(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

(04-14-2017 02:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

I agree it depends on context. I have said MUCH worse to motivate my students. They have said MUCH worse back to me.

(04-14-2017 01:55 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 01:54 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 01:50 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:16 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 11:53 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  I didn't take Penny to go that way.

I realize you're just kidding, but it's not cool.

Get over it.

Nothing to get over. You seem irked.

You seem triggered. Go find a sense of humor somewhere.

Yep you're irked. Go get yourself unirked

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

Frustration and anger in the context of a heated practice seems totally different than attaching middle fingers to a post or saying F Tubby on a video. Joey looks like a hothead at worst, KJ looks like a spoiled brat who fights his supposed battles on facebook and snapchat.

The Dorsey comparison is silly. Cal embraced that culture. He challenged their manhood, and was open about doing so. I just can't see Penny embracing that same environment.

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I doubt they requested sodomy.

(04-14-2017 03:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I doubt they requested sodomy.

Fair point though they might have accused Cal of sleeping with his own mother.

(04-14-2017 02:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

So a 'real man' wants to fist fight if someone challenges their decision making, work effort, habits, etc?

(04-14-2017 04:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 02:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  ...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

So a 'real man' wants to fist fight if someone challenges their decision making, work effort, habits, etc?

Right way and wrong way to do anything...

If you don't use your blinker and change lanes how would you feel if I cursed you and everyone in your car.

You call someone a P*ssy as everyone knows he did to Earl Barron, that would be considered the wrong way just like me cursing you out for not using your blinker.

(04-14-2017 04:06 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 03:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I doubt they requested sodomy.

Fair point though they might have accused Cal of sleeping with his own mother.

A favored and timeless response.

(04-14-2017 04:45 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 04:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 02:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

So a 'real man' wants to fist fight if someone challenges their decision making, work effort, habits, etc?

Right way and wrong way to do anything...

If you don't use your blinker and change lanes how would you feel if I cursed you and everyone in your car.

You call someone a P*ssy as everyone knows he did to Earl Barron, that would be considered the wrong way just like me cursing you out for not using your blinker.

I'm confident Cal talked to Earl and told him what he was going to do and why. Like he did to all his players. The only time it probably bothered Earl is when he knew Cal was right.

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

Me AND A BUDDY WENT TO SHAKE HIS HAND ON THE STREET BEFORE A GAME ONE NIGHT AND HE ACTED LIKE HE DIDNT WANT TO BUT HIS MAMA GOT ON HIS ASS AND TOLD HIM THAT THESE NICE MEN JUST WANTED TO SHAKE HIS HAND AND THAT WE HAD COME TO THE GAME TO CHEER FOR HIM . I LOST ALL RESPECT FOR HIM AT THAT POINT .

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

WHO ?

(04-14-2017 04:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 02:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:14 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  ...and then Dorsey was kicked off the team, right?

I mean..that is inexcusable, and is literally an assault.

Different coaches have different ways of doing things

Tarik Black had one bad practice, never started another game and was raked over the coals by most of this message board and the media and never said a bad word about anyone. He "quit on his teammates" according to some smart people on here

Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

So a 'real man' wants to fist fight if someone challenges their decision making, work effort, habits, etc?

I don't like to use "real man" type labels, so without labels, I prefer someone who confronts someone they disagree with over someone who posts flipping the bird and snapchats "F Tubby" on social media.

(04-14-2017 12:04 PM)FatCat Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:02 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  I think both Burks and Dorsey threatened to kick Cal's ass more than once. Do we hate them, too?

I know Dorsey did. Tony Barbee stepped in front of him and told Dorsey he'd have to go through him first.

Yeah but Cal talked to his players like straight *******. In the heat of the moment I can understand that.

(04-14-2017 12:18 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:16 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 11:53 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 11:50 AM)cutiepie Wrote:  Yup. I heard that before, too. Well known on the AAU circuit.

I didn't take Penny to go that way.

I realize you're just kidding, but it's not cool.

This whole thread isn't cool. Just posting self-admitted internet rumor about a college kid.

aren't internet rumors what message boards are made for?

the Joey thing is a little different as that was in the heat of a game...emotions run high...it's a 'leave it all on the court' kinda thing.

KJ is building a body of evidence that his character and discipline are severely lacking...it's not some one-off kinda thing.

just my opinion.

(04-14-2017 01:50 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:16 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 11:53 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 11:50 AM)cutiepie Wrote:  Yup. I heard that before, too. Well known on the AAU circuit.

I didn't take Penny to go that way.

I realize you're just kidding, but it's not cool.

Get over it.

I see the same ole folks are still talkin' the same ole BS around here...some things never change, I guess.

(04-14-2017 04:56 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 04:45 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 04:30 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 02:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 12:17 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, I know.

It's just funny that a 17 year old (allegedly) tells his HS coach to s his d and it is a hanging offense.

Dorsey (25 years old and built like a brick sh!thouse) makes verbal threats and physical advances to his coach and people "love the intensity and competitive spirit."

But what did Cal say to him...

See Cal would challenge his players to the point of insulting them...So yeah some of them would cause a MAN to react that way. That is why Cal isn't in the NBA anymore.

Now if KJ is saying that without provocation then it is a different story now isn't it.

So a 'real man' wants to fist fight if someone challenges their decision making, work effort, habits, etc?

Right way and wrong way to do anything...

If you don't use your blinker and change lanes how would you feel if I cursed you and everyone in your car.

You call someone a P*ssy as everyone knows he did to Earl Barron, that would be considered the wrong way just like me cursing you out for not using your blinker.

I'm confident Cal talked to Earl and told him what he was going to do and why. Like he did to all his players. The only time it probably bothered Earl is when he knew Cal was right.

Cal curses at his players insults his players and demeans his players at times to try to motivate them...At times that pisses people off and no I don't think Earl felt like he was a p*ssy and didn't appreciate it being said on national TV.

Probably insulted Dorsey and other players during his time there and it blew up...But if that is how you coach you have to understand at times that will be the reaction and be able to deal with it and not punish players for a natural reaction to an insult.

Now if you are a mild mannered coach and a player comes at you like that it is an entirely different story.