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(01-12-2018 07:09 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  I agree, they did a pretty decent job signing who they did under those circumstances. The problem is being in that situation in the first place. If Tubby could have kept the Lawson’s and Markel, we are probably 1or2 in the conference this year. Obviously, they didn’t fit in his system for whatever reason, so here we are...

Josh couldn’t keep players and Tubby follows that up doing the same thing. Tough pill to swallow. Tubby can coach though...might be the best x and o’s coach we’ve ever had (or Bartow). Hopefully his change in the culture will lead to some continuity and a different road to success. I’m sure I’m one of the few but I think the 7’3 guy and a Tyler Harris added to this group would make for a pretty interesting team next year.

Fire away...

They had at least five schollies open for 2017 regardless of the mass exodus, and they had been on the four Davenport, Thornton, Brewton, and Darrington for awhile (I assume they were going to take one of each position had the mass exodus not taken place) so it's not like they should get some super pat on the back for brining in a bunch of JUCO's who, outside of Davenport, haven't exceeded the 50% JUCO rule.

I just get the bigger kick out of people who "like" whoever Memphis is targeting without having any eye for competence.

The idea the staff even wasted $$ and time going after this stiff is embarrassing and even more embarrassing is the typical fanbase reaction to MY assessment that the guy was a stiff.

Oh, by the way his stat line vs. WSU last night:

2 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 1 turnover, 3 fouls.

For the season (for lowly ECU, mind you):
1.2 ppg 2.6 rpg
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RE: 7 footer Usman Haruna
(01-12-2018 08:26 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 07:09 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  I agree, they did a pretty decent job signing who they did under those circumstances. The problem is being in that situation in the first place. If Tubby could have kept the Lawson’s and Markel, we are probably 1or2 in the conference this year. Obviously, they didn’t fit in his system for whatever reason, so here we are...

Josh couldn’t keep players and Tubby follows that up doing the same thing. Tough pill to swallow. Tubby can coach though...might be the best x and o’s coach we’ve ever had (or Bartow). Hopefully his change in the culture will lead to some continuity and a different road to success. I’m sure I’m one of the few but I think the 7’3 guy and a Tyler Harris added to this group would make for a pretty interesting team next year.

Fire away...

They had at least five schollies open for 2017 regardless of the mass exodus, and they had been on the four Davenport, Thornton, Brewton, and Darrington for awhile (I assume they were going to take one of each position had the mass exodus not taken place) so it's not like they should get some super pat on the back for brining in a bunch of JUCO's who, outside of Davenport, haven't exceeded the 50% JUCO rule.

I just get the bigger kick out of people who "like" whoever Memphis is targeting without having any eye for competence.

The idea the staff even wasted $$ and time going after this stiff is embarrassing and even more embarrassing is the typical fanbase reaction to MY assessment that the guy was a stiff.

Oh, by the way his stat line vs. WSU last night:

2 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 1 turnover, 3 fouls.

For the season (for lowly ECU, mind you):
1.2 ppg 2.6 rpg

There are plenty of busts out there. At the time they were recruiting him, we had Azab. So, should he explore other options or just go with Azab? Please tell me about all of the high level big men that were available at this time? The few that are left have a lot of offers. Check out our Juco’s offers, most had several good ones. Teams filling holes, usually not rebuilding an entire team.

He wasn’t an option until Tubby lost the team. Got very lucky he signed Parks after he decommitted from New Mexico.
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So what are the thoughts if Tigers get Tyler Harris? .....Conner should be a bit of a rim protector at 7'3 and is a threat to hit the jumper outside...seems he would be much more productive than a Tacko Fall? We have a pretty good nucleus due to come back...
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(01-12-2018 03:46 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 03:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 12:12 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 11:16 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 11:05 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Well that’s what happens when your team implodes in April. Kind of hard to plan for that... At least we knew bad weather was on the way...

You keep telling yourself that. This is almost a $4 million staff and they should be able to respond and react like a $4 million staff.

I’m not saying he didn’t play a part in the implosion, and that’s on Tubby. I’m simply saying there aren’t a lot of high level players left that late in the year. Don’t know how that is debatable.

You're right, it's not debatable, you're just wrong.

Just look at this summer. Nick King was available and Deonte Hawkins was hand delivered to Memphis. Both 1 year rentals so they wouldn't impact the 2018 class.

Hawkins was averaging 12 and 9 and King is going for 23 and 8.

Tremont Waters (the dude from LSU who's averaging 17/6/4) was signed by LSU on June 4th.

I think he did pretty good under the circumstances. Parks, Thornton, Brewton, Davenport. Most had a lot of decent offers. There were a few top players left, just a very few.

The ones left that late have tons of offers. You seem to think they’ll just sign with us because we were good 10 years ago. Obviously, they aren’t impressed.

The calling card of the few left defending Tubby. We have been very good at times in the last 10 years and don't forget, when you make the ridiculous claim about us not being good, we were still much better with Pastner than Tubby was with Minnesota and Texas Tech.

Over a 16 year period we proved as a program that we could sign very good players from all over the place. Now all of a sudden players don't want to sign with us because we were only good 10 years ago.

What a load of garbage.
01-13-2018 01:53 AM
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(01-12-2018 08:51 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 08:26 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 07:09 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  I agree, they did a pretty decent job signing who they did under those circumstances. The problem is being in that situation in the first place. If Tubby could have kept the Lawson’s and Markel, we are probably 1or2 in the conference this year. Obviously, they didn’t fit in his system for whatever reason, so here we are...

Josh couldn’t keep players and Tubby follows that up doing the same thing. Tough pill to swallow. Tubby can coach though...might be the best x and o’s coach we’ve ever had (or Bartow). Hopefully his change in the culture will lead to some continuity and a different road to success. I’m sure I’m one of the few but I think the 7’3 guy and a Tyler Harris added to this group would make for a pretty interesting team next year.

Fire away...

They had at least five schollies open for 2017 regardless of the mass exodus, and they had been on the four Davenport, Thornton, Brewton, and Darrington for awhile (I assume they were going to take one of each position had the mass exodus not taken place) so it's not like they should get some super pat on the back for brining in a bunch of JUCO's who, outside of Davenport, haven't exceeded the 50% JUCO rule.

I just get the bigger kick out of people who "like" whoever Memphis is targeting without having any eye for competence.

The idea the staff even wasted $$ and time going after this stiff is embarrassing and even more embarrassing is the typical fanbase reaction to MY assessment that the guy was a stiff.

Oh, by the way his stat line vs. WSU last night:

2 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 1 turnover, 3 fouls.

For the season (for lowly ECU, mind you):
1.2 ppg 2.6 rpg

There are plenty of busts out there. At the time they were recruiting him, we had Azab. So, should he explore other options or just go with Azab? Please tell me about all of the high level big men that were available at this time? The few that are left have a lot of offers. Check out our Juco’s offers, most had several good ones. Teams filling holes, usually not rebuilding an entire team.

He wasn’t an option until Tubby lost the team. Got very lucky he signed Parks after he decommitted from New Mexico.

Tubby still had to sign 4 so the quality of the first 4 should have been amazing regardless and aside from Dedric, and a bit from Markel and KJ, no recruit would have been worried about not getting playing time out of the gate.

Tubby went on vacation and then had to sign Rykhoek and Azab, which limits options on other players, but still, there was plenty of room and plenty of time to sign a much better class.

I wonder what fairy tale excuse you will come up with for this year's class.
01-13-2018 02:04 AM
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RE: 7 footer Usman Haruna
(01-13-2018 02:04 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 08:51 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 08:26 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 07:09 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  I agree, they did a pretty decent job signing who they did under those circumstances. The problem is being in that situation in the first place. If Tubby could have kept the Lawson’s and Markel, we are probably 1or2 in the conference this year. Obviously, they didn’t fit in his system for whatever reason, so here we are...

Josh couldn’t keep players and Tubby follows that up doing the same thing. Tough pill to swallow. Tubby can coach though...might be the best x and o’s coach we’ve ever had (or Bartow). Hopefully his change in the culture will lead to some continuity and a different road to success. I’m sure I’m one of the few but I think the 7’3 guy and a Tyler Harris added to this group would make for a pretty interesting team next year.

Fire away...

They had at least five schollies open for 2017 regardless of the mass exodus, and they had been on the four Davenport, Thornton, Brewton, and Darrington for awhile (I assume they were going to take one of each position had the mass exodus not taken place) so it's not like they should get some super pat on the back for brining in a bunch of JUCO's who, outside of Davenport, haven't exceeded the 50% JUCO rule.

I just get the bigger kick out of people who "like" whoever Memphis is targeting without having any eye for competence.

The idea the staff even wasted $$ and time going after this stiff is embarrassing and even more embarrassing is the typical fanbase reaction to MY assessment that the guy was a stiff.

Oh, by the way his stat line vs. WSU last night:

2 minutes, 0 points, 0 rebounds, 1 turnover, 3 fouls.

For the season (for lowly ECU, mind you):
1.2 ppg 2.6 rpg

There are plenty of busts out there. At the time they were recruiting him, we had Azab. So, should he explore other options or just go with Azab? Please tell me about all of the high level big men that were available at this time? The few that are left have a lot of offers. Check out our Juco’s offers, most had several good ones. Teams filling holes, usually not rebuilding an entire team.

He wasn’t an option until Tubby lost the team. Got very lucky he signed Parks after he decommitted from New Mexico.

Tubby still had to sign 4 so the quality of the first 4 should have been amazing regardless and aside from Dedric, and a bit from Markel and KJ, no recruit would have been worried about not getting playing time out of the gate.

Tubby went on vacation and then had to sign Rykhoek and Azab, which limits options on other players, but still, there was plenty of room and plenty of time to sign a much better class.

I wonder what fairy tale excuse you will come up with for this year's class.

Hammer.. meet nail.
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(01-12-2018 10:58 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  So what are the thoughts if Tigers get Tyler Harris? .....Conner should be a bit of a rim protector at 7'3 and is a threat to hit the jumper outside...seems he would be much more productive than a Tacko Fall? We have a pretty good nucleus due to come back...

More productive than Fall?

CV averages 8 and 7 in HIGH SCHOOL.

Rim protector? He averages 1.5 blocks per game, 2nd on the team and barely ahead of the 3rd place guy w/ 1.4 bpg.

He's 7'4 and has played 21 games and has only gone to the FT line 12 times.

He doesn't start and his main role on his high school team (where he almost always has an insane height advantage) is to park it on the three point line. He's second on his team in 3pt attempts.
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(01-12-2018 08:26 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  They had at least five schollies open for 2017 regardless of the mass exodus, and they had been on the four Davenport, Thornton, Brewton, and Darrington for awhile (I assume they were going to take one of each position had the mass exodus not taken place) so it's not like they should get some super pat on the back for brining in a bunch of JUCO's who, outside of Davenport, haven't exceeded the 50% JUCO rule.

Well, Davenport and Parks
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We need a Dude who can bust a TREY
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(01-12-2018 10:58 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  So what are the thoughts if Tigers get Tyler Harris? .....Conner should be a bit of a rim protector at 7'3 and is a threat to hit the jumper outside...seems he would be much more productive than a Tacko Fall? We have a pretty good nucleus due to come back...

Joey Dorsey was a rim protector; Vanover would be a rim ornament!
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(01-12-2018 10:58 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  So what are the thoughts if Tigers get Tyler Harris? .....Conner should be a bit of a rim protector at 7'3 and is a threat to hit the jumper outside...seems he would be much more productive than a Tacko Fall? We have a pretty good nucleus due to come back...

The issue with Conner is that he will not be able to guard HIS man...

Too thin and to weak...He will be a taller Chad who can shoot. Still wont be able to guard the post and likely will not be a good rebounder.
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(01-21-2018 04:50 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 10:58 PM)ItsDude Wrote:  So what are the thoughts if Tigers get Tyler Harris? .....Conner should be a bit of a rim protector at 7'3 and is a threat to hit the jumper outside...seems he would be much more productive than a Tacko Fall? We have a pretty good nucleus due to come back...

The issue with Conner is that he will not be able to guard HIS man...

Too thin and to weak...He will be a taller Chad who can shoot. Still wont be able to guard the post and likely will not be a good rebounder.

Conner V "might" contribute his Jr/Sr year after a lot of weight training. He's a project at best.

If we keep winning more then we lose the rest of the way we should be able to sign some good players.

Lots of good players still on the board.

This spring class will be the defining moment of Tubby's tenure. We have good pieces in place on the roster now. We just need to add more talent and we can compete at the top of our league.
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The Dude has got to be able to bust it in the paint
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(01-23-2018 08:33 PM)memphisike Wrote:  The Dude has got to be able to bust it in the paint

I wouldn't expect much from him for the first few years....skinny as a rail.
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Zero points, zero rebounds, and one foul in 5 minutes versus Memphis.
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(02-05-2018 10:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Zero points, zero rebounds, and one foul in 5 minutes versus Memphis.

He was tall. Tall and awful.
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(02-06-2018 09:11 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 10:27 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Zero points, zero rebounds, and one foul in 5 minutes versus Memphis.

He was tall. Tall and awful.

He made Azab look like Alaa Abdelnaby.
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