Guys, the narrative is sinking in the national conscience. Everywhere I go, being debated on boards is whether the AAC is a power conference, or power 6. I've visited a lot of boards. Of course the G4ers naturally shoot it down, but it's still debated everywhere. No other G4 conference gets debated about in that way. Aresco has done a great job of hammering this home. The more and more it's talked about, the more and more the narrative gets driven home. Now we need a big year in football to finish the job.

Let me know when our conference makes $15 million a year per team and has an auto bid to an NY6 bowl. Otherwise all i hear is "blah blah P6 blah blah".

3, not six subs for e brah'

I'll have to agree with westhoff here

(04-20-2017 10:50 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Guys, the narrative is sinking in the national conscience. Everywhere I go, being debated on boards is whether the AAC is a power conference, or power 6. I've visited a lot of boards. Of course the G4ers naturally shoot it down, but it's still debated everywhere. No other G4 conference gets debated about in that way. Aresco has done a great job of hammering this home. The more and more it's talked about, the more and more the narrative gets driven home. Now we need a big year in football to finish the job.

Just out of curiosity, and the draft isn't for another week, I'll bite. Which boards? Are they national boards, P5 boards, or AAC/G5 boards?

(04-20-2017 10:50 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Guys, the narrative is sinking in the national conscience. Everywhere I go, being debated on boards is whether the AAC is a power conference, or power 6. I've visited a lot of boards. Of course the G4ers naturally shoot it down, but it's still debated everywhere. No other G4 conference gets debated about in that way. Aresco has done a great job of hammering this home. The more and more it's talked about, the more and more the narrative gets driven home. Now we need a big year in football to finish the job.

Agree. You have to make your own narrative.

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(04-21-2017 07:26 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-20-2017 10:50 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Guys, the narrative is sinking in the national conscience. Everywhere I go, being debated on boards is whether the AAC is a power conference, or power 6. I've visited a lot of boards. Of course the G4ers naturally shoot it down, but it's still debated everywhere. No other G4 conference gets debated about in that way. Aresco has done a great job of hammering this home. The more and more it's talked about, the more and more the narrative gets driven home. Now we need a big year in football to finish the job.

Just out of curiosity, and the draft isn't for another week, I'll bite. Which boards? Are they national boards, P5 boards, or AAC/G5 boards?

That's a great question. I've never seen "P6" on the big 10 board I frequently visit for mostly college wrestling, but also football. I don't hear about P6 on a NC school ACC boards. On here, CSN I've seen P6 mocked by CUSA fans.
I wish theres wasn't a P5, G5, P6 etc. there's 10 FBS football conferences, let's leave it at that...ok ESPN?

(04-21-2017 11:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 07:26 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-20-2017 10:50 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Guys, the narrative is sinking in the national conscience. Everywhere I go, being debated on boards is whether the AAC is a power conference, or power 6. I've visited a lot of boards. Of course the G4ers naturally shoot it down, but it's still debated everywhere. No other G4 conference gets debated about in that way. Aresco has done a great job of hammering this home. The more and more it's talked about, the more and more the narrative gets driven home. Now we need a big year in football to finish the job.

Just out of curiosity, and the draft isn't for another week, I'll bite. Which boards? Are they national boards, P5 boards, or AAC/G5 boards?

That's a great question. I've never seen "P6" on the big 10 board I frequently visit for mostly college wrestling, but also football. I don't hear about P6 on a NC school ACC boards. On here, CSN I've seen P6 mocked by CUSA fans.
I wish theres wasn't a P5, G5, P6 etc. there's 10 FBS football conferences, let's leave it at that...ok ESPN?

Agreed, but I still think that the general population doesn't really know our conference. They think Navy is still independent, that ECU and Houston are still in C-USA, that Cincy plays basketball in the Big East...

(04-21-2017 12:12 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 11:55 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 07:26 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(04-20-2017 10:50 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Guys, the narrative is sinking in the national conscience. Everywhere I go, being debated on boards is whether the AAC is a power conference, or power 6. I've visited a lot of boards. Of course the G4ers naturally shoot it down, but it's still debated everywhere. No other G4 conference gets debated about in that way. Aresco has done a great job of hammering this home. The more and more it's talked about, the more and more the narrative gets driven home. Now we need a big year in football to finish the job.

Just out of curiosity, and the draft isn't for another week, I'll bite. Which boards? Are they national boards, P5 boards, or AAC/G5 boards?

That's a great question. I've never seen "P6" on the big 10 board I frequently visit for mostly college wrestling, but also football. I don't hear about P6 on a NC school ACC boards. On here, CSN I've seen P6 mocked by CUSA fans.
I wish theres wasn't a P5, G5, P6 etc. there's 10 FBS football conferences, let's leave it at that...ok ESPN?

Agreed, but I still think that the general population doesn't really know our conference. They think Navy is still independent, that ECU and Houston are still in C-USA, that Cincy plays basketball in the Big East...

a lot of casual UConn fans still think we are in the big east lol

P5 have their own table with the NCAA. Y'all are not there.....Lol....funny. Really pathetic but funny.

(04-22-2017 12:40 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  P5 have their own table with the NCAA. Y'all are not there.....Lol....funny. Really pathetic but funny.

That's what you want to believe...but then there is reality.

P6
SEC
B1G
B12
Pac
ACC
AAC
+ND




G4
CUSA
Sunbelt
MWC
MAC
+ other independent


The team revenues, attendance, etc all support this divide.

(04-22-2017 12:40 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  P5 have their own table with the NCAA. Y'all are not there.....Lol....funny. Really pathetic but funny.

Angry G4 fan

We have somewhat separated from G4 but are not part of P6. Next step is TV, If we only jump 1 or 2 mil per year per school We are not remotely close to P6. If we can add $4mil or more per school, There is no doubt we are not G5, but we still have a ways to go. but should be in conversation.

Aren't Bowl game opponents up to the Bowl Committees? No matter what we are paid, the committees don't have to recognize a P6. I guess we could get a NY8 'guarantee' if that comes to fruition. The only benefit I see from more money is more money, period. Of course that helps. The only path to semi-parity I see is the breakup of the BigXII and them absorbing some of us or us absorbing all of the left overs and becoming P5th.

(04-22-2017 07:21 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 12:40 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  P5 have their own table with the NCAA. Y'all are not there.....Lol....funny. Really pathetic but funny.

That's what you want to believe...but then there is reality.

P6
SEC
B1G
B12
Pac
ACC
AAC
+ND




G4
CUSA
Sunbelt
MWC
MAC
+ other independent


The team revenues, attendance, etc all support this divide.

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Been away for a while and can't tell how much of this thread is snark. Forgive me if I've taken the bait. The P5 category/label stems from contract bowls and autonomy politics...similar to the old BCS/non-BCS structure. Perception, however, can be media driven. In years past, the MWC was portrayed as an equal to or better than the conference deemed the "Big Least" (even though the BE performed better than other BCS conferences). Similarly, the AAC has been mentioned as a tweener and P5 1/2 by some media outlets. However, P6 status is more than just perception or stickers on a helmet. On the field performance solidifies tweener status...P6, not so much.

JMHO

(04-22-2017 08:23 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Been away for a while and can't tell how much of this thread is snark. Forgive me if I've taken the bait. The P5 category/label stems from contract bowls and autonomy politics...similar to the old BCS/non-BCS structure. Perception, however, can be media driven. In years past, the MWC was portrayed as an equal to or better than the conference deemed the "Big Least" (even though the BE performed better than other BCS conferences). Similarly, the AAC has been mentioned as a tweener and P5 1/2 by some media outlets. However, P6 status is more than just perception or stickers on a helmet. On the field performance solidifies tweener status...P6, not so much.

JMHO

Some snark, some I suspect really believe there's a P6. Some are trying to promote the conference for a better media deal in 2020, which I respect. I use the past as an example though. That's why I'm not excited. The MWC between 2004 and 2010 wasn't just better than the Big Least some years. There were years when it was better than the ACC and the PAC.....They got little traction for the BCS, until they got so good they couldn't be ignored. The second they did look like they were going to the BCS? Raided. There will be a P4 before there is a P6. Mike Aresco does make a P5 salary though.

I thought he was on a P4 salary?

(04-22-2017 10:40 PM)one headlight Wrote:  I thought he was on a P4 salary?

P4 huh? I take it you either hate the ACC or most likely the Big 12....Am I right?

(04-22-2017 10:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 08:23 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Been away for a while and can't tell how much of this thread is snark. Forgive me if I've taken the bait. The P5 category/label stems from contract bowls and autonomy politics...similar to the old BCS/non-BCS structure. Perception, however, can be media driven. In years past, the MWC was portrayed as an equal to or better than the conference deemed the "Big Least" (even though the BE performed better than other BCS conferences). Similarly, the AAC has been mentioned as a tweener and P5 1/2 by some media outlets. However, P6 status is more than just perception or stickers on a helmet. On the field performance solidifies tweener status...P6, not so much.

JMHO

Some snark, some I suspect really believe there's a P6. Some are trying to promote the conference for a better media deal in 2020, which I respect. I use the past as an example though. That's why I'm not excited. The MWC between 2004 and 2010 wasn't just better than the Big Least some years. There were years when it was better than the ACC and the PAC.....They got little traction for the BCS, until they got so good they couldn't be ignored. The second they did look like they were going to the BCS? Raided. There will be a P4 before there is a P6. Mike Aresco does make a P5 salary though.

Don't have the answers, but agree with what your saying.