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RE: UMD President says UNC should get the Death Penalty
(04-11-2017 12:55 PM)orangefan Wrote:  If the NCAA tried to impose the death penalty on any major program, that could be the "straw that breaks the camel's back" that causes the P5 conferences to walk away from the NCAA. These universities have way too much invested to live with the risk of such a penalty being imposed on them.

I wouldn't make that a blanket statement. A big chunk of recruiting enforcement comes from conference-mates turning the offender in.
Conference members bear the brunt of bad behavior by a conference-mate
04-11-2017 01:29 PM
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RE: UMD President says UNC should get the Death Penalty
(04-11-2017 12:55 PM)orangefan Wrote:  If the NCAA tried to impose the death penalty on any major program, that could be the "straw that breaks the camel's back" that causes the P5 conferences to walk away from the NCAA. These universities have way too much invested to live with the risk of such a penalty being imposed on them.

Exactly. The NCAA are powerless against any P5. Now had this been a MAC, SBC or CUSA school or an FCS school? Gone they would be.

The NCAA are a joke.
04-11-2017 01:39 PM
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I'd be curious to know what the ACC and UNC's peers think of this entire situation. Do they want this to go away, or would they find value in UNC being penalized for clearly taking advantage of academic standards?
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RE: UMD President says UNC should get the Death Penalty
(04-11-2017 01:29 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 12:55 PM)orangefan Wrote:  If the NCAA tried to impose the death penalty on any major program, that could be the "straw that breaks the camel's back" that causes the P5 conferences to walk away from the NCAA. These universities have way too much invested to live with the risk of such a penalty being imposed on them.

I wouldn't make that a blanket statement. A big chunk of recruiting enforcement comes from conference-mates turning the offender in.
Conference members bear the brunt of bad behavior by a conference-mate

They also share the pain of the death penalty. For instance, what would happen to the ACC's tv payments from ESPN if UNC were forced to drop basketball for two years or the Big Ten's if PSU were forced to drop football for two years?
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(04-11-2017 12:08 PM)Wedge Wrote:  There's a reason that university presidents (as opposed to sportswriters or fans on internet message boards) don't usually say things like this out loud: When you're a university president and you say this, you've just handed out an invitation for people to investigate your own athletic department.

Yet somehow I don't think that Maryland created a sham academic department within the university intended to disguise itself as a way for academically-ineligible student-athletes to be eligible for athletic competition.

There's tiptoeing the line of unethical behavior, and then there's launching one's self fully into it. This is clearly the latter.
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RE: UMD President says UNC should get the Death Penalty
(04-11-2017 01:56 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 01:29 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 12:55 PM)orangefan Wrote:  If the NCAA tried to impose the death penalty on any major program, that could be the "straw that breaks the camel's back" that causes the P5 conferences to walk away from the NCAA. These universities have way too much invested to live with the risk of such a penalty being imposed on them.

I wouldn't make that a blanket statement. A big chunk of recruiting enforcement comes from conference-mates turning the offender in.
Conference members bear the brunt of bad behavior by a conference-mate

They also share the pain of the death penalty. For instance, what would happen to the ACC's tv payments from ESPN if UNC were forced to drop basketball for two years or the Big Ten's if PSU were forced to drop football for two years?

I suspect the worst that happens is the TV partners pro rate the distribution because the networks understand the optics of punishing the other programs.
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Many ESPN's talking heads have been calling for the death penalty for Penn State, North Carolina, Miami Florida, Ohio State and the latest, Baylor. These schools have become the most hated teams that people wish they be gone forever. It is one of the reasons why several G5 schools gain a lot of fans and good players lately. Nobody wants to say that they are a proud fan of any of these schools.
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If what has been posted about these allegations turns out to be true. Then maybe UNC deserves to be hammered.
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I'd shut the University's doors and redistribute their assets among the other UNC System schools not named NC State. Then I'd hand the buildings over to the NC Health Department to turn into the new state insane asylum, mindful that we didn't let any of the students, faculty, or staff escape first. Then I'd round their living graduates up and throw them in too.
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(04-11-2017 01:56 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I'd be curious to know what the ACC and UNC's peers think of this entire situation. Do they want this to go away, or would they find value in UNC being penalized for clearly taking advantage of academic standards?

This fan thinks it's pathetic that the tail wags the dog at a glaringly large number of schools today.
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