(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

Pops mistake is not matching Leonard on Conley. That's the Spurs only slowing of Mike.

(04-22-2017 10:15 PM)umtiger22 Wrote:  Great game but it didn't force game 5. That was going to happen regardless.

(04-22-2017 11:47 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I know it never would've happened in a million years, but say theoretically Gasol plays 1 year of college ball in 2008-2009 and somehow ends up playing for Cal at Memphis. I know he's night and day different from his rookie year, but could you imagine rookie Gasol teamed up with Anderson, Dozier, Sallie, and Tyreke? Pretty good starting 5. Throw in Witherspoon, Mack, Kemp, and Taggart off the bench.

Marc was not the player back then that he is now. Marc wouldn't have been a difference maker back then.

(04-22-2017 10:19 PM)UofMark Wrote:  Can you imagine that some people didn't want this?

and never will

oh well, who cares

The Grizz have forged a civic bond that is hard to top.

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

This has been happening since 2011. I've said it for a very long time. Traditionally, a huge percentage of our big money donors and season ticket holders are non-alumni types that have wanted to be a part of the biggest sporting event in town. Since 2011 that has very clearly been the Grizzlies by a very wide margin. Kids like me grew up with Keith Lee and Penny being the sports heroes of this city. Any kid between 12 and 22 or so is going to only know about the Core 4. There has been nothing the Tigers have offered since Cal left that can remotely compare.

The NBA is getting bigger and bigger while college hoops has long since had its pinnacle. The Grizz ownership and management clearly and wisely favor being competitive and a playoff team over blowing up the whole thing for a 1% chance of building a true title team. As long as the Grizz win 44 games and make the playoffs, it is going to be hard to top them playing in the AAC. That spells disastrous financial consequences for the Tigers fundraising abilities 10-20 years down the road when the current blue bloods start dying off.

(04-23-2017 12:43 AM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:47 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I know it never would've happened in a million years, but say theoretically Gasol plays 1 year of college ball in 2008-2009 and somehow ends up playing for Cal at Memphis. I know he's night and day different from his rookie year, but could you imagine rookie Gasol teamed up with Anderson, Dozier, Sallie, and Tyreke? Pretty good starting 5. Throw in Witherspoon, Mack, Kemp, and Taggart off the bench.

Marc was not the player back then that he is now. Marc wouldn't have been a difference maker back then.

He averaged 26 points points per game coming out of high school, went to Spain and won league MVP, and averaged almost 12 points his rookie year in the NBA. You don't think he would have been a difference maker vs a bunch of terrible college players?

Great block by Harrison...saved the game.

Horrendous mistake by the official scorer not re setting the twenty four second clock, a technical error, not a poor judgment call, that cost San Antonio the game.

(04-23-2017 11:32 AM)Mimi Wrote:  Great block by Harrison...saved the game.

Horrendous mistake by the official scorer not re setting the twenty four second clock, a technical error, not a poor judgment call, that cost San Antonio the game.

really? One play cost them the game? Come on.

(04-23-2017 11:25 AM)Crazier Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 12:43 AM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:47 PM)WColt45 Wrote:  I know it never would've happened in a million years, but say theoretically Gasol plays 1 year of college ball in 2008-2009 and somehow ends up playing for Cal at Memphis. I know he's night and day different from his rookie year, but could you imagine rookie Gasol teamed up with Anderson, Dozier, Sallie, and Tyreke? Pretty good starting 5. Throw in Witherspoon, Mack, Kemp, and Taggart off the bench.

Marc was not the player back then that he is now. Marc wouldn't have been a difference maker back then.

He averaged 26 points points per game coming out of high school, went to Spain and won league MVP, and averaged almost 12 points his rookie year in the NBA. You don't think he would have been a difference maker vs a bunch of terrible college players?

No. He was probably heavier than Pierre Niles coming out of high school.

(04-23-2017 05:41 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 10:19 PM)UofMark Wrote:  Can you imagine that some people didn't want this?

and never will

oh well, who cares

The Grizz have forged a civic bond that is hard to top.

A major league franchise simply galvanizes and energizes this city's and region's fan base

Grizz #1 in Memphis sports fan base

Close #2 Tigers hoops

Close #3 Tigers football, but immerging

(04-23-2017 12:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

Pops mistake is not matching Leonard on Conley. That's the Spurs only slowing of Mike.

Leonard was on him most of the fourth quarter.

Mike went by him easily.

(04-23-2017 06:55 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 12:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

Pops mistake is not matching Leonard on Conley. That's the Spurs only slowing of Mike.

Leonard was on him most of the fourth quarter.

Mike went by him easily.

Leonard was sucking wind HARD late in the game. Granted, he was still hitting the damned shots, but you have to wonder if he may have been overplayed during the stretch here in Memphis, and it affects him in the next games. He certainly wasnt able to keep up with Conley late in the game.

(04-23-2017 06:55 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 12:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

Pops mistake is not matching Leonard on Conley. That's the Spurs only slowing of Mike.

Leonard was on him most of the fourth quarter.

Mike went by him easily.

Leonard locked him down in the 4th. Conley did his work off mismatches from screens.

(04-23-2017 07:13 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 06:55 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 12:36 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

Pops mistake is not matching Leonard on Conley. That's the Spurs only slowing of Mike.

Leonard was on him most of the fourth quarter.

Mike went by him easily.

Leonard locked him down in the 4th. Conley did his work off mismatches from screens.

Extremely common. Can't count how many times I saw mismatches when SA had it out front. Conley would end up on Aldridge, with Gasol on Parker.

Part of the game.

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

That's a lack of knowledge about Coach Pop. He benched all his starters in Game 3 back in 2013. The bench then got them back in the game. The media is making a big deal about the current Game 3 since the substitutions didn't work this time around.

Also, the score was 55-46 Grizz when the Spurs starters were benched at the 11:07 mark. The score was 61-49 when Kawhi and Aldridge checked back in at the 8:26 mark. Basically the benching lasted 2:41 secs and the Grizz only outscored them by 3. The Grizz extended the lead to 18 by end of the 3rd Q with the Spurs stars playing most of the 3rd Q and extended the lead eventually to 22 in the early part of the 4th Q. The media had a fun time discussing the less than 3 min benching when truthfully the Grizz extended the lead further with the starters back. When Pop pulled the same thing in 2013 Game 3, no one raised an eyebrow cuz it worked.

(04-23-2017 09:11 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:42 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 11:25 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Sad all the sports Twitters take the time tonight to rightfully praise Leonard over and over again, but then they lose and I don't think I saw a single tweet outside of Memphis re: Conley. They spend all their time mocking his contract.

We must be following different national NBA writers as I saw at least two reference Conley, contract and how well he has played. But this aging team is not better than the Spurs. Pop made maybe a grave error in game 3 by pulling all of his starters with less than a minute into 3rd quarter with maybe a 8 point deficit which is nothing. Followed NBA for 40 years and never seen a coach try to send a message in a playoff game. He is getting full of himself.

Concerned there are so many kids at Grizz playoff games with their parents. If they get attached, losing wont make any difference down the road. They will always be Grizz fans first. Which will hurt the Tigers. There is a battle going on now for this generation of kids/parents and I think the last few years and next year we have lost the battle.

Amazing all the Tarik Black threads and not a single comment on DRose back in town and who CHOOSES to be introduced on the road as from the University of Memphis. After the lawsuit, who would blame him if he chose Chicago as he does for home games.

That's a lack of knowledge about Coach Pop. He benched all his starters in Game 3 back in 2013. The bench then got them back in the game. The media is making a big deal about the current Game 3 since the substitutions didn't work this time around.

Also, the score was 55-46 Grizz when the Spurs starters were benched at the 11:07 mark. The score was 61-49 when Kawhi and Aldridge checked back in at the 8:26 mark. Basically the benching lasted 2:41 secs and the Grizz only outscored them by 3. The Grizz extended the lead to 18 by end of the 3rd Q with the Spurs stars playing most of the 3rd Q and extended the lead eventually to 22 in the early part of the 4th Q. The media had a fun time discussing the less than 3 min benching when truthfully the Grizz extended the lead further with the starters back. When Pop pulled the same thing in 2013 Game 3, no one raised an eyebrow cuz it worked.

Facts kill!

(04-23-2017 03:27 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 11:32 AM)Mimi Wrote:  Great block by Harrison...saved the game.

Horrendous mistake by the official scorer not re setting the twenty four second clock, a technical error, not a poor judgment call, that cost San Antonio the game.

really? One play cost them the game? Come on.

You are right. The technical error- not a judgment error- cost them a possession at a point in the game where there were maybe one or two possessions per team left. It seriously damaged their chance to win- although of course they still had a chance. It was the technical part of the mistake that was embarrassing, not the idea of a missed call.

Harrison's play saved the game. Imagine they mistakenly called him for goaltending. Very late those calls have an impact.

(04-23-2017 06:40 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 05:41 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 10:19 PM)UofMark Wrote:  Can you imagine that some people didn't want this?

and never will

oh well, who cares

The Grizz have forged a civic bond that is hard to top.

A major league franchise simply galvanizes and energizes this city's and region's fan base

Grizz #1 in Memphis sports fan base

Close #2 Tigers hoops

Close #3 Tigers football, but immerging

Ebbs and Flows...

Memphis loves a winner...Tigers go to the final four and it won't even be close...

Every Street in Memphis will be deserted...No one at grocery stores, malls or anywhere. Place will be a ghost town. I don't think the Grizz ever get that level of love unless they make it to the 'ship.

(04-24-2017 05:05 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 06:40 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 05:41 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 10:19 PM)UofMark Wrote:  Can you imagine that some people didn't want this?

and never will

oh well, who cares

The Grizz have forged a civic bond that is hard to top.

A major league franchise simply galvanizes and energizes this city's and region's fan base

Grizz #1 in Memphis sports fan base

Close #2 Tigers hoops

Close #3 Tigers football, but immerging

Ebbs and Flows...

Memphis loves a winner...Tigers go to the final four and it won't even be close...

Every Street in Memphis will be deserted...No one at grocery stores, malls or anywhere. Place will be a ghost town. I don't think the Grizz ever get that level of love unless they make it to the 'ship.

Agreed! Tigers still come first. We just have to turn the program around.

(04-24-2017 05:05 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 06:40 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 05:41 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 10:19 PM)UofMark Wrote:  Can you imagine that some people didn't want this?

and never will

oh well, who cares

The Grizz have forged a civic bond that is hard to top.

A major league franchise simply galvanizes and energizes this city's and region's fan base

Grizz #1 in Memphis sports fan base

Close #2 Tigers hoops

Close #3 Tigers football, but immerging

Ebbs and Flows...

Memphis loves a winner...Tigers go to the final four and it won't even be close...

Every Street in Memphis will be deserted...No one at grocery stores, malls or anywhere. Place will be a ghost town. I don't think the Grizz ever get that level of love unless they make it to the 'ship.

I don't think many would argue that the Grizz have more fans overall. There is no question that there are more people in this city with a Tiger shirt or cap vs Grizz. That's what an additional 40 years of success will do. The big issue for the Tigers will be financial support. A lot of our biggest donors and premium ticket holders are not Tiger alumni or even from Memphis. It's always been that way. Their kids or grandkids are most likely Grizz fans first based upon the last 6 years of the respective teams performances. If that continues for another 4 years or so, you are looking at losing an entire generation of well heeled young adults who the Tigers will desperately need to replace their parents' support.