all I am going to say is it's simple posturing via chest thumping....

well, to expand upon.....as long as the USD remains the global ruler, it will always be, "no worries mate" with the big boys....

hell, they own over 2T of our debt....it's a simple 'saving face/showing strength' move....

Someone needs to give Kim Jong Dunce an ultimatum to either go into exile or go into permanent sleep.

(04-10-2017 05:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:29 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 04:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 03:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  They are there to keep North Koreans from fleeing the country.

My guess too. Dressed up for public consumption as standing up to the great satan, the US. But instead to keep their place from being overrun.

If that is the case, then the ChiComs are suspecting some action against NK.

I tend to agree that directed strikes with cruise missiles and B-2 bombers, will pretty much destroy NK's war capabilities. And the million land mines in the demilitarized zone will slow a land invasion of the South.

I expect a coup.

Yup.

Then when what "order" they have over there breaks down completely they're going to have millions making a run for the tall grass. No idea about how the border with PRC compares to the zone between the Koreas, Land mines etc., but that is one looooong stretch of mileage to cover, even with 150k troops. I'm betting fat boys days are numbered. What a relief that would be for the citizens. Finally.

(04-10-2017 06:05 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:29 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 04:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 03:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  They are there to keep North Koreans from fleeing the country.

My guess too. Dressed up for public consumption as standing up to the great satan, the US. But instead to keep their place from being overrun.

If that is the case, then the ChiComs are suspecting some action against NK.

I tend to agree that directed strikes with cruise missiles and B-2 bombers, will pretty much destroy NK's war capabilities. And the million land mines in the demilitarized zone will slow a land invasion of the South.

I expect a coup.

Yup.

Then when what "order" they have over there breaks down completely they're going to have millions making a run for the tall grass. No idea about how the border with PRC compares to the zone between the Koreas, Land mines etc., but that is one looooong stretch of mileage to cover, even with 150k troops. I'm betting fat boys days are numbered. What a relief that would be for the citizens. Finally.

When a population doesn't know anything about what's outside the fence everything they know has been brainwashed into their heads, they'll fight to the last man. To them the US is the boogeyman not Fatboy. To them Fat Boy Kim is what Oblunder is to Libturds. They see no wrong in the boy/man.

(04-10-2017 06:13 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:05 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:29 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 04:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  My guess too. Dressed up for public consumption as standing up to the great satan, the US. But instead to keep their place from being overrun.

If that is the case, then the ChiComs are suspecting some action against NK.

I tend to agree that directed strikes with cruise missiles and B-2 bombers, will pretty much destroy NK's war capabilities. And the million land mines in the demilitarized zone will slow a land invasion of the South.

I expect a coup.

Yup.

Then when what "order" they have over there breaks down completely they're going to have millions making a run for the tall grass. No idea about how the border with PRC compares to the zone between the Koreas, Land mines etc., but that is one looooong stretch of mileage to cover, even with 150k troops. I'm betting fat boys days are numbered. What a relief that would be for the citizens. Finally.

When a population doesn't know anything about what's outside the fence everything they know has been brainwashed into their heads, they'll fight to the last man. To them the US is the boogeyman not Fatboy. To them Fat Boy Kim is what Oblunder is to Libturds. They see no wrong in the boy/man.

I'm sure there's some, if not a lot of that. But I can't help but believe that by now, in this day and age, that many more of them know better what the rest of the world, at least parts of it, actually look like.

That and starvation can be a pretty strong motivator.

North Korea is not North America there aren't Apple stores all over where they can buy the latest cellular phone. They don't know anything as the government has them blind folded to the max.

I guess we can put this in the non-actionable information category.

IMO what you are seeing out of our military and the People's Liberation Army is a direct result of the meeting last week. The fat man with a bad haircut has ceased to be of any usefulness to the PRC and with his various actions has become a liability. I'm betting that the Vinson battlegroup isn't the only military buildup we are going to see on our side as we are going to help keep South Korea safe while the PRC does their own version of regime change.

(04-10-2017 06:13 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:05 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:45 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 05:29 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 04:34 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  My guess too. Dressed up for public consumption as standing up to the great satan, the US. But instead to keep their place from being overrun.

If that is the case, then the ChiComs are suspecting some action against NK.

I tend to agree that directed strikes with cruise missiles and B-2 bombers, will pretty much destroy NK's war capabilities. And the million land mines in the demilitarized zone will slow a land invasion of the South.

I expect a coup.

Yup.

Then when what "order" they have over there breaks down completely they're going to have millions making a run for the tall grass. No idea about how the border with PRC compares to the zone between the Koreas, Land mines etc., but that is one looooong stretch of mileage to cover, even with 150k troops. I'm betting fat boys days are numbered. What a relief that would be for the citizens. Finally.

When a population doesn't know anything about what's outside the fence everything they know has been brainwashed into their heads, they'll fight to the last man. To them the US is the boogeyman not Fatboy. To them Fat Boy Kim is what Oblunder is to Libturds. They see no wrong in the boy/man.

hell, that sounds like many others in every country

sorry.....couldn't resist....

(04-10-2017 03:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I doubt that it's to intimidate the fat boy. They are flexing their muscles against the US to make them think twice about attacking their fat boy. If we do get into a war with Russia and China because of their surrogates it will be a conventional war at first and escalate to the giant mushroom ones.

Are you in good standing with the Lord? We might just find out if those that don't believe will be right that there's no God. What a risk for them. Not me, I believe that there is God and I've been forgiven.

It's what turned the tide in the Korean war, so yes, its a message to the US.

(04-10-2017 06:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  IMO what you are seeing out of our military and the People's Liberation Army is a direct result of the meeting last week. The fat man with a bad haircut has ceased to be of any usefulness to the PRC and with his various actions has become a liability. I'm betting that the Vinson battlegroup isn't the only military buildup we are going to see on our side as we are going to help keep South Korea safe while the PRC does their own version of regime change.

Agree Kap. This is no coincidence. I gosh dum guarantee this was part of the discussions between the two powers last week. The Kim Dong Dun era is nearing an end.

(04-10-2017 06:58 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 03:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I doubt that it's to intimidate the fat boy. They are flexing their muscles against the US to make them think twice about attacking their fat boy. If we do get into a war with Russia and China because of their surrogates it will be a conventional war at first and escalate to the giant mushroom ones.

Are you in good standing with the Lord? We might just find out if those that don't believe will be right that there's no God. What a risk for them. Not me, I believe that there is God and I've been forgiven.

It's what turned the tide in the Korean war, so yes, its a message to the US.

I don't think so. The dynamics involved 67 years ago are much, much different than they are today. Mao was a hard-core communist and they along with the Soviets were fighting an ideological war with the west. Now the hermit kingdom isn't a battleground, it's a liability. Three of China's top five trading partners are the US, Japan, and South Korea and pissing them off by backing North Korea is a losing proposition.

(04-10-2017 04:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 03:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  They are there to keep North Koreans from fleeing the country.

You hope.

They are medical units there for a humanitarian crisis.

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EDIT: Anyone notice that Trump is wearing "red" tie and The First Lady a red dress contrasting with Chinese President and First Lady wearing blue?

(04-10-2017 07:12 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:51 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  IMO what you are seeing out of our military and the People's Liberation Army is a direct result of the meeting last week. The fat man with a bad haircut has ceased to be of any usefulness to the PRC and with his various actions has become a liability. I'm betting that the Vinson battlegroup isn't the only military buildup we are going to see on our side as we are going to help keep South Korea safe while the PRC does their own version of regime change.

Agree Kap. This is no coincidence. I gosh dum guarantee this was part of the discussions between the two powers last week. The Kim Dong Dun era is nearing an end.

And get ready for a shift in Iran next.

This is going to end up being nothing.

(04-10-2017 07:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:58 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 03:39 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I doubt that it's to intimidate the fat boy. They are flexing their muscles against the US to make them think twice about attacking their fat boy. If we do get into a war with Russia and China because of their surrogates it will be a conventional war at first and escalate to the giant mushroom ones.

Are you in good standing with the Lord? We might just find out if those that don't believe will be right that there's no God. What a risk for them. Not me, I believe that there is God and I've been forgiven.

It's what turned the tide in the Korean war, so yes, its a message to the US.

I don't think so. The dynamics involved 67 years ago are much, much different than they are today. Mao was a hard-core communist and they along with the Soviets were fighting an ideological war with the west. Now the hermit kingdom isn't a battleground, it's a liability. Three of China's top five trading partners are the US, Japan, and South Korea and pissing them off by backing North Korea is a losing proposition.

Oh, I'm not saying they would pour over the border. I'm saying it would be a statement aimed at us.

I'll just share this again.

(04-10-2017 06:25 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  North Korea is not North America there aren't Apple stores all over where they can buy the latest cellular phone. They don't know anything as the government has them blind folded to the max.

I don't disagree with anything you've said, only differ a tad.

There's plenty of "hackers" (ohhh scary word if you're podesta or the cank) over there too.

If that's the case, then there's plenty of others that actually know what the f%^& is up. That's all.

I know it's an incredible 1920's era shithole, just saying if given the chance, these people might well be turned.

We all yearn to be free, I believe that 110%.