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Maybe so, but at some point the player has to take responsibility. Dude had 3 chances. He obviously didn't care to follow the rules, so he needs to go. Can't win with players doing their own thing regardless of talent.

I wonder if UNCW needs a good wing.

Opens the door for our young snipers to come in and light it up. Welcome to college basketball Mr. Hueitt.

Was weed the issue?

I've always been a team-first guy. It was drilled into me during high school sports and even more in the military. That said, this constant churning of players is bizarre. It's unprecedented at ODU. It leads me to believe Jones has a problem. As my old Driil Sargeant said about repeated conflicts, "After a while, it's not everybody else."

(04-15-2017 04:22 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:30 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:26 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  The wrong person is leaving odu.

This is now a trend. One that needs to end with the coach.

Do you know why he was asked to leave (and if so are you saying he shouldn't have been dismissed) or does your hatred for Jones cloud your judgment on issues that involve the team?

I don't give a damn why he was kicked off the team, that's not the point.

The point is that yet another player has been kicked off the team during Jones's tenure. This pretty much assures yet another season with no NCAA's.

He needs to go himself, this is absurd and embarrassing.

So it's pure hatred of Jones. Got it.

It doesn't matter whether they all deserved to get kicked off the team or not. If they all deserved it, stop recruiting idiots, or do a better job engaging with the kids so they don't go astray, or whatever the issue is. If they don't deserve it, which I doubt is the case, that is a whole different issue. Either way, their are way too many dismissal and suspension to call this healthy whether you love JJ or want him gone.

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(04-15-2017 04:49 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Opens the door for our young snipers to come in and light it up. Welcome to college basketball Mr. Hueitt.

Agree. While I am very dishetened that this crap keeps happening, I was never the fan of Talley that many were. I can't say this is surprising, and am doubtful it makes a big difference in how good we are next season.

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(04-15-2017 04:44 PM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  Razor is right... This is a continuing trend with Coach Jones. Good coaches handle their players better than this.

Wrong....he made the choices he did. Sorry but this does not fall on coach. Talley did not do what he was suppose to do. He is an adult. College students especially athletes should not get special treatment.

Personally, after consulting with the many friends that follow ODU basketball with me, this program is headed nowhere...and fast. Woodie can you here me?

(04-15-2017 04:44 PM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  Razor is right... This is a continuing trend with Coach Jones. Good coaches handle their players better than this.

Like Bill Self, who just lets them play despite arrests and failed drug tests? Or like Baylor despite rapes? Talley was given three chances, how is this Jones fault?

(04-15-2017 05:28 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:22 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:30 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:26 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  The wrong person is leaving odu.

This is now a trend. One that needs to end with the coach.

Do you know why he was asked to leave (and if so are you saying he shouldn't have been dismissed) or does your hatred for Jones cloud your judgment on issues that involve the team?

I don't give a damn why he was kicked off the team, that's not the point.

The point is that yet another player has been kicked off the team during Jones's tenure. This pretty much assures yet another season with no NCAA's.

He needs to go himself, this is absurd and embarrassing.

So it's pure hatred of Jones. Got it.

It doesn't matter whether they all deserved to get kicked off the team or not. If they all deserved it, stop recruiting idiots, or do a better job engaging with the kids so they don't go astray, or whatever the issue is. If they don't deserve it, which I doubt is the case, that is a whole different issue. Either way, their are way too many dismissal and suspension to call this healthy whether you love JJ or want him gone.

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why doesn't anyone say this when we have football players kicked off?

(04-15-2017 04:22 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:30 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:26 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  The wrong person is leaving odu.

This is now a trend. One that needs to end with the coach.

Do you know why he was asked to leave (and if so are you saying he shouldn't have been dismissed) or does your hatred for Jones cloud your judgment on issues that involve the team?

I don't give a damn why he was kicked off the team, that's not the point.

The point is that yet another player has been kicked off the team during Jones's tenure. This pretty much assures yet another season with no NCAA's.

He needs to go himself, this is absurd and embarrassing.

So it's pure hatred of Jones. Got it.

I do not hate jones. I don't want him as our basketball coach. Never did, still don't.

Your total lack of understanding and comprehension is not the least bit surprising.

(04-15-2017 06:54 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 05:28 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:22 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:30 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  Do you know why he was asked to leave (and if so are you saying he shouldn't have been dismissed) or does your hatred for Jones cloud your judgment on issues that involve the team?

I don't give a damn why he was kicked off the team, that's not the point.

The point is that yet another player has been kicked off the team during Jones's tenure. This pretty much assures yet another season with no NCAA's.

He needs to go himself, this is absurd and embarrassing.

So it's pure hatred of Jones. Got it.

It doesn't matter whether they all deserved to get kicked off the team or not. If they all deserved it, stop recruiting idiots, or do a better job engaging with the kids so they don't go astray, or whatever the issue is. If they don't deserve it, which I doubt is the case, that is a whole different issue. Either way, their are way too many dismissal and suspension to call this healthy whether you love JJ or want him gone.

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why doesn't anyone say this when we have football players kicked off?

For one, the football team consistently gets to a meaningful postseason and wins games.

When BW does this everyone praises him for running a tight ship and holding kids to high standards but when JJ does it he's at fault?

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(04-15-2017 06:59 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  When BW does this everyone praises him for running a tight ship and holding kids to high standards but when JJ does it he's at fault?

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Winning changes perspectives.

I get it 1 of 85 is much easier to absorb. Maybe he was part of the reason the team lacked focus and looked defeated at times and he was the cancer on the team? I certainly don't know.

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(04-15-2017 06:54 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 05:28 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:22 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:30 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  Do you know why he was asked to leave (and if so are you saying he shouldn't have been dismissed) or does your hatred for Jones cloud your judgment on issues that involve the team?

I don't give a damn why he was kicked off the team, that's not the point.

The point is that yet another player has been kicked off the team during Jones's tenure. This pretty much assures yet another season with no NCAA's.

He needs to go himself, this is absurd and embarrassing.

So it's pure hatred of Jones. Got it.

It doesn't matter whether they all deserved to get kicked off the team or not. If they all deserved it, stop recruiting idiots, or do a better job engaging with the kids so they don't go astray, or whatever the issue is. If they don't deserve it, which I doubt is the case, that is a whole different issue. Either way, their are way too many dismissal and suspension to call this healthy whether you love JJ or want him gone.

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why doesn't anyone say this when we have football players kicked off?

Of course you would make this absurd comparison.

A basketball team has what, 1/6 or 1/7th the players the football team does?

Much harder to control the actions of nearly a hundred young men than it is 13.

Jones can't keep his house in order and even more importantly, the house is a dump.

We deserve a better butler.

(04-15-2017 06:11 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:44 PM)ODUBB12BB Wrote:  Razor is right... This is a continuing trend with Coach Jones. Good coaches handle their players better than this.

Wrong....he made the choices he did. Sorry but this does not fall on coach. Talley did not do what he was suppose to do. He is an adult. College students especially athletes should not get special treatment.

You are treating this as though it is not a regular occurrence for JJ's program.

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(04-15-2017 06:54 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 05:28 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 04:22 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:38 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2017 03:30 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  Do you know why he was asked to leave (and if so are you saying he shouldn't have been dismissed) or does your hatred for Jones cloud your judgment on issues that involve the team?

I don't give a damn why he was kicked off the team, that's not the point.

The point is that yet another player has been kicked off the team during Jones's tenure. This pretty much assures yet another season with no NCAA's.

He needs to go himself, this is absurd and embarrassing.

So it's pure hatred of Jones. Got it.

It doesn't matter whether they all deserved to get kicked off the team or not. If they all deserved it, stop recruiting idiots, or do a better job engaging with the kids so they don't go astray, or whatever the issue is. If they don't deserve it, which I doubt is the case, that is a whole different issue. Either way, their are way too many dismissal and suspension to call this healthy whether you love JJ or want him gone.

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why doesn't anyone say this when we have football players kicked off?

Because football is not doing it at a rate that seems unreasonable compared others.

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One obvious difference has to do with numbers. There are somewhere + - 80-90kids playing football, only 12-13 basketball. Sheer numbers make the possibility higher in football. But, I don't really remember the last kid kicked off the football team. Hasn't it been several years now?

(04-15-2017 06:59 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  When BW does this everyone praises him for running a tight ship and holding kids to high standards but when JJ does it he's at fault?

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I'd love to see the posts of where odu fans have been excited to see kids kicked off the football team because I'm pretty sure that never actually happened.

If we keep losing starters in the offseason to behavioral problems along with losing seniors and having people transfer out (along with his total inability to recruit freshmen big men) from a roster of 13 people we are going to continue to be mired in mediocrity, hovering around the 100 rpi mark.

Giles and the other odu "fans" continue to try and convince us that this is ok and the norm and nothing to worry about. I find their assertions, much like their defense of the current state of the program, laughable.