Just a quick impression of the QBs play in the scrimmage today.

santa seemed to be given first crack at things. He came up short. Sporadic accuracy.

graham showed why he is Graham. Master of the 5 yard out. No intermediate or deep touch.

childers was the only guy who improved his status in my opinion. Decent passes. Pretty agile for 230lbs.

hall can't hit the Astro turf from the sideline when passing. But man can he run. That throwing motion may need correcting.

thompson and rotherham will never see the field.

(04-22-2017 05:02 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick impression of the QBs play in the scrimmage today.

santa seemed to be given first crack at things. He came up short. Sporadic accuracy.

graham showed why he is Graham. Master of the 5 yard out. No intermediate or deep touch.

childers was the only guy who improved his status in my opinion. Decent passes. Pretty agile for 230lbs.

hall can't hit the Astro turf from the sideline when passing. But man can he run. That throwing motion may need correcting.

thompson and rotherham will never see the field.

Thanks Squirrel. Appreciate the update and insight.

And for Thompson or Rotherham we are only a season removed from thinking that Tommy Fielder would never see the field, let only start in the MAC Championship Game! Disasters do happen and it's never good when you have to go two deep, let alone five.

Again, thanks.

(04-22-2017 05:16 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 05:02 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick impression of the QBs play in the scrimmage today.

santa seemed to be given first crack at things. He came up short. Sporadic accuracy.

graham showed why he is Graham. Master of the 5 yard out. No intermediate or deep touch.

childers was the only guy who improved his status in my opinion. Decent passes. Pretty agile for 230lbs.

hall can't hit the Astro turf from the sideline when passing. But man can he run. That throwing motion may need correcting.

thompson and rotherham will never see the field.

Thanks Squirrel. Appreciate the update and insight.

And for Thompson or Rotherham we are only a season removed from thinking that Tommy Fielder would never see the field, let only start in the MAC Championship Game! Disasters do happen and it's never good when you have to go two deep, let alone five.

Again, thanks.

I don't mean to knock those two. Just wanted to evaluate them IMO as the last options. I was curious about Thompson, but my first impression wasn't great. No diamonds in the rough here. And Hall has a long way to go in the passing game. Childers was the best surprise today.

(04-22-2017 05:25 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 05:16 PM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 05:02 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick impression of the QBs play in the scrimmage today.

santa seemed to be given first crack at things. He came up short. Sporadic accuracy.

graham showed why he is Graham. Master of the 5 yard out. No intermediate or deep touch.

childers was the only guy who improved his status in my opinion. Decent passes. Pretty agile for 230lbs.

hall can't hit the Astro turf from the sideline when passing. But man can he run. That throwing motion may need correcting.

thompson and rotherham will never see the field.

Thanks Squirrel. Appreciate the update and insight.

And for Thompson or Rotherham we are only a season removed from thinking that Tommy Fielder would never see the field, let only start in the MAC Championship Game! Disasters do happen and it's never good when you have to go two deep, let alone five.

Again, thanks.

I don't mean to knock those two. Just wanted to evaluate them IMO as the last options. I was curious about Thompson, but my first impression wasn't great. No diamonds in the rough here. And Hall has a long way to go in the passing game. Childers was the best surprise today.

Agree with Squirrel about Childers. I liked his presence behind center. Didn't cave when the defense pressured him, kept his composure. I got the impression he could run, which I think he showed, but had questions about his arm. I saw him in practice two weeks ago and liked what I saw. Today, I thought he led the offense well. Knew when to run, when to throw, and I thought he threaded a couple of nice throws. He had a couple of miscues, but outside of that, looked good.

Also agree about Graham, although, he looked better at the end of the practice at the end. Seemed a little more authoritative.

(04-22-2017 05:02 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Just a quick impression of the QBs play in the scrimmage today.

santa seemed to be given first crack at things. He came up short. Sporadic accuracy.

graham showed why he is Graham. Master of the 5 yard out. No intermediate or deep touch.

childers was the only guy who improved his status in my opinion. Decent passes. Pretty agile for 230lbs.

hall can't hit the Astro turf from the sideline when passing. But man can he run. That throwing motion may need correcting.

thompson and rotherham will never see the field.

Childers did look the best. Seemed confident. Threw it away instead of forcing it. Looked like a qb. Nice touch on throws and patient runner.

Graham is up and down.

Santa was fast running. Also up and down.

Hall He is lightning fast as a runner but I agree his throwing motion changes everytime. He doesnt step into throws actually sidesteps which is odd. He is all upper body and whips it thus his accuracy is hit or miss. Had a terrible interception.
Hoping he gets redshirt to inprove mechanics.

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As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

You are right. Small sample size so if a kid had a bad day today doesn't mean he doesn't have a chance. Realistically with 6 qbs all battling consistency is critical though.

Also they have that offer to the ex-louisville qb which probably means they don't see a clear cut winner at this point. These are all young men who have 4 more months of growth before the first game.

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(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

(04-22-2017 08:09 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

It should be a three man race; and it is ridiculous to conclude anything until well into the fall. Each will improve, and hopefully someone will earn the spot. We even have to be hopeful for Hall, who maybe fast but is the furthest thing from a QB right now.

Mechanics cannot improve over a redshirt year. Glad for the updates. Sounds Like Graham starts and if he falters or gets hurt Santa/Childers

(04-22-2017 08:34 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Mechanics cannot improve over a redshirt year. Glad for the updates. Sounds Like Graham starts and if he falters or gets hurt Santa/Childers

Mechanics cannot improve in a year? Seems like a surprising statement. I'm hopeful they can.

Why dont u think they can improve?

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(04-22-2017 08:32 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 08:09 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

It should be a three man race; and it is ridiculous to conclude anything until well into the fall. Each will improve, and hopefully someone will earn the spot. We even have to be hopeful for Hall, who maybe fast but is the furthest thing from a QB right now.

Hope is a good thing---there was a time that Jordan Lynch was the furthest thing from a QB and didn't have the soundest throwing motion....that turned out quite well.

Thanks to all for the updates and thoughts....very much appreciated. Especially when we get a thread not dominated by negativity.

Forward Together Forward.

Was there any other positions or players who stood out? Would like to know how some of the skill positions looked as well as players on defense.

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(04-22-2017 09:24 PM)NIUTrekker Wrote:  Was there any other positions or players who stood out? Would like to know how some of the skill positions looked as well as players on defense.

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It was basically a practice and a very short controlled scrimmage (contact to the ball no tackling) IMO there was very little to take from this. At this stage the D knows the O's plays. Nice day, nice atmosphere, not much more.

(04-22-2017 08:32 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 08:09 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

It should be a three man race; and it is ridiculous to conclude anything until well into the fall. Each will improve, and hopefully someone will earn the spot. We even have to be hopeful for Hall, who maybe fast but is the furthest thing from a QB right now.

Maybe they'll start Childers and #burntheshirt on Hall for QB draw plays like they used Lynch at first.

(04-22-2017 08:09 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

Oh boy, that gives me flashbacks of the 3 headed QB rotation from a few years ago with McIntosh, Hare, and Maddie. I sure hope this doesn't go down that same path.

(04-22-2017 10:31 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 08:09 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

Oh boy, that gives me flashbacks of the 3 headed QB rotation from a few years ago with McIntosh, Hare, and Maddie. I sure hope this doesn't go down that same path.

That season turned out ok though didn't it.

(04-22-2017 10:50 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 10:31 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 08:09 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:54 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 07:36 PM)RitzHuskie Wrote:  As I said going into spring ball our best hope was that Childers would rise up and be the guy. It looks like that has now happened I only hope our coaching staff recognizes that. Start him now redshirt Hall and let Childers get a year under his belt before we play a tough schedule next year

Wow, you saw 50 minutes of football, 2 series with each QB and we have our future figured out; amazing!

To be fair, we've seen more than 50 minutes of Graham and Santa. I think at this point we are all looking for that third option. I won't speak for Ritz, but I evaluated Graham and Santa based on what I had already seen and looked for any signs of improvement. Then compared their play to the others. One outing doesn't define anyone, but you can only evaluate what you see in front of you. The QB position is a 3 man race IMO.

Oh boy, that gives me flashbacks of the 3 headed QB rotation from a few years ago with McIntosh, Hare, and Maddie. I sure hope this doesn't go down that same path.

That season turned out ok though didn't it.

Good point. Still, I don't think rotating 3 QBs throughout a game is a good idea.

Was wondering how Childers was looking. Kinda feel like he's the forgotten guy as everyone always talks about Graham & Santa. Hopefully he steps up & impresses enough to win the job.