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Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
I found these on Wikipedia, they are great as a resource.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...ubdivision
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
When you go back to the 1927 map, all the schools played within a regional cluster.

Colorado for instance shared a conference with Denver and Colorado College. Then egos became involved and they joined the Big 8.

In the 1956 map it shows the start of the metro school move up with Cincinnati and Louisville on the map as independents.

The period from 1975-1985 which isn't represented on the map gives berth to the modern P5/G5 split with schools forced into lower divisions and the NCAA loses control on college football TV rights. By 1990 the rise of the power conference begins.

The next logical move I believe would be the creation of more independents (Hawaii, UNLV, Boise, Memphis, UConn) with the G5's becoming regional 10 team football conferences while the power conferences push on to 16.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
1927, there was no Mountain Conference for Colorado. They were part of the RMAC conference at the time.

Since they only took by years, there are so many schools that were D1 at one point in time. Cal. State-L.A. is one of them. University of San Francisco was another.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
(04-11-2017 08:14 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  When you go back to the 1927 map, all the schools played within a regional cluster.

Colorado for instance shared a conference with Denver and Colorado College. Then egos became involved and they joined the Big 8.

In the 1956 map it shows the start of the metro school move up with Cincinnati and Louisville on the map as independents.

The period from 1975-1985 which isn't represented on the map gives berth to the modern P5/G5 split with schools forced into lower divisions and the NCAA loses control on college football TV rights. By 1990 the rise of the power conference begins.

The next logical move I believe would be the creation of more independents (Hawaii, UNLV, Boise, Memphis, UConn) with the G5's becoming regional 10 team football conferences while the power conferences push on to 16.

Except ND, who "barnstormed" all over the East Coast and took the train to Los Angeles every other year, beginning in 1926, to play at Southern Cal.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
(04-12-2017 07:48 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 08:14 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  When you go back to the 1927 map, all the schools played within a regional cluster.

Colorado for instance shared a conference with Denver and Colorado College. Then egos became involved and they joined the Big 8.

In the 1956 map it shows the start of the metro school move up with Cincinnati and Louisville on the map as independents.

The period from 1975-1985 which isn't represented on the map gives berth to the modern P5/G5 split with schools forced into lower divisions and the NCAA loses control on college football TV rights. By 1990 the rise of the power conference begins.

The next logical move I believe would be the creation of more independents (Hawaii, UNLV, Boise, Memphis, UConn) with the G5's becoming regional 10 team football conferences while the power conferences push on to 16.

Except ND, who "barnstormed" all over the East Coast and took the train to Los Angeles every other year, beginning in 1926, to play at Southern Cal.

Yes, but that was because the Big 10 schools refused to schedule Notre Dame. Notre Dame probably would have scheduled locally if they could have.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
The 1927 map is missing a lot of schools. Cincinnati, Case, Miami, Wabash, and Western Reserve to name a few that I know of that had powerful teams before that time.

It's hard to determine "major" vs "minor" back then because it was judged by if you played other "major" schools. But look at Cincinnati's 1922 schedule:

Pittsburgh (home)
Kentucky (away)
Georgetown (away)
Ohio Wesleyan (home)
Case (away)
West Virginia (home)
Dennison (home)
Wittenberg (away)
Miami (home)

So even on that map, we had four games against "major" programs, two of which were at home. And no one would have called Case a "minor" program - they were every bit as big as Carnegie Mellon at the time (which is listed as "major").

Let's put it this way - if the Rocky Mountain Athletic Conference or the Southern indies like Furman and Davidson were considered "major" in 1927, then the entire Ohio Athletic Conference was easily a "major" conference.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
UAB is missing from the transition map.
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(04-11-2017 08:14 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  When you go back to the 1927 map, all the schools played within a regional cluster.

Not really. This was before commercial air travel.

In the 1920s, a trip from Montana to Los Angeles was not considered "regional." It was a long, hard trip on a train. So were trips from Virginia to Florida or from Columbus to Minneapolis.

There's a lot of schools missing from that map that were considered "major" at the time, and it would look a lot less clustered if they were included.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
Moving from train travel to bus to airplane made some really big differences.

University of Arkansas went SWC rather than Big 8 because it was easier to take a train to the SWC cities and getting to Southern Conference and later SEC was a big challenge in the train era.

Arkansas State in the train era tended to play mostly in the mid-south and Midwest but around the time Interstate 30 was built began playing mostly in Texas and later Louisiana. While we still have that Ark-La-Tex core we've gone further east now.
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RE: Football Conference Maps (2016, 1991, 1956!, 1927!)
D3 MIAA formed in 1920.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_...Conference

Carleton
Gustav Adolphus
Hamline
Macalester
Saint John's Minn.
St. Olaf
And Saint Thomas were founding members.

Concordia-Moorhead
Augsburg
Saint Mary's of Minnesota were added later in the decade.
Some of these teams appeared in the polls for football alongside the Ivy League, Big 10 and others on a weekly basis.

Tri-Normal League which became the Evergreen Conference was founded in 1920.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_Conference

Central Washington 1920 founding member
Eastern Washington
Spokane University school closed in 1933
Western Washington
Are the founding members of the conference with Pacific Lutheran joining in 1938 and Saint Martin's joining in 1939.
Seattle U., Whitworth, Puget Sound and and British Columbia joined in the 1940s.

Kent State Normal founded their football program in 1920.
Oklahoma Sooners left the Southwest Conference to join the MVC
Phillips school closed joined the Southwest Conference
UCLA went from Independent to join the SCIAC which is now a D3 conference.

SCIAC
Cal Tech
Occidental
Pomona
Redlands
Whittier
Were the founding members.
UCLA (1920-1927), San Diego State (1926-1939), Laverne 1926-1938) and Cal. Santa Barbara 1931-1938 were other members at the time.

The Fort Worth Classic was a Bowl game where Centre defeated TCU.

Grinnell was a major college at the time who was also part of the Big 8 schools at one time and left.

Washington And Lee
Catholic
Saint John's-Maryland
Johns Hopkins

They were major at the time.

Transylvania, Chattanooga, Mississippi College (Gulf South Conference), Howard, VMI, The Citadel, Millsaps, Georgetown, Mercer, Wofford, part of what is now the Southern Conference with major schools from the SEC and ACC and members of other FBS conferences.

Richmond, Davidson, William & Mary was in the same conference with Catholic U. and them with Virginia Tech, Maryland and North Carolina.

CIAA Founded in 1912:
Founding members:
Hampton
Howard
Lincoln
Shaw
Virginia Union
Members joining:
Virginia State
Virginia U.-Lynchburg
Saint Paul's closed
North Carolina A&T
Johnson C. Smith
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Livingstone
Bluefield State
Saint Augustine's.

Inter-Normal Athletic Conference of Wisconsin (1913-1926) Now D3 WIAC

Founding members:
Wis.-LaCrosse
Wis.-Milwaukee
Oshkosh
Platteville
River Falls
Stevens Point
Superior
Whitewater
Joining later
Stout and Eau Claire


Kansas Collegiate Athletic Conference (KCAC) NAIA founded in 1869. Formally called Kansas Intercollegiate Athletic Association
Kansas State founder
Kansas founder
Washburn founder
Baker founder
In 1902 minus Kansas and Kansas State:KCAC was the new name.
Baker
Bethany
Bethel
College of Emporia closed
Wichita State was known as Fairmont State
Friends
Kansas Wesleyan
Emporia State
Fort Hays State
Pittsburg State
McPherson
Ottawa
St. Benedict's now Benedictine
St. Mary's dropped sports
Sterling
Southwestern
Washburn
St. John's (closed)
Kansas City (closed)


Louisiana Intercollegiate Athletic Association
La. Tech
La.-Lafayette
Centenary, La.
Not sure who else was in the conference at the time.

Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association (MIAA) D3
Albion
Hillsdale
Olivet
Michigan State (founder)
Eastern Michigan joined later while Mich. State was there.
Kalamazoo
Alma
Adrian
Hope

Nebraska Intercollegiate Conference now known as the defunct NAIA's Nebraska College Athletic Conference
York
Peru State
Hastings
Cotner closed
Nebraska Wesleyan
Doane
Midland Lutheran
Chadron State
Wayne State
Nebraska-Kearney

Ohio Athletic Conference (OAC) founded in 1902 D3
Founders:
Case Tech
Kenyon
Oberlin
Ohio State
Ohio Wesleyan
Western Reserve
join later:
Dennison
Heidelberg
Wooster
Wittenberg
Cincinnati
Ohio
Miami
Mount Union
Akron
Baldwin Wallace
Ohio Northern
Hiram
Otterbein
Xavier
Muskingum
Marietta
Capital
Ashland
John Carroll
Kent State
Toledo
Bowling Green

Oklahoma Intercollegiate Conference (1914–1928)
Central Oklahoma
Tulsa
Southwestern Oklahoma State
Oklahoma Baptist
Oklahoma City
Phillips
East Central Oklahoma
Southeastern Oklahoma State
Northeastern Oklahoma State
Langston

There were also a lot of Independents back in those days not involved in conferences.
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