Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

This move makes zero sense for their careers. Dedric will be 21 years old before he plays again and won't improve his stock much because of athletic limitations. KJ will be 23 or 24 by the time he's draft eligible - depending on whether or not he seeks a 6th year of eligibility. That all but eliminates him from having a NBA career. So 1 of 2 things happened:

1 - they care more about a giant two fingers up more than they did their long term interests

2 - they realized they may be European players and decided hey let's try and win a title first.

(04-10-2017 05:53 PM)BigBlueTiger901 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

This move makes zero sense for their careers. Dedric will be 21 years old before he plays again and won't improve his stock much because of athletic limitations. KJ will be 23 or 24 by the time he's draft eligible - depending on whether or not he seeks a 6th year of eligibility. That all but eliminates him from having a NBA career. So 1 of 2 things happened:

1 - they care more about a giant two fingers up more than they did their long term interests

2 - they realized they may be European players and decided hey let's try and win a title first.

If either makes an NBA roster I will eat my shorts.

Who cares if they make NBA?

I don't care if King Tut makes the NBA, just hope he can average 10 and 10 one day.

Transferring to Kansas is a "sexy" move more than anything. What difference it will make in the long term of their careers remains to be seen, but I'd be shocked if anything major comes of it. I don't wish them any ill will, and I'll be paying attention, but whatever happens happens.

They transferred because dad was lied to by the administration -- demoted and ostracized by the coach that refuses to recruit. That is why he said he almost left before this past season.-----All that being said---they are now simply WHO'S.

It's not really about them any more...Why are we pointing at any of 'thems' that left .

It's more how good talent didn't thrive here--- had to leave. Tubby didn't want them on the team, never mind their dad. That's what it looks like anyway.

Because if he did want that caliber of player, he wouldn't be going after JUCOs and D2s.

the end.

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

(04-10-2017 06:10 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

Bye! Drops the mic!!!!!!! Geeezze!

(04-10-2017 06:10 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

We'll see... I will be happy as hell to be wrong. FACT.

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

I agree 100%

(04-10-2017 06:12 PM)Steve davis Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:10 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

Bye! Drops the mic!!!!!!! Geeezze!

And that will not be good!

(04-10-2017 06:14 PM)Steve davis Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:12 PM)Steve davis Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:10 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

Bye! Drops the mic!!!!!!! Geeezze!

And that will not be good!

Heck no it won't as we'll be starting over... again!

(04-10-2017 06:09 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:06 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:46 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  Things ain't looking good, but after hearing all the junk today, I wish the Lawsons would have just followed Pastner, we would have been better off in the long run. Why in the hell wouldn't you leave? Guess he didn't want DL to sit out a year thinking he could come back and be a first rounder, guess that didn't work out. I guess I am changing my mind on this one and showing a little support for Tubby, do you realize how damn hard it has to be to reach players that don't even want to be here? If they were as good as they think they are, they wouldn't need an all-star surrounding cast just to be respectable. I'd rather watch Omar Sneed and Jermaine "broken back" Ousley out there hustlin than the Lawsons at this point, maybe they weren't as talented but they were tough. It will all be on Tubby from here on, but I just can't put this one all on him after Pastners last few years, the transfer thing is ingrained into the program right now, a clean slate might be what it takes to put a stop to it. He will have 100% his recruits the next two years and thats what I will judge him on, the end results over the next 2 seasons. Blast Away

In two years, this regime very well could be over.

Sadly so will the program.

(04-10-2017 06:03 PM)Hoots Wrote:  Transferring to Kansas is a "sexy" move more than anything. What difference it will make in the long term of their careers remains to be seen, but I'd be shocked if anything major comes of it. I don't wish them any ill will, and I'll be paying attention, but whatever happens happens.

Well, for starters they will probably get to play in the NCAA tournament and have a good chance to see the second weekend.

(04-10-2017 07:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:03 PM)Hoots Wrote:  Transferring to Kansas is a "sexy" move more than anything. What difference it will make in the long term of their careers remains to be seen, but I'd be shocked if anything major comes of it. I don't wish them any ill will, and I'll be paying attention, but whatever happens happens.

Well, for starters they will probably get to play in the NCAA tournament and have a good chance to see the second weekend.

Well, that's far beyond where Pastner took the team. Couldn't extend beyond the 1st round and received a huge payday for consecutive seasons of mediocrity.

(04-10-2017 07:18 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 07:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:03 PM)Hoots Wrote:  Transferring to Kansas is a "sexy" move more than anything. What difference it will make in the long term of their careers remains to be seen, but I'd be shocked if anything major comes of it. I don't wish them any ill will, and I'll be paying attention, but whatever happens happens.

Well, for starters they will probably get to play in the NCAA tournament and have a good chance to see the second weekend.

Well, that's far beyond where Pastner took the team. Couldn't extend beyond the 1st round and received a huge payday for consecutive seasons of mediocrity.

Pastner turned out to be a bad hire.

Tubby waited until year 2 to burn the program to the ground.

Horrible time to be a Tiger bb fan.

3 freshmen and a boatload of late period Jucos? WTF kind of rebuild is that?

I suppose all the planets could align and we could make the NCAA tournament next year but the more likely scenario is another shitshow.

(04-10-2017 07:32 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 07:18 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 07:09 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:03 PM)Hoots Wrote:  Transferring to Kansas is a "sexy" move more than anything. What difference it will make in the long term of their careers remains to be seen, but I'd be shocked if anything major comes of it. I don't wish them any ill will, and I'll be paying attention, but whatever happens happens.

Well, for starters they will probably get to play in the NCAA tournament and have a good chance to see the second weekend.

Well, that's far beyond where Pastner took the team. Couldn't extend beyond the 1st round and received a huge payday for consecutive seasons of mediocrity.

Pastner turned out to be a bad hire.

Tubby waited until year 2 to burn the program to the ground.

Horrible time to be a Tiger bb fan.

3 freshmen and a boatload of late period Jucos? WTF kind of rebuild is that?

I suppose all the planets could align and we could make the NCAA tournament next year but the more likely scenario is another shitshow.

All the former players are asking everyone to give Tubby a chance.