(04-27-2017 10:57 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Either way, the AAC shouldn't be seen again for at least two weeks.

(04-29-2017 06:19 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Cincinnati of the AAC is in at 118.

And here is what Matt Brown of SoE thinks of Cincy.

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76. Cincinnati. If nothing else, Cincinnati's coach won't be screaming at fans to "GET A JOB." Longtime Ohio State assistant Luke Fickell will try to revive the Bearcats, who have won nine-plus games in seven of the past 10 seasons but fell to 4-8 with a lifeless offense.
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Wow! Preseason rankings! 118 vice 76. Hell of a spread. Maybe splitting the difference at 97 would be the best call.

(04-29-2017 07:32 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:57 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Either way, the AAC shouldn't be seen again for at least two weeks.

(04-29-2017 06:19 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Cincinnati of the AAC is in at 118.

Honestly, really unexpected. He has Cinci worse than teams such as Idaho, Miami (OH), Indiana, Purdue, FIU, FAU, RUTGERS (seriously?), Boston College...

I think this is a typical wtf pick by murschell. He has no basis behind his picks, and the only rationale behind it, sometimes, seems to be to cause controversy. There've been plenty in the past regarding other conferences. He tends to be wrong more often than not.

(04-29-2017 11:31 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-29-2017 07:32 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:57 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Either way, the AAC shouldn't be seen again for at least two weeks.

(04-29-2017 06:19 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Cincinnati of the AAC is in at 118.

Honestly, really unexpected. He has Cinci worse than teams such as Idaho, Miami (OH), Indiana, Purdue, FIU, FAU, RUTGERS (seriously?), Boston College...

I think this is a typical wtf pick by murschell. He has no basis behind his picks, and the only rationale behind it, sometimes, seems to be to cause controversy. There've been plenty in the past regarding other conferences. He tends to be wrong more often than not.

Teams in bold went to bowl games last year. Cincinnati did not. Don't see the problem here.

The Mountain West strikes again and C-USA moves to the top of the list. Utah State is in at 117. Here are the revised projected G5 average rankings.

C-USA 23.86
AAC 24.50
MWC 24.58
MAC 25.42
IND 32.75
SBC 35.42

AS OF:4/30/17

Includes Utah State at 117

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...-rankings/

117. Utah State
118. Cincinnati
119. Kansas
120. Illinois
121. UCONN
122. Kent State
123. Fresno State
124. GA State
125. UMASS
126. Charlotte
127. New Mexico State
128. Buffalo
129. Texas State
130. UAB

AAC - 2 UCONN (121), Cincinnati (118)
C-USA - 2 UAB (130), Charlotte (126)
MAC - 2 Buffalo (128), Kent State (122)
MT West - 2 Fresno State (123), Utah State (117)
Sun Belt - 3 Texas State (129), NM State (127), GA State (124)

Big 12 - 1 Kansas (119)
B1G - 1 Illinois (120)

Independent - 1 UMASS (125)

Right now, all I'm gathering from this is that our bottom programs may be better then the other G5 bottom programs.

We need our middle and top programs to also be better. This season, I think C-USA will be one of the top 2 G5 conferences. We have some programs moving in the right direction. I could see C-USA finishing with 8 or maybe 9 bowl eligible teams (WKU, LA Tech, MTSU, Southern Miss, North Texas, UTSA, ODU, Marshall, and maybe one of the Florida teams or Charlotte).

I don't know about 8-9 bowl games, but yes, CUSA football is definitely trending upward overall.

I totally noticed the bottom of C-USA getting "yanked" up this past season. Both ODU and Charlotte surprised me. This bodes really well for C-USA long-term. Some signature OOC wins are desperately needed.

With UCONN and Cincy down towards the bottom, it is more difficult to see how they make their case to the Big 12. I guess they remains bridesmaids for a while longer.

Last Years 2016 Orlando College Football Countdown
Just as a reference here is the 2016 list and rank for CUSA Schools (Record for 2015)

Give em' Hell... CUSA
1 Clemson ACC 14-1
2 Oklahoma Big 12 11-2
3 Alabama SEC 14-1
4 Notre Dame Independent 10-3
5 Oklahoma State Big 12 10-3
6 Florida State ACC 10-3
7 Ohio State Big Ten 12-1
8 UCLA Pac-12 8-5
9 Michigan Big Ten 10- 3
10 Baylor Big 12 10-3
11 Tennessee SEC 9-4
12 Stanford Pac-12 12-2
13 LSU SEC 9-3
14 Houston ACC 13-1
15 Michigan State Big Ten 12-2
16 Ole Miss SEC 10-3
17 USC Pac-12 8-6
18 Wisconsin Big Ten 10-3
19 North Carolina ACC 11-3
20 Oregon Pac-12 9-4
21 Florida SEC 10-4
22 Iowa Big Ten 12-2
23 Louisville ACC 8-5
24 Northwestern Big Ten 10-3
25 Miami ACC 8-5
26 Georgia SEC 10-3
27 Penn State Big Ten 7-6
28 TCU Big 12 11-2.
29 Pittsburgh ACC 8-5
30 Washington State Pac-12 9-4
31 Western Kentucky C-USA 12-2
32 Arkansas SEC 8-5
33 Boise State Mountain West 9-4
34 Utah Pac-12 10-6
35 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7
36 Virginia Tech ACC 7-6
37 Auburn SEC 7-6
38 Washington Pac-12 7-6
39 Texas A&M SEC 8-5
40 Temple AAC 10-4
41 Air Force Mountain West 8-6
42 Arizona Pac-12 7-6
43 Mississippi State SEC 9-4
44 Western Michigan MAC 8-5
45 USF AAC 8-5
46 Central Michigan MAC 7-6
47 Texas Big 12 5-7
48 Toledo MAC 10-2
49 San Diego State Mountain West 11-3
50 Northern Illinois MAC 8-6
51 Cincinnati AAC 7-6
52 Appalachian State Sun Belt 11-2
53 Bowling Green MAC 10-4
54 South Carolina SEC 3-9
55 Southern Miss C-USA 9-5
56 Georgia Southern Sun Belt 9-4
57 Marshall C-USA 10-3
58 West Virginia Big 12 8-5
59 Minnesota Big Ten 6-7
60 Colorado State Mountain West 7-6
61 Ohio MAC 8-5
62 Memphis AAC 9-4
63 Middle Tennessee C-USA 7-6
64 NC State ACC 7-6
65 Arkansas State Sun Belt 9-4
66 Louisiana Tech C-USA 9-4
67 Navy AAC 11-2
68 Duke ACC 8-5
69 BYU Independent 9-4
70 Texas Tech Big 12 7-6
71 UConn AAC 6-7
72 Utah State Mountain West 6-7
73 Arizona State Pac-12 6-7
74 Georgia Tech ACC 3-9
75 Kansas State Big 12 6-7
76 Tulsa AAC 6-7
77 Nevada Mountain West 7-6
78 Georgia State Sun 6-7
79 Kentucky SEC 5-7
80 California Pac-12 8-5
81 Indiana Big Ten 6-7
82 East Carolina AAC 5-7
83 Boston College ACC 3-9
84 Missouri SEC 5-7
85 Fresno State Mountain West 3-9
86 Syracuse ACC 4-8
87 FAU C-USA 3-9
88 New Mexico Mountain West 7-6
89 Troy Sun Belt 4-8
90 UCF AAC 0-12
91 San Jose State Mountain West 6-7
92 Buffalo MAC 5-7
93 Vanderbilt SEC 4-8
94 Idaho Sun Belt 4-8
95 Old Dominion C-USA 5-7
96 Maryland Big Ten 3-9
97 Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt 4-8
98 Virginia ACC 5-8
99 Texas-San Antonio C-USA 3-9
100 Akron MAC 8-5
101 Rutgers Big Ten 4-8
102 Colorado Pac-12 4-9
103 Wake Forest ACC 3-9
104 Ball State MAC 3-9
105 UTEP C-USA 5-7
106 Illinois Big Ten 5-7
107 Kent State MAC 3-9
108 Rice C-USA 5-7
109 South Alabama Sun Belt 5-7
110 Eastern Michigan MAC 1-11
111 Texas State Sun Belt 3-9
112 FIU C-USA 5-7
113 UNLV Mountain West 3-9
114 Iowa State Big 12 3-9
115 Charlotte C-USA 2-10
116 Oregon State Pac-12 2-10
117 Wyoming Mountain West 2-10
118 New Mexico State Sun Belt 3-9
119 Purdue Big Ten 2-10
120 Kansas BIG 12 0-12
121 Hawaii Mountain West 3-10
122 SMU AAC 2-10
123 Louisiana-Monroe Sun Belt 2-11
124 Miami (Ohio) MAC 3-9
125 Army Independent 2-10
126 Tulane AAC 3-9
127 North Texas Conference USA 1-11
128 UMass Independent 3-9

2017 link... http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...-rankings/

(04-30-2017 02:06 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  With UCONN and Cincy down towards the bottom, it is more difficult to see how they make their case to the Big 12. I guess they remains bridesmaids for a while longer.

I think history has shown that current football quality, when it comes to realignment, isn't as important as you're suggesting.

Where was Charlotte football ranked when you were invited to CUSA?

(04-30-2017 01:50 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  I totally noticed the bottom of C-USA getting "yanked" up this past season. Both ODU and Charlotte surprised me. This bodes really well for C-USA long-term. Some signature OOC wins are desperately needed.

C-USA has to take care of business when playing beatable AAC opponents like SMU, Cincinnati, Tulane, and post-Tom Herman Houston.

(04-30-2017 02:06 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  With UCONN and Cincy down towards the bottom, it is more difficult to see how they make their case to the Big 12. I guess they remains bridesmaids for a while longer.

There's a difference between a program and a team. A team exists in a single academic year. The program includes all factors from markets, revenues, intangibles, strength of all programs, location, etc.

Akron of the MAC is next up.

(04-30-2017 02:06 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  With UCONN and Cincy down towards the bottom, it is more difficult to see how they make their case to the Big 12. I guess they remains bridesmaids for a while longer.

No one is making a case right now. B12 isn't adding before the end of TV n Gor. and probably not even then.

If I were a fan of any of the schools listed so far, I would not be concerned. This poll is always fun to follow this time of year since real football is months away but it's not to be taken too seriously. I can't afford to take it seriously because my school will be on the list sooner rather than later.

Ahh, the MAC steps up with its third team, as Akron is in at 116. Here are the revised projected G5 average rankings.

C-USA 23.86
AAC 24.50
MWC 24.58
IND 32.75
MAC 34.63
SBC 35.42

AS OF: 5/1/17

Includes Akron at 116

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...-rankings/

116. Akron
117. Utah State
118. Cincinnati
119. Kansas
120. Illinois
121. UCONN
122. Kent State
123. Fresno State
124. GA State
125. UMASS
126. Charlotte
127. New Mexico State
128. Buffalo
129. Texas State
130. UAB

AAC - 2 UCONN (121), Cincinnati (118)
C-USA - 2 UAB (130), Charlotte (126)
MAC - 3 Buffalo (128), Kent State (122), Akron (116)
MT West - 2 Fresno State (123), Utah State (117)
Sun Belt - 3 Texas State (129), NM State (127), GA State (124)

Big 12 - 1 Kansas (119)
B1G - 1 Illinois (120)

Independent - 1 UMASS (125)

After Illinois came in at 120, I predicted either Rice or UTEP to make the list in the next five picks. Guess that means tomorrow we see one of them make their entry. If not, I'm thinking maybe ULM is up next for the Sun Belt. Hey, you never know, it might be East Carolina for the AAC. Or -- we could see another P5 team. Purdue maybe?

Is this fun or what? Only 117 more days until Stanford v. Rice! In Australia no less!

Geez cincinatti has fallen off

(05-01-2017 09:12 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  Geez cincinatti has fallen off

Uncle Matt relies heavily (to a fault) on a team's record from the previous year. Cincy crashed the last half the season last year to go 4-8. I don't expect them to be that bad this year. SoE has them at 76, and I believe that is likely to be much more accurate than the Sentinel's 118.