(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 11:52 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote:  Ok. Let's get the facts straight.

Freshman Year: 8.3ppg and 4.3 rpg at Juco and didn't start a game. [1]

Sophomore Year: 8.9ppg and 4.0 rpg at JUCO, while only averaging 19.4 min per game. Started every game. [2]

Please stop talking smack about a kid. He's going to contribute on this team next year. He might not start but he's going to prove depth if we run like Tubby claims.

He had an offer from NM, and this late in the year it's good to pick up any big. We could of used a guy like him last year. If fact, we missed on Ngor Barnaba who started over him his freshman year at Missouri State-West Plains.

I know he's going to average 4 and 2, in 14 minutes next year. But that's going to help.

[1]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16...lparksmjwr
[2]: http://www.njcaa.org/sports/mbkb/2016-17...arksjr5i1l

Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

(04-26-2017 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

I'm not looking for stats here. Late bigs are hard to come by. We had a big need. He is a big. Evidently, the best the staff looked at, because the others are still waiting on offers from us. He gives us size in the middle to body-up Tacko and whoever Cincy runs out there. Role player who will hopefully be more valuable than the points he scores. He likely won't be the next Joey Dorsey.

(04-26-2017 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 12:13 PM)jgardne Wrote:  Is posting stats talking smack?

If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

(04-26-2017 09:36 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 01:20 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  If the stats are correct, it would help.

First he averaged 9 in HS, which was wrong, then he never started a game in JuCo, which was also wrong. Next he's gonna have a hook for a hand and two club feet.

Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

(04-26-2017 09:38 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:36 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 06:47 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Hawthorne, their leading rebounder, signed with MTSU.

Sikes, their leading scorer and 2nd leading rebounder, signed with South Alabama.

Their 3rd leading rebounder has been offered by Nichols State.

Their 11 and 5 guy (2nd leading scorer, 4th leading rebounder), Emanuel Thompson, signed with Morehead State.

Their 9 and 4 guy (3rd leading scorer and 6th leading rebounder), Mike Parks, signed with the University of Memphis.

Per Minute Stats please...

Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

(04-26-2017 09:45 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:38 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:36 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-25-2017 10:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Per Minute Stats please...

Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

lol His thoughts are not banned.

(04-26-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:45 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:38 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:36 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 06:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Bottom line with Parks:

His peer comparison out of high school (Parks 22 ppg, Kaba Camara 21 ppg), Kaba Camara, averaged 1.0 ppg and 1.5 rpg at Cal-State Northridge.

His frosh year of JUCO, he played with Ngor Barnaba. Barnaba got more PT than Parks and averaged 15 and 7. Parks averaged 8 and 4. Adjusted for minutes, they had about the same pts/40 and reb/40. Barnaba then went to Utah State and averaged 3.0 and 2.7 as a junior.

His peers on his last JUCO team (most with more minutes per game and better pts and rebound numbers) are attending or offered by the likes of MTSU, South Alabama, Morehead State, and Nichols State.

Finally, the typical JUCO transition to D1 is (at best) performing at 1/2 of the output of JUCO. That would mean Parks, at best, should be expected to put up 4.5 and 2.0.

I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

lol His thoughts are not banned.

Unfortunate. He's a friend of the program.

(04-26-2017 09:48 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:45 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:38 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:36 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

lol His thoughts are not banned.

Unfortunate. He's a friend of the program.

I know.

#448 http://csnbbs.com/thread-815062-page-23.html

(04-26-2017 09:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:48 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:45 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:38 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

lol His thoughts are not banned.

Unfortunate. He's a friend of the program.

I know.

#448 http://csnbbs.com/thread-815062-page-23.html

One day, I'll be cool enough to be banned. #aspirations

(04-26-2017 09:48 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:45 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:38 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:36 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  I fail to see what Kaba Camara, whoever he is, has to do with anything. Could be a million variables there, size, school, division, athletic ability, etc.

As for his peers on his JuCo team, the leading scorer was a 6'1" 2 guard. UNC isn't lining up for 6'1" 2 guards. Schools are looking for 6'9" guys with some mobility though, especially when they need size.

I also like the last paragraph, where you say the "typical" Juco averages half his stats and then add on "at best" as if that is the ceiling for every single player. Some of those guys average way less, some do fine.

Success for this kid is 6 and 4 with a block shot sprinkled in the mix. That's not a stretch.

take it up with saloogi, his words not mine

He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

lol His thoughts are not banned.

Unfortunate. He's a friend of the program.

That's funny

(04-26-2017 10:27 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:48 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:45 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  He's banned, not sure what brought that about, but SMH

lol His thoughts are not banned.

Unfortunate. He's a friend of the program.

I know.

#448 http://csnbbs.com/thread-815062-page-23.html

One day, I'll be cool enough to be banned. #aspirations

As someone who spent a long time locked up without parole, that is until Georgia Tech Swagger came along let me out, it's not any fun.

(04-26-2017 10:39 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 10:27 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:48 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(04-26-2017 09:46 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  lol His thoughts are not banned.

Unfortunate. He's a friend of the program.

I know.

#448 http://csnbbs.com/thread-815062-page-23.html

One day, I'll be cool enough to be banned. #aspirations

As someone who spent a long time locked up without parole, that is until Georgia Tech Swagger came along let me out, it's not any fun.

Eh, I'd get back 30 minutes to an hour of my day that I could be productive ....