tigerderek
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
Does any of this even matter? Still going to be average when tubby retires...if he ever turns it around he'll be about as old as yoda...just need the right hire is all and so far we haven't done it since 2008.
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Motor City Sam
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
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3rdgenerationtiger
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-18-2017 12:04 PM)tigerderek Wrote: Does any of this even matter? Still going to be average when tubby retires...if he ever turns it around he'll be about as old as yoda...just need the right hire is all and so far we haven't done it since 2008.
Yoda was still badass.
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fsquid
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-17-2017 03:14 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote: Who the hell is he?
lead singer of Sexual Chocolate.
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SigEpMike
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-18-2017 12:41 PM)fsquid Wrote: (04-17-2017 03:14 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote: Who the hell is he?
lead singer of Sexual Chocolate.
That's his brother Randy.
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fsquid
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
I get them mixed up
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
"Just Whine Baby"
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-18-2017 12:41 PM)fsquid Wrote: (04-17-2017 03:14 PM)UOFMGLENN Wrote: Who the hell is he?
lead singer of Sexual Chocolate.
Interesting. Sexual Chocolate is a porn site that I......never mind.
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SpiderMan79x
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-17-2017 03:14 PM)SigEpMike Wrote: I agree. People on message boards are causing the downfall of the program. It has nothing to do with a couple of bad hires, a complete inability by those in charge to relate to their players, the virtually non-existent recruitment of high-level players and the complete apathy that has set in on our fanbase. It's all because we don't collectively scream "Go Tigers!" every time we get kicked in the groin by the latest negative news story about the program.
Thank you. Isn't this the guy who was arrested for domestic abuse or something for throwing his wife through a window or along those lines?
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-18-2017 12:04 PM)Motor City Sam Wrote: There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
In a way, your message is the flip side of what you are accusing the CA of doing. No doubt you are aware that Tubby has been here for a year and there have been literally months of available days Tubby and/or his staff could have reached out. Yes, I know that exact day that Jeffries father made the statement was a dead period, but come on man, he has had a year to make contact and in a year he has contacted him ONCE, which is what the CA reported. The handful of people who have thrown out the "but it's a dead period" know exactly what they were doing.
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-17-2017 04:31 PM)Dynamos Wrote: I would bet a good amount of money that Leroy Watson Jr. is the OP
You can spell Rivals with SalRivs with an extra S left over. Just saying.
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
I don't think players are reading message boards anymore. Its whats on social media they are seeing.
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FlyingTiger2016
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-18-2017 05:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-18-2017 12:04 PM)Motor City Sam Wrote: There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
In a way, your message is the flip side of what you are accusing the CA of doing. No doubt you are aware that Tubby has been here for a year and there have been literally months of available days Tubby and/or his staff could have reached out. Yes, I know that exact day that Jeffries father made the statement was a dead period, but come on man, he has had a year to make contact and in a year he has contacted him ONCE, which is what the CA reported. The handful of people who have thrown out the "but it's a dead period" know exactly what they were doing.
They have been to his school 7 times.... Stop spreading FUD.
It's true that Tubby isn't as aggressive as the other coaches, like AK. But get your facts straight.
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Motor City Sam
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-18-2017 05:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-18-2017 12:04 PM)Motor City Sam Wrote: There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
In a way, your message is the flip side of what you are accusing the CA of doing. No doubt you are aware that Tubby has been here for a year and there have been literally months of available days Tubby and/or his staff could have reached out. Yes, I know that exact day that Jeffries father made the statement was a dead period, but come on man, he has had a year to make contact and in a year he has contacted him ONCE, which is what the CA reported. The handful of people who have thrown out the "but it's a dead period" know exactly what they were doing.
You actually proved my point with your comment. The "dead period" had nothing to do with why Smith hadn't been calling DJ Jeffries. Smith hadn't been calling DJ because DJ is a sophomore in high school, and coaches aren't allowed to call recruits directly until the end of their sophomore year. That's an NCAA rule. When DJ's father was saying that AK had been calling DJ regularly, he was actually letting the world know that AK had been violating NCAA rules. So, if Smith would have been calling DJ directly, as you advocate in your post, he would have also been committing a violation. The CA actually posted a follow up comment about this on Twitter, after running the original article.
The "dead period" aspect had to do with the idiocy of criticizing Smith for not recruiting during a time when the NCAA specifically forbids recruiting, like the day of the golf event.
Like I said, there is nothing wrong with criticism, as long as it is accurate and objective.
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-19-2017 08:07 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (04-18-2017 05:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-18-2017 12:04 PM)Motor City Sam Wrote: There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
In a way, your message is the flip side of what you are accusing the CA of doing. No doubt you are aware that Tubby has been here for a year and there have been literally months of available days Tubby and/or his staff could have reached out. Yes, I know that exact day that Jeffries father made the statement was a dead period, but come on man, he has had a year to make contact and in a year he has contacted him ONCE, which is what the CA reported. The handful of people who have thrown out the "but it's a dead period" know exactly what they were doing.
They have been to his school 7 times.... Stop spreading FUD.
It's true that Tubby isn't as aggressive as the other coaches, like AK. But get your facts straight.
No $100 handshakes?
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-19-2017 08:07 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (04-18-2017 05:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-18-2017 12:04 PM)Motor City Sam Wrote: There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
In a way, your message is the flip side of what you are accusing the CA of doing. No doubt you are aware that Tubby has been here for a year and there have been literally months of available days Tubby and/or his staff could have reached out. Yes, I know that exact day that Jeffries father made the statement was a dead period, but come on man, he has had a year to make contact and in a year he has contacted him ONCE, which is what the CA reported. The handful of people who have thrown out the "but it's a dead period" know exactly what they were doing.
They have been to his school 7 times.... Stop spreading FUD.
It's true that Tubby isn't as aggressive as the other coaches, like AK. But get your facts straight.
Oops, sorry. DJ Jeffries father said they had one conversation with DJ. I could have gone to his school 100 times, doesnt mean I have talked to DJ. Thanks though.
"D.J. Jeffries, considered the No. 5 recruit in the 2019 class by Scout.com, grew up a Tigers’ fan. He is a cousin of the Lawson family, lives just 30 minutes away from campus in Olive Branch, Miss., and went to middle school in nearby Cordova. So Corey Jeffries can’t understand why Smith has only spoken to his son once since taking over at Memphis last April."
(This post was last modified: 04-19-2017 12:19 PM by memtigbb.)
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RE: Leroy Watson Jr. calls out Tigers fans for whining
(04-19-2017 12:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-19-2017 08:07 AM)FlyingTiger2016 Wrote: (04-18-2017 05:46 PM)memtigbb Wrote: (04-18-2017 12:04 PM)Motor City Sam Wrote: There's nothing wrong with objective criticism of the program, and that includes criticizing the coaching staff and administration. I don't think the over the top personal attacks and spreading of false information serves any constructive purpose.
The Commercial Appeal published an article that was critical of Coach Smith not calling DJ Jeffries like some other coaches were. That drew a lot of reaction, pretty much all of it negative against Coach Smith, but the article didn't include the fact that calling DJ at the time would be an NCAA violation. Someone else posted a pic of Tubby Smith playing golf, leading to all kinds of criticism that he wasn't out recruiting, but the person posting the pic didn't point out that it was taken during a recruiting dead period and that Smith was at a University even for sponsors of Tiger Athletics. If you are going to criticize, you should at least be factual and accurate, especially if you are a member of the media.
As far as the players go, I don't criticize college kids on public message boards, but the same rules should apply.
Be accurate and objective. For people who are actual fans of the program, that shouldn't be hard to do.
In a way, your message is the flip side of what you are accusing the CA of doing. No doubt you are aware that Tubby has been here for a year and there have been literally months of available days Tubby and/or his staff could have reached out. Yes, I know that exact day that Jeffries father made the statement was a dead period, but come on man, he has had a year to make contact and in a year he has contacted him ONCE, which is what the CA reported. The handful of people who have thrown out the "but it's a dead period" know exactly what they were doing.
They have been to his school 7 times.... Stop spreading FUD.
It's true that Tubby isn't as aggressive as the other coaches, like AK. But get your facts straight.
Oops, sorry. DJ Jeffries father said they had one conversation with DJ. I could have gone to his school 100 times, doesnt mean I have talked to DJ. Thanks though.
"D.J. Jeffries, considered the No. 5 recruit in the 2019 class by Scout.com, grew up a Tigers’ fan. He is a cousin of the Lawson family, lives just 30 minutes away from campus in Olive Branch, Miss., and went to middle school in nearby Cordova. So Corey Jeffries can’t understand why Smith has only spoken to his son once since taking over at Memphis last April."
You and Corey need to study up on NCAA rules. You want to say he's not aggressive? Fine. But the devil's in the details. And you're lost on those.
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