http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-base.html

Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn and Dina Powell are Democrats and establishment.

Quote:'It would be a terrible signal if Trump were to either force Bannon out or let him go because he is the face of the national populism that inspired a lot of voters to vote for Trump"

Are relentless attacks by the democrat's MSM clouding Trumps political instincts. If Trump doesn't wake up he's finished.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-base.html

bannon had no business being in Washington in the first place.

Your base is what helps you get elected, but once you are elected, you are president of all the people. At the end of the day my wish for Donald Trump is that he has a successful presidency.

(04-13-2017 04:29 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  bannon had no business being in Washington in the first place.

This. Reasonable people tried to warn y'all that you can't trust Trump. I'm not making a value judgment on whether he's doing good or bad, but the idea that he was ever a principled person who you could count on to follow through with everything he espoused was laughable.

The one person that Trump hired that I wished he wouldn't have is Jeff Sessions. He's view of Marijuana and the war on drugs is just away to feel up corporate prisons.

(04-13-2017 05:04 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 04:29 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  bannon had no business being in Washington in the first place.

This. Reasonable people tried to warn y'all that you can't trust Trump. I'm not making a value judgment on whether he's doing good or bad, but the idea that he was ever a principled person who you could count on to follow through with everything he espoused was laughable.

That's odd. The folks on this forum were saying he was following through with everything he espoused.

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(04-13-2017 05:17 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The one person that Trump hired that I wished he wouldn't have is Jeff Sessions. He's view of Marijuana and the war on drugs is just away to feel up corporate prisons.

You realize that 99% of people locked up on drug dealing possession charges are,
State of Ohio, Texas, Florida, New York vs. so and so. Has nothing to do with views that Sessions or Trump have. FBI DEA generally deal with the big players.

(04-13-2017 04:40 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  Your base is what helps you get elected, but once you are elected, you are president of all the people. At the end of the day my wish for Donald Trump is that he has a successful presidency.

Yep, there is a HUGE difference between campaigning and actually governing.

(04-13-2017 05:56 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:04 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 04:29 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  bannon had no business being in Washington in the first place.

This. Reasonable people tried to warn y'all that you can't trust Trump. I'm not making a value judgment on whether he's doing good or bad, but the idea that he was ever a principled person who you could count on to follow through with everything he espoused was laughable.

That's odd. The folks on this forum were saying he was following through with everything he espoused.

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I don't think that anybody here has said he's following through with EVERYTHING. Please source this claim. A lot of us have been happy with a majority of things he has done so far.

A lot of presidents are simply unable to follow through on some of their promises. There are a lot of reasons for that. Could be congress, could be something they learned AFTER they became president, situation changes, etc, etc. That's just common sense, nothing is static. Has any president had more opposition up to this point?

We voted for Job, Jobs, Jobs. We voted for enterprise zones in areas of high unemployment. We voted for secure boarders to keep out drug and human trafficking and ISIS. We voted to fix the illegal immigrant problem, which creates a permanent underclass working for sub par wages costing Americans good jobs. We voted for trade agreements that don't encourage US companies to offshore our work and bring the product back to sell to a shrinking American middle class. We voted for law and order. We voted for a Justices department that would hold those in Washington to the same standards as us. We voted against the Clinton Global Foundation selling US policy to the highest bidder while enriching the politician, their family and friends. We voted for a fix of our failing public school system.

Not Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, Dina Powell, and Goldman Sachs? C'mon man!

(04-13-2017 07:17 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:56 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:04 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 04:29 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  bannon had no business being in Washington in the first place.

This. Reasonable people tried to warn y'all that you can't trust Trump. I'm not making a value judgment on whether he's doing good or bad, but the idea that he was ever a principled person who you could count on to follow through with everything he espoused was laughable.

That's odd. The folks on this forum were saying he was following through with everything he espoused.

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I don't think that anybody here has said he's following through with EVERYTHING. Please source this claim. A lot of us have been happy with a majority of things he has done so far.

A lot of presidents are simply unable to follow through on some of their promises. There are a lot of reasons for that. Could be congress, could be something they learned AFTER they became president, situation changes, etc, etc. That's just common sense, nothing is static. Has any president had more opposition up to this point?

Posted by UofMStateU Post #109 of this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-815107-page-11.html

Because so far he is doing what he said he was going to do, and hasnt f*cked up a giant section of the world. In short, after 3 months of Trump, Trump has proved himself to be capable and competant. After a few years of Obama, everyone knew he was getting outplayed, screwing things up, and blaming others. Thats why one got a wide range of bipartisan support, and the other got rebuffed in a bipartisn fashion.

When does the winning start?

(04-13-2017 07:35 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  When does the winning start?

Not with an establishment democrat or republican out there now?

(04-13-2017 07:28 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  We voted for Job, Jobs, Jobs. We voted for enterprise zones in areas of high unemployment. We voted for secure boarders to keep out drug and human trafficking, and ISIS. We voted to fix the illegal immigrant problem, which creates a permanent underclass working for sub par wages costing Americans good jobs. We voted for trade agreements that don't encourage US companies to offshore our work and bring the product back to sell to a shrinking American middle class. We voted for law and order. We voted for a Justices department that would hold those in Washington to the same standards as us. We voted against the the Clinton Global Foundation selling US policy to the highest bidder while enriching politicians and their family and friends. We voted for a fix of our failing public school system.

Not Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, Dina Powell, and Goldman Sachs? C'mon man!

Dude we aren't even 100 days in yet. Are you saying he's done nothing to improve any of that stuff? Just look at some of the crap he's rolled back from Obama already. He's not be perfect but damn.

(04-13-2017 07:28 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  We voted for Job, Jobs, Jobs. We voted for enterprise zones in areas of high unemployment. We voted for secure boarders to keep out drug and human trafficking and ISIS. We voted to fix the illegal immigrant problem, which creates a permanent underclass working for sub par wages costing Americans good jobs. We voted for trade agreements that don't encourage US companies to offshore our work and bring the product back to sell to a shrinking American middle class. We voted for law and order. We voted for a Justices department that would hold those in Washington to the same standards as us. We voted against the Clinton Global Foundation selling US policy to the highest bidder while enriching the politician, their family and friends. We voted for a fix of our failing public school system.

Not Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, Dina Powell, and Goldman Sachs? C'mon man!

And Trump is following through on everything in that first paragraph. Get a grip.

(04-13-2017 07:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 07:28 AM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  We voted for Job, Jobs, Jobs. We voted for enterprise zones in areas of high unemployment. We voted for secure boarders to keep out drug and human trafficking, and ISIS. We voted to fix the illegal immigrant problem, which creates a permanent underclass working for sub par wages costing Americans good jobs. We voted for trade agreements that don't encourage US companies to offshore our work and bring the product back to sell to a shrinking American middle class. We voted for law and order. We voted for a Justices department that would hold those in Washington to the same standards as us. We voted against the the Clinton Global Foundation selling US policy to the highest bidder while enriching politicians and their family and friends. We voted for a fix of our failing public school system.

Not Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, Dina Powell, and Goldman Sachs? C'mon man!

Dude we aren't even 100 days in yet. Are you saying he's done nothing to improve any of that stuff? Just look at some of the crap he's rolled back from Obama already. He's not be perfect but damn.

If he trades Bannon's advice for Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, Dina Powell and Goldman Sachs he's in trouble. I still don't believe he will. I'm still hopeful. MSM is in bed with the establishment / corrupt system and they have declared WW III on him to maintain status quo. We'll see how tough he is?

Bannon isn't going anywhere....

(04-13-2017 07:30 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 07:17 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:56 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:04 AM)Rob Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 04:29 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  bannon had no business being in Washington in the first place.

This. Reasonable people tried to warn y'all that you can't trust Trump. I'm not making a value judgment on whether he's doing good or bad, but the idea that he was ever a principled person who you could count on to follow through with everything he espoused was laughable.

That's odd. The folks on this forum were saying he was following through with everything he espoused.

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I don't think that anybody here has said he's following through with EVERYTHING. Please source this claim. A lot of us have been happy with a majority of things he has done so far.

A lot of presidents are simply unable to follow through on some of their promises. There are a lot of reasons for that. Could be congress, could be something they learned AFTER they became president, situation changes, etc, etc. That's just common sense, nothing is static. Has any president had more opposition up to this point?

Posted by UofMStateU Post #109 of this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-815107-page-11.html

Because so far he is doing what he said he was going to do, and hasnt f*cked up a giant section of the world. In short, after 3 months of Trump, Trump has proved himself to be capable and competant. After a few years of Obama, everyone knew he was getting outplayed, screwing things up, and blaming others. Thats why one got a wide range of bipartisan support, and the other got rebuffed in a bipartisn fashion.

Try again.

(04-13-2017 07:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 07:30 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 07:17 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:56 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 05:04 AM)Rob Wrote:  This. Reasonable people tried to warn y'all that you can't trust Trump. I'm not making a value judgment on whether he's doing good or bad, but the idea that he was ever a principled person who you could count on to follow through with everything he espoused was laughable.

That's odd. The folks on this forum were saying he was following through with everything he espoused.

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

I don't think that anybody here has said he's following through with EVERYTHING. Please source this claim. A lot of us have been happy with a majority of things he has done so far.

A lot of presidents are simply unable to follow through on some of their promises. There are a lot of reasons for that. Could be congress, could be something they learned AFTER they became president, situation changes, etc, etc. That's just common sense, nothing is static. Has any president had more opposition up to this point?

Posted by UofMStateU Post #109 of this thread:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-815107-page-11.html

Because so far he is doing what he said he was going to do, and hasnt f*cked up a giant section of the world. In short, after 3 months of Trump, Trump has proved himself to be capable and competant. After a few years of Obama, everyone knew he was getting outplayed, screwing things up, and blaming others. Thats why one got a wide range of bipartisan support, and the other got rebuffed in a bipartisn fashion.

Try again.

No need to.

Trumps base is Trump.

As bad as Bannon is, Jared is worse. Neither need to be anywhere near DC. Nor Ivanka. Well, I suppose Jared and Ivanka could hold jobs there under a Democrat administration.