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RE: IS IT FAIR?
(04-19-2017 01:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:42 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  They can still be hired for one of the nine (soon ten) on-field positions, just not for quality control, director of football operations, recruiting coordinator.

I still think it's stupid. For every example of someone abusing the practice for a recruiting advantage (looking at you Harbaugh) there's five where the off-the-field position is an actual entry level position for a high school coach into college coaching. Clemson's new Safeties coach Mickey Conn spent a year as a defensive analyst, Georgia's RB and former Georgia Southern interim HC Dell McGee started as an analyst at Auburn, Olten Downs, current Safeties coach at Georgia Southern started as a quality control coach at UGA.

All this is doing is limiting the opportunities for coaches to advance in their careers. Stupid rule.

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(04-19-2017 01:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:42 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  They can still be hired for one of the nine (soon ten) on-field positions, just not for quality control, director of football operations, recruiting coordinator.

I still think it's stupid. For every example of someone abusing the practice for a recruiting advantage (looking at you Harbaugh) there's five where the off-the-field position is an actual entry level position for a high school coach into college coaching. Clemson's new Safeties coach Mickey Conn spent a year as a defensive analyst, Georgia's RB and former Georgia Southern interim HC Dell McGee started as an analyst at Auburn, Olten Downs, current Safeties coach at Georgia Southern started as a quality control coach at UGA.

All this is doing is limiting the opportunities for coaches to advance in their careers. Stupid rule.

Our defensive line coach started in a quality control position at Arkansas after being a high school coach. Rule might have kept him out because UArk signs kids from his high school regularly. Then again it might not have. When Blake Anderson interviewed for the AState job after the 2012 season he listed the guy as someone he wanted for an on-field coach. Anderson didn't get the gig and the guy took a quality control spot. Year later, Anderson gets hired and hires him so it might have prevented him from starting his college career by a year but not stopped him from moving up.
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RE: IS IT FAIR?
Is it fair? No. Do I remember the question? No. My default on fairness questions will always be a solid "no"
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Dabo's view on the rule change, specifically the part of the rule that prohibits high school coaches from working and speaking at college camps.

Rule remarks start at 1:08


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(04-19-2017 01:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(04-16-2017 10:42 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  They can still be hired for one of the nine (soon ten) on-field positions, just not for quality control, director of football operations, recruiting coordinator.

I still think it's stupid. For every example of someone abusing the practice for a recruiting advantage (looking at you Harbaugh) there's five where the off-the-field position is an actual entry level position for a high school coach into college coaching. Clemson's new Safeties coach Mickey Conn spent a year as a defensive analyst, Georgia's RB and former Georgia Southern interim HC Dell McGee started as an analyst at Auburn, Olten Downs, current Safeties coach at Georgia Southern started as a quality control coach at UGA.

All this is doing is limiting the opportunities for coaches to advance in their careers. Stupid rule.

None of those coaches would have been limited by the new rule unless the college that hired them had recruited players from the high school team they coached. College teams remain free to hire any high school coach for any job as long as they didn't recently recruit a player from that high school.

Read what Gus Malzahn said in that USA Today article:

Quote:Malzahn, who was a high school coach before moving into college coaching in 2006 as an assistant at Arkansas, has hired nine high school coaches, including Drinkwitz.

“Not one time did I recruit any of their players,” he said. “I’m trying to put good high school coaches and people into college football. We’re not hiring them to get players here. If that rule passes, it’s gonna hurt. Every one of those (nine coaches), I wouldn’t have been able to hire.”

Hey, Gus, read the rule. It wouldn't have stopped you from hiring any of those high school coaches because you didn't recruit any of their players.
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