or some sore of Apprentice type promo.

You have no evidence of such.

Hence the word "speculate".

Big fail. Your lack of documentation means that anything from those sources has no credibility. Your exaggerations force people to look more seriously at what he has done right. And your extremes discredit your side.

Its the same mentality that helped cost Hillary the election. There was absolutely nothing Donald Trump could have done to get me to vote for him. But Hillary and the MSM with their nutty attacks convinced me they were dangerous, extreme and incompetent and that I had to vote for Trump to stop them.

Trump is at 96% approval among those who voted for him. That's pretty high. You are preaching only to your own choir and strengthening him among those who voted for him.
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You can criticize the sources all you want but what you aren't doing is denying the facts. Trump either did or did not do the things I have posted. If he didn't do them, then simply post something that refutes that and I will acknowledge. You guys do none of that. Instead, you name call, make it personal etc etc.

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Dude it's the white house, it is only a few miles from the capitol building, it is just as (if not more) secure, and it has the facilities to have meetings with hundreds of people at a time.

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

(04-26-2017 01:45 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Dude it's the white house, it is only a few miles from the capitol building, it is just as (if not more) secure, and it has the facilities to have meetings with hundreds of people at a time.

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

Not according to the news. There was supposedly some security issues that they had to remodel in order to make it work.

(04-26-2017 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:45 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Dude it's the white house, it is only a few miles from the capitol building, it is just as (if not more) secure, and it has the facilities to have meetings with hundreds of people at a time.

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

Not according to the news.

Have we not learned anything?

(04-26-2017 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:45 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Dude it's the white house, it is only a few miles from the capitol building, it is just as (if not more) secure, and it has the facilities to have meetings with hundreds of people at a time.

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

Not according to the news. There was supposedly some security issues that they had to remodel in order to make it work.

And you know there were not security issues that would (1) happen at the capitol and (2) not be directly under Trumps control?

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

(04-26-2017 01:47 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:45 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Dude it's the white house, it is only a few miles from the capitol building, it is just as (if not more) secure, and it has the facilities to have meetings with hundreds of people at a time.

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

Not according to the news.

Have we not learned anything?

Apparently we haven't when we refuse to even acknowledge facts.

(04-26-2017 01:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:47 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Have we not learned anything?

Apparently we haven't when we refuse to even acknowledge facts.

Kinda like you won't acknowledge that Obama "invited" 36 congress critters to his televised health care summit at the WH back in 2010?

You forgot the biggest one LS

Russian meddling in elections? Nothing
Steve Bannon is a Nazi? Nothing
A "lost aircraft carrier?" Nothing
"March for Women?" Nothing
"March for Science?" Nothing
"Too much golfing?" Nothing
"Alternate facts?" Nothing
"Microaggressions?" Nothing
"Gay concentration camps?" Nothing

Reasons to vote for a democrat?
Nothing

(04-26-2017 01:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:47 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:46 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 01:45 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Dude it's the white house, it is only a few miles from the capitol building, it is just as (if not more) secure, and it has the facilities to have meetings with hundreds of people at a time.

When Obama held a televised summit with congressional leaders in the runup to the AFA.... Where did he elect to have the 36 congress critters meet with him?

....

Ill wait on your answer...

Not according to the news.

Have we not learned anything?

Apparently we haven't when we refuse to even acknowledge facts.

Facts?

At least tell me you've learned to question all "facts" and not to take any "facts" at face value.

(04-26-2017 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:41 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:Convincing the posters here of impeachment isn't the end goal of your posts?

My goal in regards to Trump is to document everything that he has done so as to make it more and more difficult for people on this forum to support him.

Quote:Your definition of "trouble" is specious.

So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

(04-25-2017 12:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  One can only speculate that it's simply a "100 days" photo op or some sore of Apprentice type promo.

You have no evidence of such.

Hence the word "speculate".

Big fail. Your lack of documentation means that anything from those sources has no credibility. Your exaggerations force people to look more seriously at what he has done right. And your extremes discredit your side.

Its the same mentality that helped cost Hillary the election. There was absolutely nothing Donald Trump could have done to get me to vote for him. But Hillary and the MSM with their nutty attacks convinced me they were dangerous, extreme and incompetent and that I had to vote for Trump to stop them.

Trump is at 96% approval among those who voted for him. That's pretty high. You are preaching only to your own choir and strengthening him among those who voted for him.

You can criticize the sources all you want but what you aren't doing is denying the facts. Trump either did or did not do the things I have posted. If he didn't do them, then simply post something that refutes that and I will acknowledge. You guys do none of that. Instead, you name call, make it personal etc etc.
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Even when its facts, the point is that there is no "there," there. Its a big, "so what?"

Quote:Sen. John Barrasso (R., Wyo.) told MSNBC the meeting was "very consequential" and included discussion of North Korea's shift from liquid to solid fuel missiles, and improving nuclear weapons and missile capabilities.

Barrasso said he favors increasing sanctions, including sanctions on China.

Sen. Chris Coons (D., Del.) called the session "very clear-eyed, sober and serious."

Coons told MSNBC the administration is working to avoid a conflict and "making it clear to China how serious we are about preventing North Korea from developing the capability to deliver a nuclear warhead by ICBM against the United States or one of our key allies, and that there are real efforts being made to avoid a misunderstanding or miscalculation because I do think this is a very dangerous circumstance and situation."

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/...at-urgent/

Democrat Dismisses North Korea Briefing As A ‘Photo Op’

Quote:Chris Murphy‏Verified account
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On board the bus to the 100 days photo op/North Korea briefing.

Party over country.

Quote:Sen. Chris Murphy on Wednesday was not impressed with President Trump’s display of urgency about the threat of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program.

“On board the bus to the 100 days photo op/North Korea briefing,” the Connecticut Democrat tweeted Wednesday while shuttling to the White House.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and other members of Trump’s national security team met with all 100 senators on Wednesday to update them on the North Korean threat, as part of a blitz of diplomatic and congressional engagement designed to produce increased international pressure on the rogue regime. Tillerson will also chair a meeting of the UN Security Council on Friday, following a Trump-led working lunch with diplomats from the Security Council nations on Monday.

“I don’t want to say this is all about optics, but there is clearly a message coming out of this week,” State Department deputy spokesman Mark Toner told reporters. “There’s a clear message being sent that this is front and center on our national security radar.”

Still, the Senate briefing should feature insight into the military options available regarding North Korea, he added.

"The secretary, as well as the others who will be participating in these [briefings], will just attempt to frame how we've gotten to this point that we're looking at, this shift in our policy, that there is an urgency here that there necessarily wasn't a year or so ago, and basically laying out the rationale behind our increasing concern over North Korea's behavior," Toner said. "And, I think, looking at efforts to apply pressure across a number of fronts. That includes diplomatic, that includes economic, it could include military as well, in order to force Pyongyang — or [rather] convince Pyongyang to negotiate."

That's in addition to briefings that lawmakers receive in their natural Capitol Hill habitat, where the top U.S. commander in the Pacific suggested that Congress should enhance the defenses of Hawaii to protect against North Korean missiles.

"I believe the missile interceptors that we have to defend our homeland directly in Alaska and California are critical," Adm. Harry Harris told the House Armed Services Committee on Wednesday. "I have suggested that we consider putting interceptors in Hawaii that defend Hawaii directly and we look at defensive Hawaii radar that improve Hawaii's capability."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/democr...le/2621376

(04-26-2017 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  what you aren't doing is denying the facts. Trump either did or did not do the things I have posted.

w... t... f... ?????
do you even read the stupid **** you type before you hit post?



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(04-25-2017 01:26 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  My goal in regards to Trump is to document everything that he has done so as to make it more and more difficult for people on this forum to support him.

All media and Democrat reactions to Trump in general have all been of the "boy who cried wolf" variety.

Russian meddling in elections? Nothing
Steve Bannon is a Nazi? Nothing
A "lost aircraft carrier?" Nothing
"March for Women?" Nothing
"March for Science?" Nothing
"Too much golfing?" Nothing
"Alternate facts?" Nothing
"Microaggressions?" Nothing
"Gay concentration camps?" Nothing

Democrats aren't interested in what Trump or his supporters have to say, or even in having a reasonable dialog with the President or his supporters. It's nothing but "shut up or we'll shut you up!". This is what the current iteration of dialed-up-to-11 liberal "document everything that he has done" rhetoric is designed to do.

And it is failing. Regular Americans just don't believe liberals anymore.

(04-25-2017 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So you don't think it would have been easier for Trump to go over there than for 100 Senators to come to him?

Are you on the President's security team? Are you part of his advance planning? Maybe, just maybe, it was easier for the President to meet at the White House. That is a perfectly appropriate reason for..........................meeting at the White House.

(04-25-2017 12:04 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Hence the word "speculate".

Why did you leave out where you wrote "one can only" speculate?

Because in my cursory understanding of the adjective "only" it means "sole, single, one (and only), solitary, lone, unique; exclusive"

but it's his "goal"

what posts he's trying to shoot through is where the fail immediately begins and ends....

Go easy on Fit. After the last 8 years he's befuddled that a President would reach across party lines and be inclusive by inviting everyone into his home.

He apparently also does not understand meeting leverage and control. When you want to delivery a difficult message you do it on your home turf. When you're selling you go to the customer's office. Also doesn't understand time management. Trump is smart enough to realize that his time is the most valuable time. It's more efficient to have them come to him. Also seems to miss the point on security, which is not surprising for a Hillary supporter. This is basically a security briefing, which would be extremely atypical to have in the main chambers of the Senate.

So, Trump has an all inclusive meeting in a setting where he controls the flow, right down to seating, in an efficient and secure manner and Fit thinks it's a photo op. Again, don't blame him, his lack of business acumen is a combination of his silo life experience and choice of educational options.

(04-26-2017 10:07 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 12:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  what you aren't doing is denying the facts. Trump either did or did not do the things I have posted.

w... t... f... ?????
do you even read the stupid **** you type before you hit post?

Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that as well. It's like he thinks that just because he posted something those things actually happened. It's funny but kind of weird at the same time.