NASCAR's 14 time most popular driver has announced his retirement at the end of the season.

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/news-media/a...eason.html

He has had issues with concussions in recent years. So with him getting married it looks as if he may want to spend his married years without having to worry about health issues.

He's been a good spokesperson for the sport. He gets a lot of air time. Reckon he'll get a DW-Gordon-type of analysis gig?

(04-25-2017 09:02 AM)holyterror Wrote:  He's been a good spokesperson for the sport. He gets a lot of air time. Reckon he'll get a DW-Gordon-type of analysis gig?

He is Xfinity team owner so i guess he will look to expand his Xfinity team into Cup

Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. I would say he is an average driver at best. His last name opened a lot of doors for him and put him in some of the best equipment they offer. He was not good making second half adjustments to his car like several of the others in order to win races he had a shot at.

Wish him the best in life as he moves forward.

this is a sports board. racin aint a sport

(04-25-2017 03:36 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. I would say he is an average driver at best. His last name opened a lot of doors for him and put him in some of the best equipment they offer. He was not good making second half adjustments to his car like several of the others in order to win races he had a shot at.

Wish him the best in life as he moves forward.

Absolutely. Those 26 checkered flags he won were all handed to him because of his dad.

(04-25-2017 06:36 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 03:36 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. I would say he is an average driver at best. His last name opened a lot of doors for him and put him in some of the best equipment they offer. He was not good making second half adjustments to his car like several of the others in order to win races he had a shot at.

Wish him the best in life as he moves forward.

Absolutely. Those 26 checkered flags he won were all handed to him because of his dad.

Technically yes. Almost all of his wins came while at DEI, his Dad's race team. Moved on to Hendricks and never did return to same level as with DEI.

(04-25-2017 07:07 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:36 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 03:36 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. I would say he is an average driver at best. His last name opened a lot of doors for him and put him in some of the best equipment they offer. He was not good making second half adjustments to his car like several of the others in order to win races he had a shot at.

Wish him the best in life as he moves forward.

Absolutely. Those 26 checkered flags he won were all handed to him because of his dad.

Technically yes. Almost all of his wins came while at DEI, his Dad's race team. Moved on to Hendricks and never did return to same level as with DEI.

So you are saying because his dad was his car owner, he was given 20 checkered flags? His 4 straight wins at Dega were only because of Sr? His winning of the All Star race, the ONLY rookie to win it was a gift? His win at Daytona after his dad died was a gift as well? WOW. Dale Sr was quite a man. He got 42 other drivers and millions of dollars of sponsors to give Jr all those wins.

Steve Parks and Mikey all had the same equipment, yet Jr had all those wins. I guess Sr. gave Jr. that special set of matched tires.

(04-25-2017 08:13 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 07:07 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:36 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 03:36 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming. I would say he is an average driver at best. His last name opened a lot of doors for him and put him in some of the best equipment they offer. He was not good making second half adjustments to his car like several of the others in order to win races he had a shot at.

Wish him the best in life as he moves forward.

Absolutely. Those 26 checkered flags he won were all handed to him because of his dad.

Technically yes. Almost all of his wins came while at DEI, his Dad's race team. Moved on to Hendricks and never did return to same level as with DEI.

So you are saying because his dad was his car owner, he was given 20 checkered flags? His 4 straight wins at Dega were only because of Sr? His winning of the All Star race, the ONLY rookie to win it was a gift? His win at Daytona after his dad died was a gift as well? WOW. Dale Sr was quite a man. He got 42 other drivers and millions of dollars of sponsors to give Jr all those wins.

Steve Parks and Mikey all had the same equipment, yet Jr had all those wins. I guess Sr. gave Jr. that special set of matched tires.

Mikey has 2 Daytona 500 wins at DEI. And yes data his dad had accumulated did have a part to do with many of those wins.

DEI was getting information from Childless who was top dog at the time.

You cannot deny after each left DEI they did not produce as before.

Junior is a talented racer who isn't as great as his father but knows that and knows why he had the support he did. He's a genuinely likable person and definitely an above-average racer in his era.

Any other opinion is misguided and/or misinformed, and I say this as a person who disliked his father in his day.

women

(reports his new wife influenced his retirement)

what I was saying was if his last name didn't start with the letter E .... he wouldn't have had a ride and given the best equipment possible.

(04-27-2017 11:59 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Junior is a talented racer who isn't as great as his father but knows that and knows why he had the support he did. He's a genuinely likable person and definitely an above-average racer in his era.

Any other opinion is misguided and/or misinformed, and I say this as a person who disliked his father in his day.

For the most part. But he had his periods where he had sort of an attitude problem.

Joy riding his ATVs over a man's property which was being prepped for deer camp.

Going 60 mph up 51 in front of a school on his way to practice at MMSP.

Backing out of purchasing MMSP which caused DVD to end up moth balling the facility.

Cancelling an autograph session night before the event was scheduled disappointing fans who drove hours to see him. Even a dying lady who just wanted to meet him and give him a present. Reason he cancelled event was so he could fly out to go to a Kid Rock concert

He was far from perfect in his early career. Changed somewhat after he became a car owner. Also think his little fire incident in a sports car changed him a little.

Do recall that before Sr died they could not give away his souvenirs. Stopped off for fuel on way to track one night. Lady saw car on trailer and gave he a 1/2 inch pile of his Budweiser posters that they were going to throw out because no one wanted them.

He won't stay retired.

(04-27-2017 11:59 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Junior is a talented racer who isn't as great as his father but knows that and knows why he had the support he did. He's a genuinely likable person and definitely an above-average racer in his era.

Any other opinion is misguided and/or misinformed, and I say this as a person who disliked his father in his day.

Well put.

(04-27-2017 11:03 PM)TigerinFL Wrote:  what I was saying was if his last name didn't start with the letter E .... he wouldn't have had a ride and given the best equipment possible.

That is true with MOST 2nd generation drivers. The racing world is full of talented drivers. Getting discovered and getting the breaks to get the premium rides takes luck and having something to offer that the other drivers don't. Sometimes it's a wealthy family to help in funding, sometimes it's a last name. Sometimes it is both. Jr won 26 points paying races. Dominated restrictor plate races at 1 point. Is fan favorite and a media darling. He had a very successful career as a driver and I am certain he will do very well in the future as an owner. I look for him to be a Cup owner in the near future.

(04-28-2017 09:12 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 11:59 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Junior is a talented racer who isn't as great as his father but knows that and knows why he had the support he did. He's a genuinely likable person and definitely an above-average racer in his era.

Any other opinion is misguided and/or misinformed, and I say this as a person who disliked his father in his day.

For the most part. But he had his periods where he had sort of an attitude problem.

Joy riding his ATVs over a man's property which was being prepped for deer camp.

Going 60 mph up 51 in front of a school on his way to practice at MMSP.

Backing out of purchasing MMSP which caused DVD to end up moth balling the facility.

Cancelling an autograph session night before the event was scheduled disappointing fans who drove hours to see him. Even a dying lady who just wanted to meet him and give him a present. Reason he cancelled event was so he could fly out to go to a Kid Rock concert

He was far from perfect in his early career. Changed somewhat after he became a car owner. Also think his little fire incident in a sports car changed him a little.

Do recall that before Sr died they could not give away his souvenirs. Stopped off for fuel on way to track one night. Lady saw car on trailer and gave he a 1/2 inch pile of his Budweiser posters that they were going to throw out because no one wanted them.

I was at the test session at MMP the day he got that speeding ticket by OLS. PLEASE get your facts correct about the speed. A family friend gave him the ticket and even though it was against the rules, he gave me a copy of the ticket as a souvenir. It was a ticket for 45 mph in a 40. I am sure if we fact checked many of your other complaints, they would be incorrect as well. ANY business man knows MMP has been a money pit since OW opened it. Jr must have come to his senses and backed out of the purchase, IF that were ever his intentions.
The man tested for at MMP for several hours and then had a person come to the stands and invited every fan there to the pits for a visit. He sat and talked for over an hour with the fans. Took picture after picture and talked on the cell phone with many people that fans there called while in the pits. I go to his race shop every year during race week in Charlotte. The fans line up out the door and into the cove to see him.

Best driver ever? Na
Most wins? Na
Is he an Angel? Na
Fan favorite? Bigtime
Successful? You be the judge

(04-28-2017 09:58 AM)Claw Wrote:  He won't stay retired.

No way he tries to return. The concussion last year was a wake up call. It took him a long time to recover and he understands that concussion damage to the brain keeps getting worse with each concussion.

He will be 43 this Oct so he did not have too many years left as it is. Just 2 years younger than Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart..

(04-29-2017 02:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-28-2017 09:58 AM)Claw Wrote:  He won't stay retired.

No way he tries to return. The concussion last year was a wake up call. It took him a long time to recover and he understands that concussion damage to the brain keeps getting worse with each concussion.

He will be 43 this Oct so he did not have too many years left as it is. Just 2 years younger than Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart..

Yep, will be a Cup owner in a year or two. About the time Byron will be ready to go with him.

Not a bad career for a person that you labeled having a bad attitude and losing fans. Even though many of your facts were incorrect. The man accumulated an empire and a huge fortune mostly on his own since Teresa got a majority of Sr. money when he died. His last name helped but he had some talent and a lot of charisma to go along with it. Kerry had the same last name and had some ARCA success but that's about it. Kyle Petty had a great last name but didn't come close to the success that Jr. had.

(04-29-2017 09:07 AM)karter25 Wrote:  

(04-28-2017 09:12 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 11:59 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Junior is a talented racer who isn't as great as his father but knows that and knows why he had the support he did. He's a genuinely likable person and definitely an above-average racer in his era.

Any other opinion is misguided and/or misinformed, and I say this as a person who disliked his father in his day.

For the most part. But he had his periods where he had sort of an attitude problem.

Joy riding his ATVs over a man's property which was being prepped for deer camp.

Going 60 mph up 51 in front of a school on his way to practice at MMSP.

Backing out of purchasing MMSP which caused DVD to end up moth balling the facility.

Cancelling an autograph session night before the event was scheduled disappointing fans who drove hours to see him. Even a dying lady who just wanted to meet him and give him a present. Reason he cancelled event was so he could fly out to go to a Kid Rock concert

He was far from perfect in his early career. Changed somewhat after he became a car owner. Also think his little fire incident in a sports car changed him a little.

Do recall that before Sr died they could not give away his souvenirs. Stopped off for fuel on way to track one night. Lady saw car on trailer and gave he a 1/2 inch pile of his Budweiser posters that they were going to throw out because no one wanted them.

I was at the test session at MMP the day he got that speeding ticket by OLS. PLEASE get your facts correct about the speed. A family friend gave him the ticket and even though it was against the rules, he gave me a copy of the ticket as a souvenir. It was a ticket for 45 mph in a 40. I am sure if we fact checked many of your other complaints, they would be incorrect as well. ANY business man knows MMP has been a money pit since OW opened it. Jr must have come to his senses and backed out of the purchase, IF that were ever his intentions.
The man tested for at MMP for several hours and then had a person come to the stands and invited every fan there to the pits for a visit. He sat and talked for over an hour with the fans. Took picture after picture and talked on the cell phone with many people that fans there called while in the pits. I go to his race shop every year during race week in Charlotte. The fans line up out the door and into the cove to see him.

Best driver ever? Na
Most wins? Na
Is he an Angel? Na
Fan favorite? Bigtime
Successful? You be the judge

Where he was stopped is posted at 25 mph