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How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
NY makes the condition that the free public tuition will be initially considered loans that must be paid back. If they stay in the NY state for a job, the loan would be waived for as many years as the tuition was paid

Would think some families will move to NY to qualify their kids. This could make Buffalo, Binghampton. Stony Brook and Albany even more selective and hurt private NY schools. But a lot of grads could choose to work at Starbucks until the loan is waived after 4 or 5 years. NY could see a lot of new debt.
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RE: How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
A run on NYC so people can find and retain work for the length of the loan period.

No new housing infrastructure at the main four SUNY schools to keep their campuses selective, but others in the system will line right up to take the load, be it residential or commuter.

Tiny private NY schools are screwed. The bigger ones not so much. I'd wager the tiny ones have already had to diversify their enrollment profiles decades ago, and dipped into their coffers to offer very generous aid packages. This doesn't help. SUNY carries a favorable reputation, even though some schools are better than others. Free SUNY will kill some of the little guys.
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This could be great for the SUNYs in the short run.

But in the long run this could hurt the SUNYs because taxes will have to be raised to fund this program, and New York is already seeing people flee from the high cost of living. And the only people who will stay because of this program are the low-productivity workers who won't benefit from moving out of state.
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Rationing is the end game of every government subsidized "universal" program

Like European universities, they'll end up have to drastically reduce seats and increase admission scores. The result is that most seats will end up going to the children of the upper middle class and or the politically connected.

This will then cause outrage in such a blue state but they will fail to see the actual cause of this and will double down and demand that the schools accept anyone who applies thus creating an overwhelmed system that can't fund itself which collapses.

Economics always wins over pipe dreams of having your cake and eating it too
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This is a massive win for talented young New Yorkers who are interested in ag, labor, enviro science, and vet.
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RE: How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
This is not a college sports topic. It's politics.


It has nothing to do with student-athletes, who get scholarships anyway.
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RE: How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
(04-12-2017 10:38 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  This is not a college sports topic. It's politics.


It has nothing to do with student-athletes, who get scholarships anyway.

There was a thread on Mizzou's enrollment. Didn't see a post by you complaining. The NCAA is at its essence politics and political.

Students will still have to pay fees, books, room and board. Fees are important to most athletic departments and the SUNY's will likely get more.
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RE: How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
If Missouri had to close, or had to leave the SEC due to problems with its enrollment, that would obviously affect College Sports and Conference Realignment.


This topic has nothing to do with College Sports and Conference Realignment. None of the SUNY athletics teams will move conferences or be affected in any other way because of this.
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RE: How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
(04-12-2017 11:04 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  If Missouri had to close, or had to leave the SEC due to problems with its enrollment, that would obviously affect College Sports and Conference Realignment.


This topic has nothing to do with College Sports and Conference Realignment. None of the SUNY athletics teams will move conferences or be affected in any other way because of this.

So the SUNY's gaining enrollment and athletic dollars doesn't pertain to possible conference changes or athletic offerings?
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RE: How will NY's offer of free tuition to state resident affect the SUNY's?
Enrollment has nothing to do with anything, and what are you talking about athletic dollars??
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