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RE: Murray St to MVC?
Summit Division (NDSU, SDSU, USD, UND, Western Illinois plus Youngstown)
MVC Division (Missouri St, Illinois St, Southern Illinois, UNI, Indiana State, Murray St)

Western Illinois will scream the most bloody murder.
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
Murray St won't move this fall, but in 2018.

Valpo would move this fall and becomes the 10th team.

Another team could be on the table for a 12th school in 2018. MplsBison will have a complete conniption, because it will be NDSU.

The OVC backfills with DII Lindenwood, which has fb.
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
MVC has 10 teams now, and is only losing 1.

It will only add Murray St, for now, and call it a day.

Guessing it will move for 2017-18, with football remaining as an affiliate in the OVC for 2017.


(04-20-2017 04:18 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Summit Division (NDSU, SDSU, USD, UND, Western Illinois plus Youngstown)
MVC Division (Missouri St, Illinois St, Southern Illinois, UNI, Indiana State, Murray St)

Western Illinois will scream the most bloody murder.

No, Youngstown would, in that scenario.

It's not a game of MVC vs everyone else ... it's a game of minimizing travel distance.
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
1 St Lious, you gotta give them offer they can't refuse
2 UW-Mill
3 Murry St
4 Valpo or UMKC
3 of 5 for 12
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
(04-20-2017 04:44 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  MVC has 10 teams now, and is only losing 1.

It will only add Murray St, for now, and call it a day.

Guessing it will move for 2017-18, with football remaining as an affiliate in the OVC for 2017.


(04-20-2017 04:18 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Summit Division (NDSU, SDSU, USD, UND, Western Illinois plus Youngstown)
MVC Division (Missouri St, Illinois St, Southern Illinois, UNI, Indiana State, Murray St)

Western Illinois will scream the most bloody murder.

No, Youngstown would, in that scenario.

It's not a game of MVC vs everyone else ... it's a game of minimizing travel distance.

Youngstown flys to every MVFC game. Every team flys to Youngstown. They are the true outlier.
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
(04-20-2017 04:12 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Another thing I wonder ... would MVFC split into "scheduling divisions" for the sake of reducing travel?

Dakota 4 + UNI + WIU
The rest

You play the five in your division every year, then rotate three and three in the other division over four years.


UNI would scream bloody murder, and kick and cry. Might have to put Missouri St in the Dakota division instead.

I'd want western in our division
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
You should look at Jeff Bidwell's facebook video today on the subject.
https://www.facebook.com/ImAnOhioGuy/

Invite has not happened, this is a preliminary step should any invite come. Wont happen tomorrow

Still hearing it's Valpo and Murray. Two not one.
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
(04-20-2017 05:02 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Youngstown flys to every MVFC game. Every team flys to Youngstown. They are the true outlier.

That is a fair point. But still, just because you get on a plane doesn't mean you can instantaneously teleport there. Farther distance is more cost, and longer flight.


(04-20-2017 05:06 PM)SC-IL73 Wrote:  I'd want western in our division

I just put them there to be with the other Summit teams.

But like MissouriBears was saying, Western probably would want to be with Illinois schools and UNI.



The easiest and safest thing to do, I guess, is not to have any scheduling divisions and just rotate through all the opponents with no particular bias to distance.
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
(04-20-2017 05:10 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  You should look at Jeff Bidwell's facebook video today on the subject.
https://www.facebook.com/ImAnOhioGuy/

Invite has not happened, this is a preliminary step should any invite come. Wont happen tomorrow

Still hearing it's Valpo and Murray. Two not one.

Regardless if it happens tomorrow or next month ... it seems the safest play. It checks all these boxes:

- simple 1 for 1 replacement, getting them back to 10
- replaces a public for a public
- reasonably within footprint
- decent bball

- and has football to boot, which swings the balance of power in the MVFC back to the MVC schools
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RE: Murray St to MVC?
(04-20-2017 05:10 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  You should look at Jeff Bidwell's facebook video today on the subject.
https://www.facebook.com/ImAnOhioGuy/

Invite has not happened, this is a preliminary step should any invite come. Wont happen tomorrow

That's bureaucrat-speak.

"No offer has been made, this is just a preliminary step" = if and when the MVC does offer, the university president is authorized to accept the offer without needing to go back to the board.
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